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The actions of ISIS (or at least "Jihadi John" and his cameraman) seem designed to enrage the West and its allies to the point that that's exactly what we do.
These guys are masters at mass manipulation.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)crimes against humanity first. Only after those trials have concluded and the perpetrators received justice will I consider whether we should invade and occupy any other lands in the region.
Without our illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, there WOULD BE NO ISIS.
2naSalit
(86,664 posts)after the first beheading video.
Too many hotheads with itchy trigger fingers these days who think the only way to answer brutality is with brutality. I mean, look at our own Senator Johnny Warmonger who had two former US warlords in that Senate Committee meeting the other day... what was that about? Was he trying to get us to buy the same BS that worked so well decades ago? He sure was licking their boots when they were confronted by truth.
I was sick of those assholes way back then, not interested in seeing them anywhere except under a tombstone at this point, don't get why people like that live so long. At least the ladies of Code Pink showed them that we haven't forgotten what they did after all these years.
Back in the early seventies there was a great political ad, an anti war ad, that I will never forget though I only saw it twice at 2am. That's how bitingly true it was and how unpopular among the war machine it was, but we had public funding for political campaigns then and equal time had to be given to opposing views... so they put it on at 2am.
The ad showed two groups of three men walking toward each other across a field. They were dressed in top hats, bowlers and tails to represent the elite politicians with a couple assistants on hand. As they drew near each other, the narrator described how wars are waged by politicians and not the youth of their nations who actually fought in those wars. When the two groups reached each other, the two top hatted men removed their waistcoats, handed them to their assistants and started duking it out between just the two of them, rolling on the ground and really going for it. At this point the narrator concludes that if politicians want to wage wars, this is how it should be done and not with the blood of the youth.
Wish I could find a copy of that somewhere online... I'd make every attempt to make it viral.
Yeah, I hope that cooler heads prevail in this escalating debacle of inhumanity but I am not so certain it will happen that way.
2na.
onecaliberal
(32,873 posts)Who was no threat to you and kill a million people and displace many more.
But I'd love to see Jihad John in Supermax for the rest of his life.
Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)We've been doing very well from the sky.
Even ISIS admits it.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)....and truly, more American people die from domestic gun violence and drunk driving than from ISIS.
My POV on the entire Middle East is "not my circus, not my monkeys." I want to disengage from all of it. But if you want an honest answer, the way you fight terror is with terror: unleash a WMD on a large, ISIS occupied city. Demonstrate what terror really is. Demonstrate what a nation that harbors state-of-the-art nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons can do when provoked. Yes, people will think we're barbarians, and a lot of decent, innocent people will die -- but they'll stop fucking with us.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)Go ahead.