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That ominous image up there is the cover of this month's NRA magazine. The magazine is called America's First Freedom, which, if it's referring to owning guns, is just wrong because of the word "second" in the Second Amendment. The article is "The Most Dangerous 700 Days America Has Ever Faced."
You might think, "Well, surely that's referring to a period of time right after we declared independence and fought the Revolutionary War." Or perhaps, "Oh, of course, it's an article about the most violent part of the Civil War." Or "Indeed, the time right after Pearl Harbor was quite trying for our nation." Maybe even "Gosh, I knew things were bad after 9/11, but I didn't realize it was the most dangerous time." Yes, yes, you might try each of those, but, fuck you, you unarmed traitor. That shit is happening now.
Those 700 days (give or take) encompass the last two years of President Barack Obama's term in office post-2014 midterms. Let the motherfucker with the combover of doom, Wayne LaPierre, lay it on the line for you: "If Obama and his allies succeed in their 'transformation' over the next two years, the America we know and love may cease to exist." Why? Because he's gonna take away the guns. The guns, goddamnit. Obama's coming after them, even though, as LaPierre admits, in the last six years, "the Second Amendment is the only freedom that has expanded while others have retreated."
Don't you get it? Obama's been playing the long game. He put on hold all his devious machinations to walk into your home and rip the rifle from you cold, dead hand. Sure, he's never actually talked about doing that or done anything at all other than suggest a few minor regulations that wouldn't affect the vast majority of gun owners. And, even though the NRA was sure that, right after his reelection, Obama was going to unleash the goons, no goons have appeared. But, one supposes, he was waiting until after he lost huge in the midterms. He has no more elections to worry about, they say. So, fuck it, let's get the gun melter going 24/7.
Of course, the whole thing is just a ploy to get you to send more hard-earned money to the NRA (motto: "LaPierre's Rogaine expenses are driving us into the ground" . It even gives you a pat on the back, faithful NRA members: "In the end, we're the only ones on which freedom can truly count." Which, if you think about the implications of the sentence, is a pretty fuckin' scary thing to say.
"Over the next 700 days, Barack Obama and his gun-hating, freedom-fearing, big-government allies can make profound, toxic, and permanent changes to our country," LaPierre concludes with absolutely no evidence at all (seriously, there's not one fact against Obama in the entire article).
But give the NRA your cash, you dumb yokels, you credulous hicks. It's not like you will actually take a few minutes to see who the liars are.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2015/01/according-to-nra-were-screwedright-now.html
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)And they lie like nobody ever before, maybe televangelists, to raise money
Pure, disgusting, puke ...
villager
(26,001 posts)It was quite hilarious to see the rhetorical cartwheels they'd turn in explaining how by supporting a clearly rightwing political organization, they weren't, you know, actually supporting a clearly rightwing political organization.
srican69
(1,426 posts)"From my cold dead hands"
villager
(26,001 posts)"semi-automatic" and "automatic," if anyone makes the slightest rhetorical stumble while talking about the latest group of dead victims.
That, or snickering more if anyone should misstate the measurements or millimeters of the ammo used....
Skittles
(153,184 posts)f*** them all
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)By my count, three who consistently imply a defense of the NRA without directly stating as much.
One of whom often uses the ploy of suggesting that any criticism of the organization is a result of fearing it; and on more than one occasion, directly defended the NRA's lobbying efforts to prevent the CDC from researching gun violence after the agency validated an independent study which itself, invalidated certain branding aspects the NRA holds as sacrosanct.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)in a post replying to one of my posts (where the phrase "think of the children" was not used) in a subthread there...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children
Authors John Meany and Kate Shuster wrote in their 2002 book Art, Argument, and Advocacy: Mastering Parliamentary Debate that usage of the phrase "Think of the children" in debate was a type of logical fallacy. They identified this as a form of an appeal to emotion. The authors explained that the debater will utilize the phrase in an effort to emotionally sway members of the listening public instead of engaging in logical discussion. Meany and Shuster gave as an example: "I know this national missile defense plan has its detractors, but wont someone please think of the children?" The assessment that use of the exhortation: "Think of the children" is a type of appeal to emotion was echoed by Margie Borschke in an article for the journal, Media International Australia incorporating Culture and Policy. Borschke went on to call this methodology a tactic of rhetoric.
