MSNBC Sticks A Fork In The Eye Of Hayes And Maddow Viewers By Putting Morning Joe On At Night

[babylonsister]

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/01/msnbc-sticks-fork-eye-hayes-and-maddow


MSNBC Sticks A Fork In The Eye Of Hayes And Maddow Viewers By Putting Morning Joe On At Night
By Heather

1/31/15 5:00am


I don't know who MSNBC thought they were appealing to this Friday evening but they seemed to be determined to stick a fork in the eye of their regular viewers who were expecting to see Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow on the air and found themselves watching an atrocity called Morning Joe at Night rather than their usual fare of liberal television for the evening.

The two hour show was every bit as banal and awful as any of their typical three-hour three-ring circuses they air every Monday through Friday during the week and I fear watching too much of this stuff would have most people -- as Charlie Pierce loves to say when commenting on Tiger Beat On The Potomac (a.k.a. Politico) -- ready to break out the Prestone, and make it a double, especially if you didn't know it was coming. I was somewhat prepared because I heard Mrs. Greenspan talking about how wonderful it was going to be that they were allowed to pollute MSNBC's airways at night instead of just the usual three hours they're given in the mornings.

Joe has a meltdown

About the only mildly interesting part of their entire two hour exercise was watching Joe Scarborough have another one of his meltdowns when Chris Matthews dared to challenge him on foreign policy and what the next Republican presidential candidate might have to run on if they hope to win the next election.

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Don't do this again, MSNBC

Unless their intention is to run Chris Hayes' and Rachel Maddow's ratings down to nothing, it might not be wise for the network to repeat this little experiment again any time soon. They replaced what is generally two hours of intelligent broadcasting that informs the viewers with two hours of banal claptrap that insults their intelligence instead, and with Joe Scarborough playing the bully-boy in prime time rather than the mornings, when most of their audience is half asleep.

[leveymg]

1. NBC corporate is signalling its shift away from the liberal wing of the Dem Party. Joe Scum for VP?

[SCVDem]

59. Click!

I missed being sent to prison!

[leveymg]

64. When did a little thing like murder ever stop anyone in the GOP from pursuing higher office?

[grasswire]

67. hey!

Where have you been? You've been missed!

[leveymg]

70. Thanks.

Just took a little vacation. Thanks for punching my timecard every morning when I didn't appear to show up on time.

[billhicks76]

90. Screw Joe

Everyone knows about the dead intern in his office that " hit her head" right? Right around 911.

[merrily]

106. When was NBC corporate with the liberal wing of the Democratic Party?

NBC leans right and MSNBC is "establishment."

[leveymg]

109. That's by their own demographic categories.

The Center-Right according to their measure is somewhere between Otto von Bismarck and Charlemagne. Much a reflection of themselves. Here's the NBC top executive team deciding Keith Oberman's resignation:

[marlakay]

2. I turned on Rachael

And wondered what was up.

Why couldn't Rachael do football? Did she not want to?

We turned off.

[NuclearDem]

3. She was off deflating the Patriots' footballs in Arizona.

[MH1]

14. Oh, it was Rachel!! Rachel is The Locker Room Guy!!!

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12252086

[TheBlackAdder]

55. If the guy just used the needle, without holding the entire pump, he would completed it in time. nt

[classof56]

24. I too turned it off as soon as I realized WTF was happening.

Poured a glass of red and watched Sons of Liberty.

Cheers!

[Mr.Bill]

36. Since she wasn't on last night,

I watched her appearance on David Letterman which I had recorded Wednesday night. They had a very entertaining, if brief, talk about football. Rachel is a big Patriots fan. She is quite knowlegable about sports.

[YOHABLO]

76. Of course she is .. aren't all lesbians "knowledgeable" about sports? Especially U.S. football?

.

[movonne]

86. I did the same thing...as soon as I saw she was not on, off went the tv...

[Gidney N Cloyd]

4. Just for fun, imagine the fireworks if Keith Olbermann were still in that slot and got preempted...

ANd by the way, this looked even worse than the usual morning edition. The regulars normally compete that hard for face time. Joe even takes long breaks.
I tuned in for a while and half the panel looked drunk.

[yeoman6987]

5. I guess putting another couple hours of prison

Garbage that they do on Saturdsys and Sundays would have been better. I didn't watch last night. I watch ABC on Friday night, but clearly Rachel deserves a day off every now and then.

