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nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 02:48 AM Jan 2015

Meet the people that make iPhones and iPads

It took the BBC to report this, might cost US Media advertising dollars...



BBC Panorama secret filming inside Apple factory
Watch undercover filming at an Apple factory in Shanghai showing exhausted workers


UK Telegraph 19 Dec 2014

The BBC's Panorama programme sent undercover reporters to Apple's Pegatron factories on the outskirts of Shanghai, where it claims to have uncovered poor treatment of workers and a breach of standards on workers' hours.

The BBC report, broadcast on Thursday, alleged that workers fell asleep during 12 hour shifts on the iPhone 6 production line and were made to work 18 days in a row after repeatedly being denied requests for a day off.


A worker at her post in a Chinese iPhone factory Screen Cap/BBC Panorama

Apple senior vice president of operations Jeff Williams has responded to the allegations in an email to staff, saying both himself and the chief executive Tim Cook were "deeply offended by the suggestion that Apple would break a promise to the workers in our supply chain or mislead our customers in any way".

...Apple employs around 1,400 manufacturing workers in China...
MORE: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/11303772/BBC-Panorama-secret-filming-inside-Apple-factory.html

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Apple 'failing to protect Chinese factory workers'
By Richard Bilton BBC Panorama Decenber 2014

Poor treatment of workers in Chinese factories which make Apple products has been discovered by an undercover BBC Panorama investigation.

Filming on an iPhone 6 production line showed Apple's promises to protect workers were routinely broken.

It found standards on workers' hours, ID cards, dormitories, work meetings and juvenile workers were being breached at the Pegatron factories.

Apple said it strongly disagreed with the programme's conclusions.

Exhausted workers were filmed falling asleep on their 12-hour shifts at the Pegatron factories on the outskirts of Shanghai...
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-30532463



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Apple iPhone sales trample expectations as profit sets global record
By Christina Farr Tue Jan 27, 2015 Reuters


An iPhone 6 phone is seen on display at the Fifth Avenue Apple store on the first day of sales
in Manhattan, NY September 19, 2014. Credit: Reuters/Adrees Latif


Apple Inc quarterly results smashed Wall Street expectations with record sales of big-screen iPhones in the holiday shopping season and a 70 percent rise in China sales, powering the company to the largest profit in corporate history.

The company sold 74.5 million iPhones in its fiscal first quarter ended Dec. 27, while many analysts had expected fewer than 70 million. Revenue rose to $74.6 billion from $57.6 billion a year earlier.

Profit of $18 billion was the biggest ever reported by a public company, worldwide, according to S&P analyst Howard Silverblatt. Apple's cash pile is now $178 billion, enough to buy IBM (IBM.N) or the equivalent to $556 for every American.

Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook said the Cupertino, California-based company would release its next product, the Apple Watch, in April...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/27/us-apple-results-idUSKBN0L02QG20150127

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Apple Sold 30,000 iPhones An Hour Last Quarter, Scored Record Profits
NPR.org 1/28/2015

Sales of Apple's larger iPhone 6 and 6 Plus hit one out of the ballpark last quarter, reports NPR's Laura Sydell...
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2015/01/28/382032411/apple-sold-30-000-iphones-an-hour-last-quarter-scored-record-profits

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How Does Apple Avoid Taxes?
5/28/13 Forbes.com



Apple set up some Irish subsidiaries a mere four years after it was founded. Foreign sales, which account for 60% of Apple’s profits, are routed through these Irish subsidiaries and taxed nowhere. How is this possible, when the intellectual property that supports the value of Apple’s products is in the United States?

Apple has an Irish holding company with no operations or employees at the top of its foreign operations. This company also serves as a group finance company. Apple Inc., the U.S. parent of the whole group, pays U.S. tax on the investment earnings of this company. Otherwise, the holding company pays no tax to any government, and has not paid tax for five years. It claims tax residence nowhere.

Beneath the holding company is an Irish principal company that holds the contracts with Apple’s Chinese contract manufacturers and owns the inventory they produce. It also claims tax residence nowhere, despite having paid some tax to Ireland in recent years, but at rate far below the statutory rate. It and another Apple operating affiliate share the foreign rights to Apple’s U.S. based technology...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/leesheppard/2013/05/28/how-does-apple-avoid-taxes/

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Chinese Workers Making iPhones Work 11-Hour Shifts, 6 Days A Week, For $1.50 Per Hour
Kevin Smith 7/29/13 Business Insider

Individuals assembling Apple's iPhones in China allegedly work long hours for low pay. A new report by China Labor Watch, a labor rights organization gives specific details of the workers schedules.
Download Report (PDF) http://www.chinalaborwatch.org/pdf/apple_s_unkept_promises.pdf

Workers schedules are set at six days a week, with 11-hour shifts, 20 minutes of which is unpaid. The remainder of the shift is paid at a rate of $1.50 and hour which equals $268 per month before overtime...
http://www.businessinsider.com/china-labor-watch-apple-iphone-workers-2013-7

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$18 Billion profit, no taxes and $1.50/hr labor

