ALL THREE of Jeb's kids have had run-ins w/ the law, two have been arrested

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

Stalking, drugs, resisting arrest - pretty telling that the guy who ran as the darling of family values conservatives, and who wants to legislate every one else's morals, did such a lousy job raising all of his kids.

How many families do you know where every one of the siblings has been in trouble with police?

First there's George P. Bush, the doofus who used to actually call himself "Ricky Martin Bush"

Back when he was a Rice University student, Bush was investigated for burglary and criminal mischief related to a 4 AM visit to the Miami home of his ex, Cristina Cohen, and her parents.

A Miami-Dade Police Department report includes an account of the December 31, 1994 incident provided to cops by Murry Cohen, Cristina’s father.

According to Cohen, Bush--wearing black shorts and no shirt--arrived at the residence and “went to his daughter’s bedroom window,” pulled it open, and “pushed the screen inward.” As Bush was “climbing in the window,” Murry Cohen awoke and spotted the trespasser. A neighbor of the Cohens also spotted Bush trying to get into the residence and began to argue with him.

With his intrusion thwarted, Bush “backed out of the window.” Cohen reported seeing Bush then “jump into a vehicle and flee.” But he would not be gone for long.

Bush returned to the home 20 minutes later and drove his car through the Cohens’s yard, causing damage to about 80 feet of the lawn.

When police arrived at the residence, the Cohens identified Bush as the perpetrator. Cristina Cohen explained that she used to date Bush, but that they “have been separated for 1-1/2 years.” She added that Bush “has been a problem ever since they broke up.”

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/george-p-bush/george-p-bush-stalking-758409

Then there's Jeb's daughter Noelle:

Gov. Jeb Bush's 25-year-old daughter was found with crack cocaine at a rehabilitation center, police said Tuesday. If confirmed, it would be her second lapse since entering court-ordered drug treatment.

Police were called to the Center for Drug Free Living in Orlando late Monday, where workers gave them a "white, rocklike substance" they said they found in Noelle Bush's shoes, Police Sgt. Orlando Rolon said.
(...)

Bush was arrested in January at a Tallahassee pharmacy drive-through window for allegedly trying to buy the anti-anxiety drug Xanax with a fraudulent prescription.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-drug-problems-for-noelle-bush/

And finally, we have the youngest member of the crime family, John Ellis "Jebby" Bush:

The youngest son of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush was arrested early Friday and charged with public intoxication and resisting arrest, law enforcement officials said.
John Ellis Bush, 21, was arrested by agents of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission at 2:30 a.m. on a corner of Austin’s Sixth Street bar district, said commission spokesman Roger Wade.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9373195/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/florida-gov-jeb-bushs-son-arrested/#.VM3_-ygQdFo

Just think - if he does this great as a father, you'll never believe what he has in store for the U.S.!

[hollysmom]

1. I don't go after the kids until they go into politics

What you can look at is interference in the justice system. All kids do stupid things, but rich kids seem to be dumber than most.

[avebury]

4. There has already been talk that

George P. Bush has political aspirations.

Jeb in the WH or VP Mansion could be just as bad as Sarah Palin. Why should he get a pass on his family when Palin's has not? Of course Palin's family members have gone on to continue to earn their bad reputations.

I think that family does need to be considered when looking at a political candidate. One family member getting into trouble can generate a "That's too bad" and sympathy for the parent reaction. But all three children (and the wife) is a whole other story. Then is becomes all about the belief that privilege gives a person to act as they please because they are not like the little people.

There have been issues with the entire Bush family for a very long time. I would recommend that you read "The Immaculate Deception:Bush Crime Family Exposed.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Immaculate-Deception-Family-Exposed/dp/0922356807
The Immaculate Deception: Bush Crime Family Exposed Paperback – September 5, 2000
by Russell S. Bowen (Author)

[Thinkingabout]

28. George P Bush is serving as Texas Land Commissioner so he has opened himself up for

whatever. Texas rewarded W with governor after a lot of hard partying and was reported at one time cocaine so now we rewarded another Bush.