[Gothmog]

6. I refused to watch this show

[CAG]

7. I think we'll live without one night of Hayes and Maddow

[99th_Monkey]

82. If that is all this is, then yes of course, we can endure ONE night w/out Hayes & Maddow

but I think peeps are seeing something a bit more sinister at work here, and
I'm not certain I can say with a straight face that their concern is entirely
misplaced.

[CatWoman]

8. LOL -- You should see the Morning Joe Face Book comments

https://www.facebook.com/MorningJoe/photos/a.180641148761.122249.90692553761/10152990108408762/?type=1

think DU is disgusted?

so are others, and they aren't shy about voicing their displeasure

[Enthusiast]

22. Thanks. I am officially adding MJ at night to my boycott list.

[MrMickeysMom]

27. Who owes the Kochs a blow job?

That must be the only reason they put it on. Not one positive comment, as expected.

Haven't bothered with Morning Blow since seeing it a few times.

[davidpdx]

83. The list of people that owe that Kochs a blow job is longer

than the Mississippi.

[winstars]

41. Comments are great, below another link to a story about their horrible ratings, more great comments

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/27/msnbc-viewers-dump-morning-joe-scarborough-lowest-rated-cable-morning-news-show.html

[Fred Sanders]

47. Any mention of free seats in the Koch box? What else were they promised at the secret Koch retreat?

[fredamae]

9. I "Shut That Whole Thing Down"

MSNBC Program Mgr/CEO can go............aww, whats the use?
They don't give a rats ass what we think or should I say Comcast (51%) and GE don't give a rats ass...Wasn't it GE (the Non tax payers) posted record profits then finagled a Multi-Million dollar Tax Refund out of Us?
I stopped buying their cheap assed appliances/goods and now I dump their no news fox lite bs.

2009, Comcast bought 51% control of MSNBC...
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/34247302/ns/business-us_business/t/ge-reaches-deal-comcast-nbc/#.VM0Fvbl0xok

[vlyons]

20. Oucheroo!! Their FB page is really really filled to the brim with bad press and bad pans

https://www.facebook.com/MemeGOP/photos/a.429122320441047.103062.429101477109798/946498468703427/?type=1

[niyad]

23. awwww, the page is "currently unavailable".

[winstars]

42. try the link in post 8 above, some really funny comments

[niyad]

44. thanks. they were great.

[winstars]

45. :)

[BlancheSplanchnik]

26. truth. ^

I'm not missing anything cuz I don't watch smellovision, but I still hate mega monopolies.

[Stellar]

10. I stopped watching 'morning joke' about eight months ago...

I was tired of being pissed off at that joker and refused to watch him ever again. When I saw that last night I was like....WTF!!! I turned it off with a quickness.

[Cha]

72. Dive for the remote, did ya? That's what I use to do when I had a tv back in the day and bush would

pop up!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

104. I did the same a couple years ago.

The "desire to put fist through TV" ratio got too high.

I gave up all cable tv news shows. I never thought I would be "one of those"

[jwirr]

11. I did not watch. MSNBC should learn something from this. I actually preferred nothing to what they

had on.

I wonder of Chris and Rachel didn't want to go to the football bananza? Don't blame them for that neither did I.

[olddots]

12. your TV isn't even furnature any more

We just bought a smart TV but everything on it is dumb .

[valerief]

34. There's always The Weather Channel. nt

[starroute]

49. Even the Weather Channel isn't what it used to be

More silly reality shows and less actual weather. The real weather geeks dropped it long ago.

[valerief]

50. You know, I must agree with you. It used to be a real weather channel. Now it's as bad as TLC.

However, during storms, it reverts back to being a real weather channel. I guess they haven't learned how to fuck that up yet.

[starroute]

52. It's all about the ratings

Hurricanes and blizzards still pull in the eyeballs. Day-to-day forecasts not so much.

[valerief]

53. Then they should put on movies with a weather theme. They'd be better

than their overblown weather specials.

Animal Planet bites, too. It's all about vicious animals or suffering animals. Why not have PuppyBowl every day?

