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malaise

(269,191 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:40 PM Apr 2012

ReTHUGS had secret meeting on innauguration night to figure out how to grind country to a halt

http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/breaking-news-politics/72368-gop-had-secret-meeting-innauguration-night-figure-out-how-grind-country-halt.html

During a lengthy discussion, the senior GOP members worked out a plan to repeatedly block Obama over the coming four years to try to ensure he would not be re-elected.

The disclosures – described as "appalling and sad" by Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod – undermine Republican claims that the president alone is to blame for the partisan deadlock in Washington.

A detailed account of who was present at the dinner on that January 20 night and the plan they worked out to bring down Obama is provided by Robert Draper in 'Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the US House of Representatives', published this week.

In his book, Draper opens with the heady atmosphere in Washington on the days running up to the inauguration and the day itself, which attracted 1.8 million to the mall to witness Obama being sworn in as America's first black president.

Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future – and failed – presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.
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ReTHUGS had secret meeting on innauguration night to figure out how to grind country to a halt (Original Post) malaise Apr 2012 OP
Sometimess conspiracies are real nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #1
We'll need to find out malaise Apr 2012 #3
Not criminal rufus dog Apr 2012 #4
It is sad that you have to add that disclaimer at the end Rex Apr 2012 #7
sounds like treason to me 2pooped2pop Apr 2012 #27
In another age..yes nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #28
They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Sorta like Osama bin Laden said about 9/11. nt nanabugg Apr 2012 #32
Benedict Arnolds. kentuck Apr 2012 #2
democrats should've did this to bush in 00. craigmatic Apr 2012 #5
What? Fuck over the American people in the name of politics? Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #10
Considering how bad bush was we would've been protecting the American people. craigmatic May 2012 #48
Democrats believe in government - Republicans do not... kentuck Apr 2012 #11
We believe in democracy too but bush wasn't elected. craigmatic May 2012 #49
I had someone on Facebook respond to my post about this O'Donnell segment... markpkessinger Apr 2012 #16
no, it wasn't the democrats in 2000 newspeak Apr 2012 #46
They are Traitors... talk about being unpatriotic fascisthunter Apr 2012 #6
I'm going to order this book malaise Apr 2012 #8
The author was on the Daily Show last night dragonlady Apr 2012 #12
It will be part of my summer reading malaise Apr 2012 #17
yes, i notice shanti Apr 2012 #35
Don't know about Issa but Boehner was not invited malaise Apr 2012 #37
Link to the actual article in the UK Guardian Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #9
Thanks a lot for that link malaise Apr 2012 #14
This needs media coverage longship Apr 2012 #13
We need to examine the number Obama appointees that are outstanding malaise Apr 2012 #15
and IF that explosion even REMOTELY happens in a Public way, Volaris Apr 2012 #43
this certainly isn't a surprise, but it still makes me sad renate Apr 2012 #18
I'm delighted this is now out in the open malaise Apr 2012 #19
Everyone who attended that meeting should be charged with treason. Leftist Agitator Apr 2012 #20
It's frightening but listening to Boehner bawling about malaise Apr 2012 #22
Stalin died 60 years ago. former9thward Apr 2012 #26
King George III passed on even much more far back nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #29
Treason is one of the few crimes that gets its legal definition from the Constitution. former9thward Apr 2012 #30
You might want to read nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #33
Motherfuckers and their motherfuckery. JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #21
Have a look at this malaise Apr 2012 #34
And they called US "Sore Losermen." calimary Apr 2012 #23
We need to make sure this STAYS in the news over the coming months scheming daemons Apr 2012 #24
Oh and forgot nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #25
The author was on the Daily Show last night kristopher Apr 2012 #31
i heard that story today. they agreed to oppose Obama in lock-step. spanone Apr 2012 #36
I did wonder malaise Apr 2012 #38
of course they are, the black President in the White House is just too much for them. spanone Apr 2012 #39
trying to destroy another Democrat Volaris Apr 2012 #45
This is the first I'd heard of it. mainer Apr 2012 #40
These traitors do not love their country. blue neen Apr 2012 #41
so, this reminds me of the meeting cheney had with repug congresscritters newspeak Apr 2012 #42
I'm shocked that this is not getting much coverage on TV malaise Apr 2012 #47
Democracy killers! Evidence has been there w/o the book. But that said, I'm buying the book. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #44
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. Sometimess conspiracies are real
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:43 PM
Apr 2012