[Zen Democrat]

32. He has more than aspirations. He was recently elected to state-wide office in Texas.

[hollysmom]

41. I don't know if his daughter has recovered though or if he had her put away or something -

The rich do that to their girls in trouble, you know. I hope she is better now.

[TexasProgresive]

5. They suffer from affluenza.

Poor lil tikes never learned that actions have consequences.

[n2doc]

15. The first was just elected in Texas

http://ballotpedia.org/George_P._Bush

[valerief]

30. Christ, why won't these bastards just die out? nt

[hollysmom]

40. well, he is an open target them.

[vankuria]

42. If Pres. Obama's daughter's

were in trouble with the law, would they get a pass?

[hollysmom]

44. by me, depends, no one gets a pass for murder, but

Some drinking is OK, But if her father tried to change the laws for her, like JEB did for his daughter, that would be another story. The fact is Noelle is almost 40 and you never hear anything about her, I bet he has her locked up. I do wonder about her.

[vankuria]

47. The Obama daughters

get criticized by what they wear, the expressions on their faces, the music they listen to, etc. If they really did anything wrong the right wing media would be running stories 24/7.

[hollysmom]

48. I knbow and that is wrong, very wrong first

because they are great kids who don't get into trouble and the complainers are hating idiots and secondly because they are children.

[kelliekat44]

46. I don't go after the kids until they are no longer "kids." Responsibility, accountability is what

the parents and children of the working class get from the GOP all the time, especially black parents and children. No one is calling Bush offspring "thugs" or "low life." But black youth under the age of 18 are always rebuked, arrested, or even killed for far less.

[avebury]

3. Don't forget his wife.

She got caught by US Customs.

He sure does not seem to have any control over his household.

[Scarsdale]

7. Covering up

Uncle George's misdeeds were covered up and look where HE took this country. When Bush the elder was running for the WH, his team dug up all the dirt on Clinton and exposed it. At the time, G. H. W. was consorting with Jennifer Fitzgerld, and had been for many years (over 10) Clinton told his team not to expose it, even though in DC it was common knowledge. A traffic accident involving G.H.W and Jennifer was covered up. I think this family has been pampered for far too long. Time to do what the repubs. would do to any Democratic contender, expose the entire truth. Jeb has had his affairs, just like his father. Find out sooner, rather than later just what type of character he has.

[Thinkingabout]

29. Good point, played down and ignored by the same ones still on Bill about his choices.

[handmade34]

10. husband needn't have

"control over his household" but there sure seems to be a lot of dysfunction in the family... I searched info on his wife:
from 1999...

Gov. Jeb Bush said Monday that his wife misled U.S. Customs officials about $19,000 in new clothing and jewelry she brought into the country because she didn't want him to know how much she had spent on her five-day Paris shopping trip.

Forced to explain his wife's actions at the Atlanta airport Thursday, Bush said Monday that the episode had disrupted their family life. His wife, Bush said, feels "horrible about this." "It was a difficult weekend at our house," Bush said.

On Friday, the Bushes disclosed that Columba Bush had paid a $4,100 fine and was briefly detained by Customs agents for failing to declare merchandise when she arrived at Hartsfield International Airport. With that, the low profile enjoyed by the governor's quiet wife ended. "Shop 'til you drop," read a headline Saturday in the Bush's new hometown paper, the Tallahassee Democrat.

http://www.sptimes.com/News/62299/State/Gov_Bush_says_his_wif.shtml

[Orrex]

6. Probably because they listen to the devilish Beyonce

Instead of listening to good, wholesome, Huckabee-approved music.

[SummerSnow]

79. Yeah, wholesome music like Ted Nugent.

[Orrex]

80. I love Ted Nugent

He's the punchline that keeps on giving.

