Sandy Rios blames immigrants for measles, not anti-vaxxers.

[Archae]

No wonder she works for the AFA.

Sandy Rios: Blame Immigrants For Measles Outbreak, Not Parents Who Don't Vaccinate Their Kids

Submitted by Brian Tashman on Wednesday, 2/4/2015 1:55 pm

Sandy Rios, the American Family Association’s governmental affairs director, is upset with media coverage blaming the current measles outbreak on parents who refuse to vaccinate their children and thinks that the media should instead be baselessly blaming immigrants. On her radio program today, Rios claimed that it is a “fact” that unvaccinated immigrants are to blame for the outbreaks of measles and Enterovirus D68. “We cannot lay this outbreak of measles at the feet of parents who have refused to vaccinate their kids,” she said. “It’s their kids who are getting sick, by the way, and that’s plenty punishment. But I would say, and I submit to you that the vast majority of the problem that we’re having is because we have opened our borders to great danger.”

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[Wellstone ruled]

1. What a Stupid person.

[pampango]

2. It's THEM not US. Got to stick with the right wing theme at all times. n/t

[HappyMe]

3. Well of course!

Hurricane? Immigrants. Lost lunch money? Immigrants.

What a dumbass.

[Terra Alta]

4. immigrants brought the very first cases of measles and other illnesses

to America in the seventeenth century, all but wiping out the Native American population.

Though in this case, I'm pretty sure it isn't the immigrants who are responsible.

[jamzrockz]

6. This makes a whole lot of sense

than the anti vaxxer (which is really anybody that dares says anything negative about vaccines) magically created a virus that had been eradicated in the US for more than a couple of decades and made an epidemic (which is really not an epidemic) out of it.

I came to this country through the legal channel and I was made to get/produce vaccination documents for all the possible vaccination you can imagine before I was allowed into this country. In fact, the US embassy reject our records from my country and made us get everything all over again from the embassy approve clinic which costs about 20x more than the local clinic.

It makes perfect sense that after you eradicate a virus with no known non-human reservoir, the only way the virus can come into the area is via disease carrying immigrants. But lets ignore it and blame so called anti vaxxer for EVERYTHING.

[sdfernando]

8. So lets just say that I am a legal US citizen and I was a child of an anti-vaxxer

and I never got vaccinated. Then silly me decides that I want to take a vacation or maybe I'm an archeologist and go to a dig say in Africa somewhere. Just before I fly home, I unknowingly come in contact with someone infected with measles. My family wants to celebrate my homecoming so we take a trip to Disneyland. During that time I think I have gotten a cold but it doesn't seem bad. So I go to Disneyland and proceed to spread my measles infection throughout the park.....all the result of a LEGAL US Citizen!

[jamzrockz]

9. I didn't think of that

But people traveling to say Africa are also advised to update their shots plus get vaccines for really scary diseases like yellow fever and I cannot imagine anyone refusing that. The point is that if you go through the legal channels, these information and requirements are demanded of you and the vast vast majority get their shots covered before coming or going.

This is ways different when someone is just trying to cross the border. Also there are way more illegals crossing the border, then starting public schools than Americans going to places where measles hasn't be eradicated and then deciding to go to Disney world immediately after their return.

[geek tragedy]

10. Except that Mexico has a higher measles vaccination rate than the US going back decades.

http://theweek.com/articles/537527/illegal-immigrants-probably-arent-responsible-measles-outbreak

As does every other country in Central America.

So, perhaps you should use logic instead of xenophobia (hint: calling human beings "illegals" is really assholish in a Steve King kind of way)

People who are not suffering symptoms can still carry a disease.

Also note that the disease coming in is one thing; a breakout that's enabled by anti-vaxxers is quite another.

[KamaAina]

12. Actually, that has dropped off significantly in recent years.

Per nadinbrzezinski's FB page, it's fallout from the drug war. The national average has plunged from 98-99% to 85, with the steepest dropoffs coming in states like Sinaloa and Chihuahua that have been impacted by the narcotraficantes. Which makes sense when you think about it: who's going to risk their life making a trip to the doctor?

[geek tragedy]

13. almost to the point where it matches that of the US; moreover, the figure still holds for the

general population, most of whom would have been immunized from the recent narco wars.

There's a very ugly tendency amongst some to blame everything on immigrants, and the "disease-carrying immigrants" is one of the slimiest, most racist but also persistent canards in the history of US political discourse.

And it's not a coincidence that the people who peddle the "disease-carrying immigrant" stuff refer to those human beings as "illegals."

[KamaAina]

14. I am not blaming anything on immigrants

but rather on the narcos.

[geek tragedy]

15. I don't think we can blame the measles outbreak on the narcos either.

measles will come into this country every once and a while. That's unavoidable. there's no way of knowing who brought it here--legal resident, citizen, foreign tourist, undocumented immigrant, etc.

What is avoidable are outbreaks because there are unacceptably high numbers of unvaccinated Americans.

[jamzrockz]

17. Not true

viruses like Chicken pox and measles only have human carriers so the only reason why we are still seeing it is because other countries did not eradicate it all those years while the US eradicated the virus. Chicken pox will never show up again because luckily worldwide vaccination campaign eradicated it off the face of the earth unlike measles.

You should first blame the countries that did not do their job before pointing fingers at so called anti vaxxers

[geek tragedy]

19. You know that foreign tourists and US tourists returning from abroad can bring measles

back with them, right?

Because the US doesn't have vaccination requirements for tourists, or for its own returning citizens.

And you are still dodging the role that anti-vaxxers had--indisputably--in the SPREAD of the disease.

And you still haven't explained why an undocumented immigrant having just crossed the border would have paid $100 to go to freaking Disneyland.

[jamzrockz]

20. I replied to your other post

stating that tourists get a pass on showing vaccine document unlike green card candidates. But still an undocumented personUS doesn't have to pay to get into Disney world. Maybe they are working there using fake papers. Remember, it requires a human being to spread the virus and not just human kids.

[jamzrockz]

16. Maybe true

But how many years has the measles virus been deemed to be eradicated in those countries in South America? You use words like xenophobia to somehow make me out to be a bigot when its not true.

You may not want to believe it but its more likely that the virus got reintroduced to the US from a person who did not come in through the legal channels than any other way.

[geek tragedy]

18. How the virus got here is neither knowable nor material nor likely to have been

from an undocumented worker.

You know where an undocumented worker who's just come across the border (incubation period is 10-12 days) is not going to be?

A theme park where the cost of admission is $100.

You know who doesn't need to provide vaccination information?

Foreign tourists.

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/traveler/none/united-states

You know who else doesn't have vaccination requirements to enter the US?

US Citizens returning from abroad?

You know why it doesn't matter?

Because the OUTBREAK occurs because the virus came in contact with a large number of unvaccinated people.

[Teutonic Samuel]

7. Aw, Jeez!

[KamaAina]

11. What the hell kind of a name is Rios?

Somebody better check her vax records!