Ethicist Jack Marshall described "Think of the children!" as a tactic used in an attempt to cease back-and-forth discussion by invoking a powerful argument. According to Marshall, the strategy proved useful due to its success at stopping individuals from engaging in rationality and reason. He called this plan an unethical manner of obfuscating debate by misdirecting empathy towards another source which may not have been the focus of the original argument. He wrote that usage of the phrase had positive intent but had a tendency to become irrational when used repeatedly by both sides in a dispute. Marshall concluded that referring to the phrase had the impact of manipulating a simple act of following regulations into a confusing ethical quandary. He cautioned that society should not fall into the mindset that citing "Think of the children!" had the ability to upstage all other morals and standards in civilization....
...Cory Doctorow wrote in a 2011 article for Make magazine that the phrase "Wont someone think of the children?!" was used by irrational individuals to support arguments about the dangers to youth of four types of groups on the Internet. These four groups, collectively referred to as "Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse" included: "pirates", terrorists, organized crime, and child pornographers. He wrote that use of the phrase in such a manner was done with the intent of gagging additional discussion on the merits of the underlying issues and stopping rational analysis. Doctorow observed that these tactics were often used during the burgeoning period when society was determining the proper approach to legal aspects of computing.
And since your sort are fond of employing cartoons in discussions like these:
Classy, like always
villager
(26,001 posts)A perfect apologist post!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)That is part of the reason (aside from their obvious shilling for the GOP), I despise
them as much as I despise dishonest gun prohibtionists...
villager
(26,001 posts)No surprises there -- but glad to here you're halfway toward sanity!
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)One that speaks poorly of both camps, regardless of how loudly the members of one
or the other proclaim their moral superiority...
villager
(26,001 posts)...in the same manner you claim to be against.
When it suits you.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...all provided by fellow DUers.
The disinterested reader will find plenty of fear, hatred and otherizing for their perusal
at the following link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=19281
Last edited Tue Oct 2, 2012,
What are your nominations for words or phrases used by the pro-control side?
I'll start this off with one of my favorites: "...Awash in guns."
Then, there's the ever-popular reposts of cartoons, most of which are noted approvingly:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022188101
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1262421
And we can't forget many, many of the posts in the gun control safe haven:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1262
Forgive me for not finding your ire very compelling...
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)Got it.
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)...and the things *you* promulgate:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=160106
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1262421
friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)Skittles
(153,184 posts)who else would buy such garbage?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Is that one of their great fears is gun registration. Because some future evil government will use those registration lists to go seize everyone's guns.
And so they join the NRA. Providing a convenient list of people who have guns. As if that future evil government won't be able to find the NRA's membership list, and use that to go seize everyone's guns.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)Seems the "grabbers" are just out to make a buck and what they really, really, want to do is go after the holy grail of registration.
The say how some poor lady is really more evil than Ted Nugent.
beevul
(12,194 posts)The things one must turn a blind eye to, to utter such utterances.
Lets have a look at them:
Mrs Monsanto:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/launch-of-new-public-relations-agency-voxpop-public-relations-llc-shannon-troughton-named-40-under-40-by-pr-week-65339842.html
Mrs. Second amendment:
Here she is claiming that "you know first of all, were not anti-gun, we support the second amendment...":
Yet their actions just don't match the words coming out of her lying mouth:
http://momsdemandaction.org/in-the-news/moms-demand-action-deeply-disappointed-federal-judges-decision-overturning-chicagos-citywide-ban-gun-dealerships/
And lets not forget, last but not least, that her org along with the brady bunch and VPC attempted to suppress a fundraiser for Democrats:
...In a letter sent to Cindy Horn on Wednesday afternoon, the groups urged her to cancel the fundraiser, or, in the alternative, that they instead raise funds for Senate candidates in tough races who voted for the background checks, including Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) and Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.).
The groups, including Women Against Gun Violence, the California Chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the Violence Prevention Coalition and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, wrote to Horn that when Senators from far-flung places come to California to fuel their campaigns, we hope that you will remind them that youre not their personal ATM. You have a right to ask why they deserve their support...