There is no discussion so ridiculous that the mention of Ted Nugent won't make it visibly more ridiculous.

[vlyons]

8. I saw grandma Barbara Bush as a very mean-spirited dragon lady

when she made very stupid and hateful comments about Hilary, when Bill was running for Prez. Can't find the exact quote, but I remember how surprised I was that a candidate's wife would be so mean.

[stevenleser]

35. I resisted that opinion for a long time. Then there was this nonsense with Katrina

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/07/national/nationalspecial/07barbara.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON, Sept. 6 - As President Bush battled criticism over the response to Hurricane Katrina, his mother declared it a success for evacuees who "were underprivileged anyway," saying on Monday that many of the poor people she had seen while touring a Houston relocation site were faring better than before the storm hit.

"What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas," Barbara Bush said in an interview on Monday with the radio program "Marketplace." "Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality."

"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway," she said, "so this is working very well for them."

------------------------------------------
And there are many other extremely snarky or outright nasty statements from her on a variety of topics.

This is clearly who she is.

[JHB]

37. It might have been her comment about Geraldine Ferraro, not Hillary...

When Ferarro was the VP candidate in 1984, BarbBush made her "I can’t say it, but it rhymes with rich" comment (sometimes also quoted as "rhymes with witch&quot

[roamer65]

70. Nixon on Babs Bu$h.

"That woman sure knows how to hate."

[AngryAmish]

9. Regression to the mean.

To quote Oliver Wendell Holmes, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough."

[Sienna86]

11. When all three kids have issues...

I believe there are issues in he home, which is driven by the parenting, or lack thereof. I would not judge parenting when some of the kids go astray, but when all the children have issues, something at home is amiss.

[zazen]

17. agreed; if by age 20, 100% of your _3_ kids have obvious internal demons and awful coping skills

then they're obviously dealing with an unusually challenging family system. I don't like the word "dysfunctional" because it's clearly functioning for someone's interests.

Even in situations with awful external stressors (war zone, poverty, slavery), children with at least one loving, devoted caregiver can manage to cope--and sometimes even show miraculous skills and strengths precisely because of the external adversity.

If a kid's born with a lot of internal turmoil, then a devoted parent can usually help them develop some coping skill for it. Or kids with parents who don't give a crap and don't model good coping skills don't necessarily have major internal conflict they're suppressing--they just sort of skate along with numb unquestioned behavior and privilege.

But both?

Yep, it's appropriate to judge when the public figure father wants to continue to inflict his dynasty on America and therefore the world. Plus, they're all adults.

[Duppers]

22. indeed!!!

Jacqueline Kennedy on parenting ...

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/jackiekenn163360.html

[jwirr]

31. One of the problems that got Adlai Stevenson beat when he ran against Ike Eisenhower was his

divorce. The Rs said that if he could not run his family how could he run the country.

[kydo]

12. Wasn't he a stoner? Jeb that is?

Seems the fruit pretty much resembles the tree (or bush in this case).

For the record, picking on kids (minors) of politicians is uncool. But none of Jeb's sprouts are minors and nor were they minors when they had trouble with law enforcement. Jeb's sprouts are not being picked on of because of their clothes, or looks. Mostly people are just repeating what law enforcement released in their records. And these sprouts have criminal records because they broke the law.

I have often heard you can tell much about a person by their children. All of Jeb's kids have had trouble with the law as adults.

[backwoodsbob]

13. why are we attacking peoples children?

Does this mean Chelsea's ties to Goldman Sachs and her big business ties are fair game?

[Bluenorthwest]

20. George P Bush is an elected Republican official in Texas, the only Bush ever to win his first

election. So if you have a problem with calling out Republicans who have stalking and house breaking in their pasts I have no time for you.

[backwoodsbob]

24. and Bill Clinton was President

does that mean Chelsea is fair game?

I REALLY don't like going after peoples kids

[progressoid]

66. Chelsea is 34 yrs old. She ain't a kid anymore.

Also she campaigned for her mother and works for the Clinton Foundation, so, yes, she is fair game.