This is one case, and no, it does not rise to the level of criminal before anybody says it.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
4. Not criminal
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:45 PM
Apr 2012

But in the worst economic times of most Americans lives, it was and is, definitely anti-American.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. It is sad that you have to add that disclaimer at the end
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:49 PM
Apr 2012

you would like to think we are all on the same side here.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
27. sounds like treason to me
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:29 PM
Apr 2012

them, the banksters, the ms media; treasonous mother fuckers who fucked over America for their own benefit.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
28. In another age..yes
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:34 PM
Apr 2012

But the standard to prove treason in US law is very high. This may rise to civil. Now if you find members of business and media as part of this, then you start entering not conspiracy territory, though would be part of th rap sheet, but RICO.

I am not a lawyer, but I know this country's treason burden of proof is so damn high, that we have had few executions and actually few convictions for yes, treason.

Cirque du So-What

(25,989 posts)
10. What? Fuck over the American people in the name of politics?
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
Apr 2012

I like to believe that the party I have chosen would never do something that reprehensible.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
48. Considering how bad bush was we would've been protecting the American people.
Thu May 3, 2012, 01:35 PM
May 2012

He wasn't elected anyway and had no mandate to do anything. Just think we could've stopped the tax cuts and no child left behind. The stimulus would've still been in place.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
11. Democrats believe in government - Republicans do not...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:55 PM
Apr 2012

That is why they would never do it.

It is a dangerous and deceptive game the Republicans play. And they do it very well...

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
16. I had someone on Facebook respond to my post about this O'Donnell segment...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:16 PM
Apr 2012

... that it was "just like the Democrats in 2000." I did my best to rip him a new one.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
46. no, it wasn't the democrats in 2000
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:38 AM
Apr 2012

I believe it was lincoln chaffee who exposed the meeting after little boots was selected. Where the repugs were told (apparently by cheney) that they were not going to deal with the democrats, that the WH was calling the shots.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
6. They are Traitors... talk about being unpatriotic
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:48 PM
Apr 2012

they have stooped so low, their words no longer matter.

malaise

(269,191 posts)
8. I'm going to order this book
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:50 PM
Apr 2012

Remember those names
Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future – and failed – presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
12. The author was on the Daily Show last night
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 06:56 PM
Apr 2012

April 26, 2012 . . . Jon was very impressed by the book.

malaise

(269,191 posts)
17. It will be part of my summer reading
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:18 PM
Apr 2012

I'll check TDS's webpage and have a look - he was on GEM$NBComcast a while ago

shanti

(21,675 posts)
35. yes, i notice
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:55 PM
Apr 2012

that pig, Lungren, is right in the thick of it god, i cannot stand him! i do wonder if issa was invited to this, although his names not there...

malaise

(269,191 posts)
37. Don't know about Issa but Boehner was not invited
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 06:10 AM
Apr 2012

because Frank Luntz dislikes him big time and word is that the feeling is mutual.
It did make me understand the Cantor Boehner tension.

longship

(40,416 posts)
13. This needs media coverage
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:11 PM
Apr 2012

Don't know if it will do any good, and it may even harm. But, if handled correctly, it would reveal the extent to which the Repugs are truly repugnant.

It seems that Axelrod is on top of it. Now, if we can only get a Fox mini-series produced, maybe entitled The Right Wing. Maybe Alan Alda and Michael J. Fox are available for the casting call.

malaise

(269,191 posts)
15. We need to examine the number Obama appointees that are outstanding
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:13 PM
Apr 2012

and identify the Senators who blocked them. DeMint I remember for sure.
This could blow up in their faces.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
43. and IF that explosion even REMOTELY happens in a Public way,
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:27 AM
Apr 2012

they are 9 kinds of FUCKED this November. There is quite a lot the American People (see Independent voters) will stomach from their politicians and national leaders, but this kind of...INTENTIONAL undermining isn't one of them, I think...especially when the target is a man who they might not all agree with politically or ideologically, but whom, when elected made this Nation believe again that it really IS possible HERE like it's possible nowhere else on Planet Earth. To plan and execute an attack on THAT concept is unacceptable to the "average American". And if they know about it, en mass they will not vote for it again.