...The groups asked in their letter, Is Democrat merely a box on a ballot, to be checked at any cost?
http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/gun-control-groups-urge-cancellation-of-hollywood-fundraiser-for-mark-begich-and-mark-pryor-1201141065/
The poor poor dear.
safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)the Rude Pundit's story on the NRA, unless you want to comment on the story's view President.
Perhaps she might be as guilty as the NRA is to be a whore to the fire arms industry. Me, I see little difference and can't condemn one with out the other. I try to keep both eyes open.
beevul
(12,194 posts)Nobody who is successful at "keeping both eyes open", would call Shannon watts "some poor lady", after everything that's been posted about her and her groups actions.
"Me, I see little difference and can't condemn one with out the other."
Yeah, you can't condemn one without the other to such a degree that you characterized her as "some poor lady.
Those are not the actions of someone that "tries to keep both eyes open", but of an ideologue.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)to the suspected domestic terrorist list.
For all we know they've been flagged 100's or thousands of times already for ammo/gun/magazine ect...purchases. If only they'd known to pay with cash while wearing a hat.
benz380
(534 posts)Putting Obama's picture on the front puts these gun owners in a panic. More panic sells more guns.
More guns sold means more ads.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,654 posts)"If Obama and his allies succeed in their 'transformation' over the next two years, the America we know and love may cease to exist."
And we'd all be better off. Too bad it's unrealistic.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)How is it they want us to prepare for the 700 most dangerous days America has ever faced? Would it perchance involve buying more guns? I'm just guessing.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Johonny
(20,880 posts)that has little to no interest in gun owners freedom, safety or apparently sanity.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Maybe any kind of traffic, even internal, to the local gunner group triggers the ads?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)ads with those keywords will appear in the space reserved for the ads. The sponsor doesn't pick the site, the internet user's cache picks the sponsor.
petronius
(26,603 posts)For example, I just switched browsers and clicked around DU: on this thread (but not elsewhere) I got NRA ads; on a thread from Huff Post I got a Post Office ad; on a thread about Pat Robertson I got religion-focused ads.
Of course, that was the first time I've used that browser since clearing everything, and only at this site, so there was no history in my cookies and cache. Perhaps after a day's worth of activity the ads would be more targeted to my habits.
Still, it seems like the more DUers post about the NRA or any other topic, the more those specific ads will appear...
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)is collectively dumber than a box of rocks but this is what . . . the how many nth time that [insert name of Democratic president here] is coming for their guns? It hasn't happened and given the love of guns in this country, won't happen in the foreseeable future. But, damn, every time Pepe LaPierre or one of his coterie hint that it's really and truly, for sure this time, cross our hearts and hope to die, abso-damn-lutely gonna happen, the bless their hearts membership of the NRA start screaming. Talk about the boy who cried wolf.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I have never understood the "Obama is coming for your guns" hysteria. He has been good to gun owners.
tblue37
(65,483 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)how the Salvadoran war in the 80s was about to come to our shopping malls a la "Red Dawn" ANY DAY NOW PREPARE YOURSELVES THE HUN IS AT THE GATE BOOLA BOOLA BOOLA
everyone bemoaning that we're a new Rome is partly guilty of this too, I might add: we've been wringing our hands that we're going to lose everything and barbarian invaders and feral locals will roam our once-proud streets since the friggin' Boer War
billh58
(6,635 posts)right-wing playbook "dictator" message with an aim towards instilling fear in their ignorant flock going into 2016:
The right-wing extremist presidential pretenders are spreading the exact same message with the financial aid of the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)RKBA http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172160094
GCRA http://www.democraticunderground.com/12627988
...and..... K&R
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)used to be locked up in places with padded rooms and tall walls with razor wire at the top.
underpants
(182,868 posts)The NRA is the marketing dept for the gun makers.
TRoN33
(769 posts)Bookmarked so I can defaced the frontpage of that magazine.
hack89
(39,171 posts)it is amazing every gun owner doesn't realize that. No one is coming to take away guns.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and it has been a very successful/lucrative one...
Right on cue, you can expect to see these stories every financial quarter...
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)The days, weeks, and years after sandy hook were much worse than now. I don't think 2A progressives are going to have to sweat out the next 700 days.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)They only have two years left to milk their anti-Obama fearmongering...