[Duppers]

23. that's been discussed here

Just saying.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. Did she break the law? /NT

[kelliekat44]

50. Yes. And they have been talked about and scorned. nt

[Archae]

14. I keep asking, but I get no answer...

These misdeeds and arrests happened years ago, as much as 20 years ago.

Where are they now?

[Bluenorthwest]

21. One of them is holding office and is the only Bush ever to win their first election!!!!

Good stuff.

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. Finally, some positive qualities in the BFEE.

[onehandle]

18. Not fair. Being the child of fame makes you bad. Just look at the Obama and Clinton daughters...

...oh wait.

Nope. The Bushes are a family of criminals and general fuck-ups.

Carry on.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

33. Remember when they screamed bloody murder over "It takes a Village"?

Where the Bush family is concerned, It Takes a Parole Officer, and a Criminal Psychologist, and a Drug Counselor.

[csziggy]

19. Which one was arrested having sex in a car in a mall parking lot?

One of the sons was, but I don't remember which one. He was caught having sex with a woman in the parking lot of the mall while Jeb was governor. Of course, there were no charges, if I remember correctly.

[flamingdem]

25. ha ha ha

the entertainment never ends with the Repukes.

This guys kids compared to Hillary's daughter, pleeease.

[UTUSN]

26. K&R for, not to mention that Jeb Crow Shrub skates under the radar n/t

[jwirr]

27. We will not have to go after the kids. Show a picture of his wife. If she is a brown as her kids

the rw is not going to vote for her to be 1st lady. Most of them are a bunch of bigots. The " we hate Obama because he is black" will turn into a chant against her.

This will not be right but they see nothing wrong with bigotry. They hate all immigrants and I doubt that it matters that she came here legally.

[BlueCaliDem]

38. Columba Bush is a TINY woman - and she's pretty exotic

although she's allowed herself to go light-skin today.



If Jeb runs and people tout Columba Bush - a Mexican-American - then the Democrats better tout Julian Castro as VP running mate or Democrats will lose the White House. Whether we like it or not, Latinos will congregate around one of their own although Columba Bush would most certainly support the Republican Party's "NO" to immigration reform and all other programs that Latinos depend on (public education, college loans and grants, etc.), as opposed to Julian Castro who will fight to reform it and any other program any which way he can.

Latinos will definitely prefer Julian Castro over Columba Bush.

[jwirr]

39. Agreed.

[Ms. Toad]

34. The kids are not running for president. Leave them out of it. n/t

[madinmaryland]

49. I will say that George P. Bush is an elected offical in Texas...

so he is fair game.

The other two have their own personal issues which are none of our business.

[Ms. Toad]

54. I do agree that he is fair game in his own elected capacity.

Kind of silly and irrelevant, though, to use his misbehavior to attack his father's potential campaigns.

[Liberal_in_LA]

56. not if he's a law enforcement repub .. pro long drug sentences

[Ms. Toad]

58. His kids have nothing to do with it.

Unless you have evidence that he used his political influence to get his kids out of long sentences. In that case it might suggest hypocrisy.

Merely having trouble with the law says nothing about their father's political positions.

[Warren Stupidity]

60. Uh, no.

What year is this? 2015. It has been 35 years since Lee Atwater and Karl Rove threw out the rule book on political campaigns. And still Democrats make comments like yours. It is a war. It is serious. Nice loses.

[Ms. Toad]

63. It isn't about campaigns. It is about character.

And it is sad that you believe you can adopt vile traits of our political opponents without changing your own character for the worse.

[Warren Stupidity]

67. "adopt the traits" - somebody wise once said "you don't bring a knife to a gun fight".

The "vile traits" have been the political reality for 35 years. You can hold the moral high ground or you can win elections, but you can't do both.

