Jordan to execute Sajida al-Rashawi and five others

[Kaleva]

"Sky News reports Jordan will execute Iraqi prisoner Sajida al-Rahaswi and five others linked to terrorist organizations in the upcoming hours.

"The sentence of death pending on... Iraqi Sajida al-Rishawi will be carried out at dawn," the security official said on Tuesday, speaking on condition of anonymity to the Daily Star. "

http://www.albawaba.com/news/update-jordan-execute-sajida-al-rashawi-and-five-others-652304

[Adsos Letter]

1. Say what you mean, and mean what you say.

Jordan is doing it.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

2. Not good -- but I can't bring myself to call it bad. If that makes any sense.

[pampango]

3. You don't beat IS by becoming them. Killing them accomplishes nothing and does not

deter IS from its future public and gruesome executions.

[Historic NY]

5. Well Jordon found out they can negotiate with liars either...

they burned the pilot to death back on Jan 3rd.

[pampango]

10. Jordan found that out and every other country should learn a lesson from that. n/t

[alphafemale]

21. I hadn't heard that. But I guess they expected as much since proof of life was not forthcoming.

Doubly glad they didn't cower to the ridiculous conditions, then.

Still really saddened by the death of the Japanese journalist who thought he could help his friend.

[geek tragedy]

8. leaving them alive doesn't accomplish anything either though nt

[pampango]

9. The state not executing prisoners accomplishes quite a lot in my opinion. n/t

[Snow Leopard]

13. which is what then?

[pampango]

15. I don't believe in the death penalty. Perhaps you do. Even if a death penalty is appropriate,

it should not be done in retribution for actions taken by outside actors, but after due process and after all appeals are exhausted.

The US would have no right to execute prisoners at Guantanamo Bay in retribution for IS killing American hostages even if emotion tells us that we have to do 'something' to show that we are serious.

[Snow Leopard]

17. but you said that Jordan not executing them accomplishes a lot

I'm asking what 'lot' is accomplished?

[pampango]

19. If you don't see the morality of not executing prisoners in retribution then I understand your view

that "nothing" is accomplished by not killing them.

[geek tragedy]

14. Maybe in a different context

I would tend towards "the only good ISIS member is a dead one."

[CJCRANE]

22. I agree. What was it Nietzche (I can never spell his name) said about becoming a monster?

Also, it was obvious ISIS weren't negotiating in good faith because they follow the logic of a horror movie, so it was clear what was coming. (Which is why I sometimes wonder who's writing this unfolding narrative).

[Cali_Democrat]

4. eye for an eye

never works.

After 9/11, America decided to become like the enemy and torture and hold suspects indefinitely without trial.

How did that work out for us?

Not too well.....

[Snow Leopard]

12. according to what metrics?

how do you know what the world would look like if that didn't happen?

[Cali_Democrat]

16. We tried it after Sep. 11th

We tried to stoop to their level in order to defeat the jihadists around the world and Sunni extremists in Iraq. Abu Ghraib? Torturing them never worked and now many of those same folks are ISIS fighters.

It didn't work because extremist groups like ISIS are stronger than ever.

That's my metric.

We've pretty much lost the "war on terror".

Time to move on and acknowledge our defeat.

[Snow Leopard]

20. we haven't even come close to stooping to their level

You have a roster of ISIS fighters, and they are all ex detainees of Abu Ghraib? ISIS is stronger than ever? They've only been around for about a year.

We've killed scores of murderous bastards, so I don't see where we've 'lost' the war.

[CJCRANE]

23. ISI/AQI was formed in 2003 after the Iraq invasion.

ISIS are the latest iteration of that group formed out of the Abu Ghraib atrocities and the Sunni insurgency.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. Friedrich Nietzsche

[geek tragedy]

7. there is no deterring, or negotiating with ISIS. Just eliminating them one psychopath

at a time.

6 down, several thousand to go.

[Waiting For Everyman]

11. I think that makes a whole lot of sense.

They are on the right track, making the terrorists pay an equivalent price. Not to, just demonstrates weakness to them.

"The revenge will be as big as the calamity that has hit Jordan," army spokesman Colonel Mamdouh al Ameri said.

It's certainly 100% better than negotiating with these slime, which only encourages them to take more hostages.

[Lurks Often]

24. In about 4 hours, we'll see if Jordan is serious

Sunrise there is 6:28am

[winstars]

25. Thanks for doing the math, I was trying to work that out.... nt