Evo Morales (Bolivia President), there's a spot reserved for you under the DU bus.

[MattSh]

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The Russian channel RT has become the voice of the people and the revolutionaries, it deserves admiration, Bolivian President Evo Morales recently remarked in response to statements made by the US Broadcasting Board of Governors' CEO Andrew Lack, who had named the channel, along with Islamic State militants, as the main challenge facing his agency.

RT Under Attack for Challenging US Media’s Foreign Policy Narrative

MOSCOW, January 30 (Sputnik) – Bolivian President Morales has called the Russian television channel RT the voice of revolutionaries and of the peoples of the world, and stated that it deserves admiration.

"When the media turns into the voice of the people, especially in the voice of revolutionaries, there are those people and the media, who will judge them and falsify the truth," Morales told RT. "This media is the voice of the developing countries, the voice of the peoples of the world, and it deserves our admiration."

Despite smear campaigns, misrepresentation of facts, and outright lies, such media should continue their work to give the microphone to the peoples of the world, added the Bolivian head of state.


Complete story at - http://sputniknews.com/world/20150130/1017540252.html

[FSogol]

1. It is Evo Morales, not Eva

[polly7]

3. Thankfully, Evo Morales, like many DU'ers couldn't care less ....

I'm always amazed here at people trying so hard to censor the reading material and thoughts of others and who proclaim to know it all themselves, don't even realize they're operating in their own, custom-made little prisons. Reminds me of my mom ranting and raving about the dangers of the internet because 'you'll catch a virus from that thing!'. "Yes mom!" .............. "yes RT/AlJazeera/anything other but the MSM haters".

Good for him. Censorship sucks.

[Bluenorthwest]

10. So do you subscribe to lots of right wing, Republican publications? Watch tons of FoxNews?

Because RT has a strong anti gay bias, to put is kindly. So I have no need to read the point of view of bigots, I already know their point of view from their actions, which speak far louder than words.
You straight folks can go suck up that shit all day long, it is crafted for them, tailored to fit their prejudices. Enjoy your confirmation bias methods!!!!!

[polly7]

12. I don't subscribe to anything, but here. Is that right wing?

No, I don't watch Fox news AT ALL, but I've seen many reports from Fox sites posted here that I've been able to verify easily with others, just as I do with every article.

There are plenty of bigots championing your recommended MSM sites, what does that have to do with whether some straight fuck like me is able to decide for themselves what makes sense enough to take the time to look up and verify?

Enjoy your tries for censorship.

[Scootaloo]

27. Interesting

Polly complains about people trying to tell others what they can and can't read. You undeservedly call her a bigot for this, while yourself spewing hate against straight people.

[polly7]

56. Always ......... I know to expect the very same accusations every time.

It used to bother me, but as I know it's not the truth, it's just meaningless to me now.

[99Forever]

4. True dat.

And no shortage of DUers ready to toss everyone who dares not knuckle under to their demands.

[Adrahil]

47. I don't demand anything, but RT is Largely just Russia. Propaganda.

Of course, most "news" is propaganda, so pick your source.

[99Forever]

52. Says...

... people who don't like what it has to say.

With the crappy propaganda rags the USA has these days, pretending to be "journalism," seems a tad bit silly to be pointing fingers at ANY others.

[Adrahil]

53. Well, suit yourself....

...if you want to lap up the shit that Putin feeds you, be my guest. But I reserve the right to call you out on being foolish.

Just watch the "coverage" of the MH17 incident, and all is revealed. They're like Fox News with a Russian accent.

[99Forever]

55. I don't "lap up" anything from anybody.

What a obnoxiously rude fucking thing to say. I'm done with you.

[Adrahil]

59. You called RT "real news." That's all I have to say. n/t

[Fearless]

5. I read the first line and knew it was going to be unbiased

[polly7]

6. Why do you say that?

[Fearless]

20. You have a Russian news source citing a Russian news source talking about a Russian ally.

It's pretty clear.

[polly7]

21. I guess to anyone who's biased against both countries, it might be. nt.

[Fearless]

22. Patriotism is the idea that you're country is better

Than all others simply because you were born in it. -George Bernard Shaw

I don't play any favorites.

[polly7]

23. Me either. nt.

[MADem]

9. Ha--me too!

It serves Morales to keep USA at arms' length, but in actual fact he benefits from an easy if distant relationship with those devil Americans...and he knows it. We're one of his biggest trading partners, still...!

[IronLionZion]

7. Everyone in this world will eventually be tossed under DU's bus

until there's no one left.

[BeanMusical]

11. It sure looks like it.

[cheapdate]

18. "Left alone I hit myself with a stone"

Love that line. From the White Stripes, Icky Thump.

[zeemike]

8. I never thought I would live to see the day you had to watch Russian TV

to see the real news...but here we are.
And there are some, even here at DU that want to ban RT from being posted...shameful really but RT has become like Radio Free America because our media has become like Pravda.

[libodem]

14. I've noticed

The whisper campaign in videos and multi media. There is at least one hater in there.

[tritsofme]

25. Wow, I haven't seen a post this disconnected from reality in a long time.

Well done.

[uhnope]

43. +1. They're getting clinical. nt

[Adrahil]

48. If you consider RT "real news" then I have a bridge to sell you. n/t

[BeanMusical]

13. And his plane got grounded by the US.

That's pretty shitty but some think it's fine.

[FSogol]

29. That's a pretty crappy analysis of DU. Any evidence of this?

[Puglover]

30. ...

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10023172626#post29

[FSogol]

31. That is pretty crappy, but one poster's crap is hardly reflective of DU on whole.

[Puglover]

32. You are entirely right.

But that one really was rank and you asked for an example.