[Ms. Toad]

69. If I have to turn into a Republican to win,

Then I am not interested in winning elections - because the people we elect will govern the way they win, and I am not interested in electing more people who govern, believing that dragging kids into political arguments, dirty tricks, and spying, and so on are appropriate tools.

The NSA spying, assassinations, and drones, for example start to look like acceptable tools for governance - as long as they further the goal we want. As we have seen during the last 8 years. So yes, I will continue to condemn leaving the moral high ground during the campaign - because once you leave it on the campaign trail it is hard to regain it when you are in office. And once the "good guys" have endorsed the tools, they are pretty hard to put back in the box just because someone is in office with different goals the tools might further.

To paraphrase Martin Luther King, you cannot achieve a moral end using immoral means.

[Agschmid]

61. Yup.

[PumpkinAle]

43. Jeb Bush on Family Values..............

Conservatives and Hispanics share family values

Certainly the most important characteristics most conservatives and Hispanics share are religious and family values. Hispanics tend to be deeply religious, to practice conservative forms of Christianity, and to be politically influenced by their religion
What is most striking about Hispanic religious beliefs is their attachment to "renewalist" faiths--Pentecostal, evangelical, and charismatic. 2/3 of Hispanics say their religious beliefs are an important influence on their political thinking.
But conservatism among religious Hispanics has not translated into Republican partisan affiliation. Democrats outnumber Republicans by 55 to 18% among Hispanic Catholics, compared to a 39 to 32% Republican edge among non-Hispanic Catholics.
Obviously, a large part of Republican electoral successes since 1980 is attributable to mobilization of religious voters, particularly evangelicals. Republicans should make a similar effort to connect with Hispanics on religious faith and moral values.
Source: Immigration Wars, by Jeb Bush, p.219-220 , Mar 5, 2013

Supper with kids keeps them away from drugs & booze

In 2005, Jeb hosted "Family Day" in the Capitol courtyard to encourage parents to have supper together with their children as a way to stay close and help keep them away from drugs and booze. Family Day took place barely a week after [Jeb's son] Jebbie was arrested for public intoxication in Austin, where he was a senior at the University of Texas.
"Families are the first line of offense and the first line of defense in providing support for children," explained Jeb to a pretty television reporter. "It's common sense. I think everybody would understand how strong, wholesome family life really matters, but there is really data, real research that suggests that families that are united, families that eat together, just have dinner together will have a better chance of their children being drug free and alcohol free."
So I asked Jeb if he wished he had spent more time with his own children when they were growing up. He walked away without saying a word.
Source: America's Next Bush, by S.V. Date, p. 66-67 , Feb 15, 2007

Encourage fathers' participation in child-raising.

Bush adopted the National Governors Association position paper:
The Issue

Growing evidence suggests that children from families in which fathers do not contribute their time and support endure a number of risk factors. Children with absent fathers are more likely to drop out of school, become teenage parents, develop drug or alcohol problems, or become involved in violent criminal behavior. Congress and the administration have recently proposed a number of federal programs to support state and local fatherhood initiatives.
NGA’s Position

Governors believe that government at all levels can and should take immediate action to help reduce the number of out-of-wedlock pregnancies and encourage active participation by fathers of all ages in raising their children. Governors have played a leadership role at both the national and state level in developing and implementing comprehensive strategies to strengthen the role of fathers in their childrens’ lives. While many Governors are using Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and other federal program funds to support state-specific fatherhood initiatives, additional investment in fatherhood would broaden the population of fathers that can be served. Governors believe that there should be support of and coordination between existing programs and any new federal funding stream designated for fatherhood initiatives and that these new initiatives should not be funded at the expense of another vital human service program.
Source: National Governors Association "Issues / Positions" 01-NGA12 on Sep 7, 2001

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Jeb_Bush_Families_+_Children.htm

[kelliekat44]

45. What stands out to me is that none of them were shot by cops. nt

[RandySF]

51. And the main takeaway is this...

All three got away with it because of their status.