"Slavery never ended, it just shifted geographically"- Internet comment

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Meet the people that make iPhones and iPads (Original Post) nationalize the fed Jan 2015 OP
K&R ND-Dem Jan 2015 #1
If you don't want an iPhone or an iPad, don't buy one. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #2
Out of sight... 2naSalit Jan 2015 #3
China -- a country we don't have a free trade agreement with, and so no framework Recursion Jan 2015 #4
+1...nt SidDithers Jan 2015 #15
Where are the new Motorola Droids being manufactured? Asia. And Samsung? China. pnwmom Jan 2015 #5
Lets face it, we are all guilty AZ Progressive Jan 2015 #6
Very true davidpdx Jan 2015 #8
I generally agree, but I eat lots of meat that all comes from my own State, mostly from small farms Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #18
This has been going on for a long while and I'm a bit surprised it has continued davidpdx Jan 2015 #7
The crazy thing is that IPhones are not even cheap yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #9
Don't read this then... Agschmid Jan 2015 #12
Holy crap! I didn't take your advice. Lol. yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #19
I believe they are even more expensive here in Korea because of the taxes and tariffs davidpdx Feb 2015 #20
Since most devices use the same suppliers and sourcers--It's all technology, not just Apple. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2015 #10
18 billion, that's what it looks like. lonestarnot Jan 2015 #11
And with every new 'free trade' agreement, it will only get worse. nt. polly7 Jan 2015 #13
Well, no, the problem here is we don't have an FTA with China Recursion Feb 2015 #21
I'm talking about any and every area of the world where people are poor, vulnerable and polly7 Feb 2015 #22
+ 8 billion nationalize the fed Feb 2015 #23
And how 'bout that computer you're typing on?... SidDithers Jan 2015 #14
...and the clothes in your closet, and the veggies in your fridge bhikkhu Jan 2015 #16
once we buy this garbage we don't own it olddots Jan 2015 #17
You should watch this and read the book "Factory Girls" Bonobo Feb 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author JDDavis Feb 2015 #25

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
3. Out of sight...
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 03:00 AM
Jan 2015

out of mind as the saying goes. Meanwhile most of us continue to feed the beast that is eating us alive.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. China -- a country we don't have a free trade agreement with, and so no framework
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 03:17 AM
Jan 2015

in which to hold them to account for labor standards.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
6. Lets face it, we are all guilty
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 04:29 AM
Jan 2015

The only way you can be an American and not have your hands dirty is if you only wear second hand clothing, you don't eat any meat (practically a vegan), and you don't buy any electronics. Even then, your tax money goes to pay for the military industrial complex that is causing chaos, ruin and destruction in other countries. So really there's no way to be an American and not be guilty.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. Very true
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 04:37 AM
Jan 2015

The computer I am typing on was made in China (even though it is a US brand), my LG smartphone was made there as well even though it is sold by a Korean company, the shirts I bought last year were made in several different countries and sold in the US.

It is virtually impossible to buy much unless and know where everything came from.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. I generally agree, but I eat lots of meat that all comes from my own State, mostly from small farms
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jan 2015

withing a few miles of here. Not sure how being a vegan would do anything but take business away from people whose names I know.....on the other hand tons of produce comes from China, one could have a vegan diet of food all imported from China.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
7. This has been going on for a long while and I'm a bit surprised it has continued
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 04:34 AM
Jan 2015

Apparently no matter how well this is publicized and no matter how many times Apple and China are caught doing it, they are going to continue to sweep it under the carpet.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
9. The crazy thing is that IPhones are not even cheap
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jan 2015

I have an IPhone 6 and paid 219 for it with contract. Without contract it is around 600 dollars. They can't even pay a decent wage or at least give regular hours and two days off a week? Typically the reason things are made in China is because they are cheap! Nothing cheap about Apple products. Apple needs to clean this up. The workers should be treated better.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
12. Don't read this then...
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jan 2015
Apple spends $200 to $247 in parts and labor to build an iPhone 6, a teardown analysis of the device due to be released later today shows.

For the larger iPhone 6 Plus, the costs begin at $216 for the starting model and go as high as $263 for the 128 gigabyte model. The estimates by the research firm IHS, shared exclusively with Re/code and CNBC* ahead of release, include the cost of labor associated with assembly as between $4 and $4.50 for each device.

iPhone 6 models sell for between $649 and $849 without a contract. The iPhone 6 Plus models with the larger display sell for $749 and $949 without a contract.

Apple charges $100 to $200 more for iPhone models with higher memory capacity. But Apple’s cost for the additional memory is about $47 more for the 128GB versions than for the 16GB versions.


http://recode.net/2014/09/23/teardown-shows-apples-iphone-6-cost-at-least-200-to-build/

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. I believe they are even more expensive here in Korea because of the taxes and tariffs
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:38 AM
Feb 2015

I don't know if you ever heard about the suicide nets around the buildings at some of the factories. They had to put up these nets because workers were jumping off the building to kill themselves. This was awhile back, but a horrendous. I agree with what you said though.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. Well, no, the problem here is we don't have an FTA with China
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 12:43 AM
Feb 2015

And China will never agree to one because it would let AFL sue them for preventing their workers from organizing, just like the dozens of times AFL sued Mexico under NAFTA.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
22. I'm talking about any and every area of the world where people are poor, vulnerable and
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 05:54 AM
Feb 2015

huge corporations move in with their new abilities to sue the host gov't, ignore environmental laws and destroy lives, as they did with Mexican farmers and NAFTA.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
14. And how 'bout that computer you're typing on?...
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:29 AM
Jan 2015

Nothing like a bit of hypocrisy in the morning, eh?

And what about the solaryhydrocan panels you used to talk so much about? They're made where? Under what conditions?

GMAFB.

Sid

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
16. ...and the clothes in your closet, and the veggies in your fridge
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jan 2015

and so forth. Capitalism has its disadvantages on the bottom end, as we all know here. I don't think its fair to target one company, when there is no "fair wage" competitor. Apple has, at least, set standards and made demands for better working conditions for its suppliers and contractors.

Response to Bonobo (Reply #24)

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