[irisblue]

75. Pitbulls & Parolees, Too Cute are pretty good

I am a sucker for rescue stories and puppies& kitties. Squee wins

[valerief]

94. Pitbulls are NOT squeeable. Ugh! nt

[irisblue]

97. your call, mine is different

[obxhead]

89. You can thank Bain Capital for that.

[valerief]

95. Oh, my. We have SO much to than Bain Capital for!

[pinboy3niner]

13. If they really want ratings, they should do a series on Joe Scarborough in Jail

[RKP5637]

57. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Caffeine Free]

112. !

[Enthusiast]

15. I got ready to DVR Rachel to watch in the AM when I read on my guide that it was MJ.

There is zero chance that I will watch that lying propagandist.

[Panich52]

79. Bad enough repeats prempted by damn prison shows on Fri

But if I'm gonna miss Chris & Rachel on Fri, at least Rach is repeated at 5a - can still set dvr. But to boot em all f/ Scar? Took me 3 sec to find sonething else to do than watch him. I also avoided him in am sonetime last summer. If I want news program in am, I watch AlJazeera.

[jalan48]

16. 2016

Looks like the corporate media is getting the viewers ready for the 2016 elections. I'm sure FOX will follow suit and put a progressive on right before Hannity.

[Duval]

17. So glad we were

into reading last night and missed this! What my husband said about the idea is unprintable!!

[BigDemVoter]

18. Good Ole "Morning Ho" IS a travesty. . .

It's bad enough in the morning when one wakes up, but at night? Oh hell no. . .

[Faux pas]

19. I am pissed!

I don't watch morning faux because I can't stand the ass. I can't believe they preempted Rachel's Friday News Dump for that?!? I missed Chris Hays too.

[2naSalit]

21. Probably in his contract

and they had to remit. They are slithering down a slimy slope with me at this point.

I have also noticed a troubling trend for online viewers with many channels, including CSPAN... you have to log in by identifying a TeeVee provider to view live content anymore. I tried to watch SoU speech last month on CSPAN and was informed that in order to watch in real time, I would have to log in by that method.

I think that MSNBC is suffering from the corporate gravitational pull into a dark abyss of mindless distraction. I hope that Rachel is using her "off air" time to seek a new outlet for her journalism... because her current employer is becoming a propaganda outlet rather than a news source - not that they have been a news source for some time at this point.

[tooeyeten]

25. Management decision

To schmooze with NFL owners all weekend.

[HappyMe]

28. If this was just one night, meh.

I don't think anyone died from not having Rachel or Hayes not available for one night.

If the do it regularly - then I would be peeved.

[ArcticFox]

29. I've been off cable for years now

Honestly, it was easy. Very little withdrawal. It feels good to be sending less money and ratings to those oligarchs.

[zeemike]

85. Me too, and I don't miss it at all.

The last time I watched TV was when I was in the hospital, and I wore the remote out trying to find something to watch...it is a vast wasteland.

The best thing you can do is to turn it off and unplug the cable...it is a waste of time.

[kydo]

30. Yep, Thats about how it felt

I can't stand morning joke.

I live in a red area in FL. Most of the people I interact with on a daily basis watch faux and repeat what they hear from that toxic waste dump. And think they are smart.

I often tell them, MSNBC is not the liberal media. They don't believe me cause faux says MSNBC is the liberal media. I shake my head and laugh. Sure believe that if they want. One day there will be a real progressive, left leaning media outlet. By the time the brain dead figure out MSNBC is faux lite it will be to late. Liberal media will rule the world. And won't they be sorry.

There is some liberal programing on MSNBC, but it is not a liberal media outlet, by a long shot.

[George II]

31. It was a one-night Super Bowl special!

[HappyMe]

32. That's what I thought.

I don't think it's a big deal because of that fact.

I don't care what those 2 fools have to say in the morning, let alone listen to them blab about sports.

[George II]

39. Since NBC is doing the Super Bowl this year, they have a whole bunch of people out in Phoenix...

...including Chris Matthews, Mike Barnacle, etc. for the weekend. NBC will be running Super Bowl specials tonight and tomorrow, too.

Who knows, maybe Rachel Maddow wasn't interested in going out there (she was on David Letterman the other night in NYC)?

[HappyMe]

43. She may have taken some time off.

She deserves it.

There's always a bunch of Super Bowl commentary on. Watch it or don't watch it. I usually don't bother with the extra shows and just watch the game.