[elfin]

52. Plus I think "Jebby" was caught fornicating in public

as a teenager.

Plus a wife who tried to evade customs, but who has done significant drug treatment advocacy through the years.

The only one I really feel sorry for is the daughter.

I think the males are fair game due to high national aspirations of George P and financial interests of Jebby.

Just think if Chelsea had done even a teeny bit of these outside the law acts.

[L0oniX]

53. I hear the daughter knows how to spin some mean donuts with a car in gov home front yard.

[Liberal_in_LA]

55. i vaguely remember the story about the daughter

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

57. In Florida?

George P is damn lucky they didn't shoot first, and worry about who the guy breaking in was after.

[Warren Stupidity]

59. If any Democratic candidate had this sort of record the candidacy would be over before it started.

[lunasun]

65. And all over various media repeatedly with commentary too

[TheNutcracker]

62. Jeb has had run-ins with the law himself!

[lunasun]

64. Conservative family values !

[Sancho]

68. Columba Bush (wife) has had issues with the law also...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/bushs-wife-is-caught-smuggling-clothes-1102279.html

[hughee99]

71. And yet some DUers argue Bill Clinton's connections to a pedophile aren't relevant

because HE's not running for president. We should let the people who think this matters at all get together with those people. That would be an interesting thread.

[Atman]

72. Here is my feeling about the Clinton issue (as if it matters).

Bill Clinton isn't running for anything. And even if he was, is he supposed to be held accountable for the actions of people he knows? Do you honestly think that he knew the guy was a pedophile, and continued to hang around with him, despite his wife's presidential ambitions and his own philanthropic work? That is the height of absurdity. So he traveled with the guy, and the guy turned out to be a criminal. That's Bill Clinton's fault HOW?

[hughee99]

73. I'm not arguing that Clinton did anything wrong at this point, but there's some speculation

that Clinton may be more "involved" than is currently reported. To dismiss the entire story and investigation simply because Bill Clinton isn't running for anything seems sketchy to me... especially if on the other side people are calling out Jeb Bush's 21 year old son in college for being drunk in public after last call outside a bar.

[Atman]

74. I think the whole Bush family are reprehensible scum.

None of them has ever done anything positive. No academics, no doctors, no philanthropists...just liars, weasels, banksters, Nazis and war profiteers. I honestly don't care what Jeb's kids did. Just more scum in a long line of scum. I'm just saying that it is rather absurd to think that anyone in Bill Clinton's position would knowingly be hanging around with a recognized pedophile. It makes no sense.

[hughee99]

75. I agree on the Bush family, but not on "anyone in Bill Clinton's position".

Rich and powerful people hang around with scumbags all the time (as long as they are rich and powerful scumbags). At the time Clinton was hanging around with this guy, I don't think he was a publicly recognized pedophile.

[Atman]

77. "At the time Clinton was hanging around with this guy,..."

"...I don't think he was a publicly recognized pedophile."

That's entirely my point. Why are people holding Bill Clinton accountable for something he could not possibly have known about? If the guy was running around bragging about screwing children and Clinton STILL hopped on his jet to party, sure, I'd say there was a serious issue. But nothing I've read (unless it's Fox New) seems to indicate that is the case.

[hughee99]

78. You misunderstood my comment on that.

At the time Clinton was hanging around with this guy he wasn't PUBLICLY recognized as a pedophile. That's not the same as saying the people who hang around with him don't know (or at least suspect). A friend of mine has a significant gambling problem. Most people don't know it, but his friends can tell. You've jumped to the conclusion that Clinton "could not possibly have known", and I don't think that is necessarily true.

[Orsino]

76. Didn't have Daddy's money or Daddy's penchant for legal crime. n/t

[yellowcanine]

81. I don't care what his kids have done. I do care about his role in stealing Florida for W in 2000.

No one wants to talk about it but there is a lot there which hasn't come out, imo. If Katherine Harris were to start singing we might get the truth.