"Most of DU" was a tad hyperbolic.

[Scootaloo]

33. None that you won't dismiss entirely out of hand, obviously

If you've been around for over 22,000 posts and haven't noticed the racist trends in DU, then I have to just assume it's willful on your part.

[FSogol]

34. Yeah, I see rascist crap from time to time. That's hardly, "most of DU."

[Scootaloo]

35. "From time to time"?

It's there every time a new story about a black child being gunned down hits the headlines. it's there every time someone gets sniffy about the notion that "thug" is a dog whistle. It's there when Chelsea manning is mentioned. It's there when some asshole who happens to be an Arab or Muslim commits a crime, oh god is it there, then. it's all over the place whenever someone mentions the Redskins - or most recently, water-carrying for the blowhards who dumped beer on native kids watching a hockey game. I've seen DU'ers talk about how Romani people really are all theives and criminals, and defending Italian purges against their communities.

Look man, seriously? DU is slathered in bigotry. I'd love to name names, i have more than a few, but, oh dear, pointing out racists is worse than actually being one around here. So I would suggest just trying to be a little more aware and perceptive. Most racism is NOT so blatant as white hoods and burning crosses on someone's front lawn

[Ykcutnek]

37. Agreed. The 24/7 roast of our first African American president is a horrible trend.

Oh, wait.

[Adrahil]

49. I see racism here, sure, but I wouldn't call it a trend by any means. n/t

[dembotoz]

15. had a cheap radio shack short wave reciever

really a transistor radio that could get more stations

i liked to listen to the foreign services not so much that i believe them but that it
told me at least some of what was going on in the rest of the world

even back then i knew american news was lacking
i preferred bbc world service and radio deutchevele which is not in my spell check.

we can take the ramblings of rt with some grains of salt but they can alert us to the fact that there is something going on in places being covered
for that they are useful.

much of the us would be surprised to find out the world does not stop because of some damn football game(packer fan and yes i am bitter) on sunday

[pampango]

16. It is useful to know the Russian government's position on issues. RT never disagrees with that.

It is a good source of news as long as you understand its bias but you can say that about many media outlets. You know its stories will be anti-EU, anti-US and uncritical of Russian policy but it has good programs and takes a look at issues from a different perspective which is always valuable.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

50. I think there's a qualitative difference between RT and even most biased news outlets.

For most news organs, the agenda is "report the world as we see it". That "as we see it" covers a multitude of biases and sins, but they will at least generally aspire to tell the truth.

For RT reporting the news is at least partly means, not an end; the end is promoting Putin's policies.

[SidDithers]

17. ...

Sid

[struggle4progress]

19. The Soviet Union collapsed over twenty years ago. The current Russian Federation could hardly be

described as a revolutionary force in the world. "Russia Today" is a state-owned media outlet that provides material intended only to strengthen Russia's global position: there's no evidence that it supports (say) organization of workers or that it promotes any useful analysis of oligarchic power.

[MohRokTah]

24. .

[McCamy Taylor]

26. I refuse to equate "Russian" with "Bad" no matter which way the wind blows.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

51. How about "Current Russian government"? N.T.

[polly7]

39. Drone his ass? Sick, sick, sick. nt.

[Ykcutnek]

41. OK, then I'll mark you down as a vote for The Morales Hour on CNN.

[polly7]

42. I don't give a shit what you do.

Reminds me of the people calling for the ME to be turned to glass when invading Iraq.

Nice to have that kind of power, eh?

Morales has done more for his people than any gov't in NA would even dare whisper about - but then being brave enough to work for the people, and not the 1% isn't really something that's valued in NA.

[nilesobek]

44. Shithole?

You going to stand by that statement? I think you just insulted the whole country of Bolivia, not just its President. If you really didn't care you wouldn't have got so emotional about it.

[a la izquierda]

45. A shithole in South America?

Are you for real, or did you mistake DU for Discussionist or some other dungeon?

[Puglover]

46. And Scoot gets a post hidden

upthread for pointing out this xenophobic horse shite. The DU rules are just so awesome!

[polly7]

54. I just noticed that too, isn't that something? Sad. nt.

[caraher]

57. An alert can help, sometimes

On Sun Feb 1, 2015, 09:09 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

To put him under the bus, I'd have to give two shits about him in the first place.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6162021

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Disruptive and inappropriate. As well as plain ugly.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Feb 1, 2015, 09:16 AM, and the Jury voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Hiding for the droning portion of the post. Simply not needed.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Sounds like someone who belongs on a different site
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Lighten up, Francis.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Assholish, probably, but no need to censor.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Puglover]

58. True.

But I like to complain.

[pa28]

38. The Guardian: Forcing down Evo Morales's plane was an act of air piracy

It's little things like this that have alienated various democratically elected leaders in Latin America and pushed them into a pro-Russian diplomatic stance.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/04/forcing-down-morales-plane-air-piracy

Imagine the aircraft of the president of France being forced down in Latin America on "suspicion" that it was carrying a political refugee to safety – and not just any refugee but someone who has provided the people of the world with proof of criminal activity on an epic scale.

Imagine the response from Paris, let alone the "international community", as the governments of the west call themselves. To a chorus of baying indignation from Whitehall to Washington, Brussels to Madrid, heroic special forces would be dispatched to rescue their leader and, as sport, smash up the source of such flagrant international gangsterism. Editorials would cheer them on, perhaps reminding readers that this kind of piracy was exhibited by the German Reich in the 1930s.

You know. Little things like that.

[n2doc]

40. RT is Putin Propaganda

Just like Fox is Murdoch propaganda. So long as you keep that in mind I see no problems in reading what they post. Just don't expect the unvarnished truth.