[George II]

51. Quite possibly. The bottom line is that the premise of the linked article most likely isn't true.

[HappyMe]

56. No, I don't think it's true either.

I doubt that they would take 2 successful shows and replace them with Joe. Besides that, these people have contracts. They aren't going to switch things up just like that.

*sigh!* Crooks & Liars got plenty of clicks and cranked up some controversy.

[George II]

61. I'd say we "stuck a fork in the eye" of crooks and liars!

[HappyMe]

63. Yup. We sure did.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

101. Why don't you two get a room?

[HappyMe]

102. What is your problem?

You're welcome to join in the pointless poutrage elsewhere in the thread.

[George II]

108. You get offended when reality trumps phony conspiracy theory?

[merrily]

107. They pretend Barnicle has inside info about all things Massachusetts, even though he has

obviously been living in the NY metro area for years.

Got caught making up stuff at the Boston Globe, so he's perfect for Joe and dim bulb Mika the Mannequin.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

33. Didn't you hear? Republicans WON in the mid-term.....

That means a majority of the country wants Right Wing TV.

[demigoddess]

35. I didn't know that MSNBC was into republican propaganda

Cannot stand scarbororgh.

[NBachers]

37. So why don't they *SURPRISE!* put Rachel and Chris on during Morning Joke's slot?

I don't give money to the cable monopolies, so I've never seen Intern Killer Joe. I'm sure I never will.

Why waste my beautiful mind on that garbage?

[Hekate]

38. I was really confused, I have to admit, but I turned it off pronto when I saw there was no Chris...

...and later when there was no Rachel.

Scarborough and pals disgust me. I have in the past seen quite enough of him by accident, and there is not a chance in hell I will watch his show longer than it takes to change the channel.

Surely this can't be permanent?

[Fred Sanders]

40. The purpose was not to piss off the liberal audience, it was to embrace the Wingnut audience.

The liberal audience is gumming up the works of the current mass propaganda push of the corporate media to get you to ignore rising populism in the world.

[HappyMe]

46. Yes, it's a vast conspiracy!

The yahoo Joe was blathering on about the Super Bowl. It's not a permanent thing.

[LongTomH]

48. Truth! Rachel could have given much more intelligent commentary on the Superbowl.

She's better informed on everything than Morning Joke!!!!!!!

Fortunately, FX was running The Lorax, so I didn't have to choose between Joe Schmoe and Ancient Aliens.

[3catwoman3]

68. She is better informed than just about anybody...

...on just about everything.

[Thinkingabout]

54. Wasn't this just a special on the Friday before the Super Bowl? I have checked and found Hayes,

Rachel and O'Donnell to still be listed on Monday. Give MSNBC some credit, they may not be as stupid as others thinks, they understand the ratings. Why does MSNBC also cover the SOTU without all these complaints.

[SoCalDem]

62. and the last night I saw Hayes, it was a whole hour of "draft" nonsense

Infotainment no time for news

[Vinca]

58. That was really annoying. I couldn't change the channel fast enough.

[RKP5637]

60. More and more MSNBC is forcing me to switch to CNN or AJZ. I just can not

stand Morning Joe with him in some bully rage and Mika there preening and posing. It's really IMO a horrible spectacle each morning.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

78. Agree

[Ex Lurker]

65. At least they didn't preempt Lockup NT

[kentauros]

69. Ever since discovering Al Jazeera America, I stopped watching MSNBC.

The quality of news coverage, interviews, and just general presentation is the epitome of what I want from a news channel. And it's more liberal or at least seems that way.

Al Jazeera America - Current Programming

[marble falls]

92. I've got my ex CIA, Republican Women board member wife watching al Jazeera and Rachel Madow.....

She agrees with me, al Jazeera and Rachel present a calm, open and fact filled news and commentary. She's almost stopped watching any Fox.

[kentauros]

110. That's impressive!

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Their presentation reminds me so much of what CNN was like in their beginning years, and why it was such a great news channel back then. I don't know how the change happened to what we've got now, but it's really not 'news' so much as infotainment.

[marble falls]

113. CNN has turned into a mockery of news, as bad as Fox but in a different way.

[Cha]

71. Ye-ah! And, as this tweets states.. "No better way for @msnbc to say the hell with the viewers..

WayneEdH @WayneEdH
Follow
No better way for @msnbc to say to hell with the viewers than putting on Joe Scarborough in place of Rachel!!! #FailFailFailFail
4:14 PM - 30 Jan 2015 33 Retweets 19 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/01/30/laugh-this-week-away/#comments

Mahalo babylonsistah~ And, Thank you, Heather @ C&L

[DallasNE]

73. Joe Scarborough Had A Zell Miller Moment

With Chris Matthews and Matthews just chuckled and waved him off. The network then had Mika take the show to an unscheduled commercial. It was that bad. I'm sure we haven't heard the last of this little blow-up.

[CatWoman]

77. link

http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2015/01/joe-scarborough-melts-down-chris

[Grammy23]

99. If that was a meltdown, I'm a monkey's uncle.

Having seen Joe Scar really have a meltdown over the years of tuning in (more out of curiosity and to catch some of his guests and what they are attempting to say), this was a weak imitation of the real McCoy. Joe's face was not nearly red enough with blood vessels bulging and spit coming out in great, frothy gobs.

Joe is used to bullying his guests and doesn't mind insulting anyone he disagrees with. And Chris Matthews is certainly capable of holding his own against the likes of Joe Scar. There are few people on television more annoying than Chris who regularly talks over his guests, interrupts them or drags out his question running his mouth to the point that there is NO time left for the person to give a complete answer. I've seen Chris go on tirades that could teach Joe a thing or two about on air bullying. He is no shrinking violet.

Joe is just a very egotistical bully, used to dominating the conversation and Mika plays right along like the abused co- host that she us. But to characterize the interaction Friday night between Joe and Chris as a "meltdown" is laughable.

By the way, it is my great misfortune to live in the same part of Florida that Joe regularly refers to as his "hometown". He was my Representative in Congress before he decided to "spend more time with his family". UGH!

[JohnnyRingo]

74. Your subject line reeled me in...

...but after reading some of the replies I see it was for one night only. I blew out the torch and returned the pitchfork to the shed.

Coulda mentioned that one small detail before I got so steamed at the prospect that MSNBC cancelled Maddow and Hayes.

[Cha]

80. K

[oldandhappy]

81. I found it very easy to change channels.

click click !!!

[RoverSuswade]

84. I just turned the TV off.

c.l.i.c.k.

[americannightmare]

87. And yet you still give them $50-$150 a month...

for your bloody cable TV. If even 25% of the suckers who feed these corporate killers cut off their cable for 6 months, you'd have them on their knees! Meanwhile, if the money was spent locally, you'd create millions of jobs, far more than if spent with corporate chains...

http://www.amiba.net/resources/multiplier-effect

[Gidney N Cloyd]

93. In 15 years there'll be a whole new "TV" delivery paradigm

The cable model as we know it now will seem as antiquated and restrictive as the old AOL.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

88. Whoever is running MSNBC has gone insane.

All the shows are tanking in part because they tossed three strong voices - Olbermann, Ugar and Bashir - in pretty short order. Scarborough gets a pass on everything. And I'll wager it was his idea to be on the air Friday night.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

103. And Phil Donahue.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

111. Before my time, but absolutely right.

And they even ridiculously fired alpha male Alec Baldwin.

[Historic NY]

91. "Morning Smoe, gets a night show"

[Atman]

96. Another reason to be glad I gave up cable tv.

Not that I watched Maddow or Hayes anyway, but Evening Joe? I sooner drink the Prestone.

[onehandle]

98. I quit watching MSNBC over a year ago when we cancelled cable TV.

Honestly even the good people on there are getting monotonous.

[dicksmc3]

100. Blah!!!

I know it's Super Bowl week but, for the life of me, why in the hell does MSNBC continue to rant over the DEFLATEGATE SHIT??? I'm sick and tired of the crap on this channel!! I know it's the director of the network setting the BS agenda!! I get it. Joe Scumborough and Mika Bitchzinski have their own 3 hours each and every morning. Why do you insist on putting them on in our prime time taking the place of Rachel and Chris?? Then this morning Steve Kornacki talks for a whole 15 minutes with Ed Schultz and Ed Rendell about what??? The damn DEFLATEGATE and cheating!! C'mon MSNBC give us progressives more airtime.. Quit shoving Mika and Joe in our faces every chance you have!! P.S. let Rachel and Chris talk about real politics, not watered down crap!!!

[geomon666]

105. Murdering Joe at Night

How fitting.