The whirlwind is coming. And Mittens isn't the guy who can stop it.

renate

(13,776 posts)
18. this certainly isn't a surprise, but it still makes me sad
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:52 PM
Apr 2012

I would have liked it if we had been wrong--but of course the evidence that they were being purely and mindlessly obstructionist was pretty clear.

Well, maybe now that it's in print and in the media, it'll be up for discussion. Just in time.

malaise

(269,191 posts)
19. I'm delighted this is now out in the open
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:55 PM
Apr 2012

I hope Obama includes it among the jokes tomorrow night so it gets serious airplay

This is fugging sabotage of the Executive Branch of government.

 

Leftist Agitator

(2,759 posts)
20. Everyone who attended that meeting should be charged with treason.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:57 PM
Apr 2012

And if (and when) found guilty of treason, duly executed as a warning to others who might contemplate selling out their country.

We need to send a strong message that it is not OK to betray the government of the United States of America, *especially* if the person in question is purportedly a part of said government.

malaise

(269,191 posts)
22. It's frightening but listening to Boehner bawling about
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:04 PM
Apr 2012

no fight over student loans is a gazillion times more interesting given this meeting. They declared war on the Executive Branch the day he was sworn in.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. King George III passed on even much more far back
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:45 PM
Apr 2012

This has nothing to do with Uncle Joe. The high standards for treason in the US go to King George the Mad...

By the way that was an interesting...attack, since more than a few on this thread pointed out this looks like treason to them. And while they may have a point...it is simply not part of the Legal Tradition and our standard of proof, legally, to a treason charge, is quite high.

Now if these boys are working with media and business, and it can be proven by the state, RICO comes to mind, and that, if there is evidence, would send a strong message.

By the way you agree with this plan to obstruct all? Putting party before country is quite sickening.

Oh and yes, echoes of 1858. Look it up.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
30. Treason is one of the few crimes that gets its legal definition from the Constitution.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:56 PM
Apr 2012

No it is not King George. It is very specifically defined in the Constitution. But many don't like that document and the "more than a few on this thread" would be in that category.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
33. You might want to read
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:25 PM
Apr 2012
why it is defined in the Constitution. And yes it is one hundred percent related to King George III and how loosely and creatively he, and his people, used charges of treason both in the home country and the colonies. It was not accidental that it was written into these foundational documents. And if you think they are, well I guess the ten commandments are not an item of faith, but historic fact.

Why I have said in this thread that while some may feel it rises to that level, legally it does not.

But also telling somebody they may like Stalin, ignores where the definition of treason is, and chiefly why.

malaise

(269,191 posts)
34. Have a look at this
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:49 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/06/obama-judicial-appointees_n_706590.html
<snip>
A determined Republican stall campaign in the Senate has sidetracked so many of the men and women nominated by President Barack Obama for judgeships that he has put fewer people on the bench than any president since Richard Nixon at a similar point in his first term 40 years ago.

The delaying tactics have proved so successful, despite the Democrats' substantial Senate majority, that fewer than half of Obama's nominees have been confirmed and 102 out of 854 judgeships are vacant.

Forty-seven of those vacancies have been labeled emergencies by the judiciary because of heavy caseloads.

------------------
Delays in the Senate
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/chart-of-the-day-obamas-epic-failure-on-judicial-nominees/255651/

spanone

(135,887 posts)
36. i heard that story today. they agreed to oppose Obama in lock-step.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 10:45 PM
Apr 2012

what the fuck was newt doing there????

malaise

(269,191 posts)
38. I did wonder
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 06:12 AM
Apr 2012

So you see we are being lied to re the tension between the ReTHUG establishment and Newt. They are all on the same destroy Obama page.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
45. trying to destroy another Democrat
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:31 AM
Apr 2012

and re-invigorate the Southern Strategy for the NEXT election against the Very Scary Black Man. What else?

blue neen

(12,328 posts)
41. These traitors do not love their country.
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:09 AM
Apr 2012

They did everything they could to hurt the American people.

I can't wait to read this book! Thanks for the info.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
42. so, this reminds me of the meeting cheney had with repug congresscritters
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:10 AM
Apr 2012

after little boots was selected. The selected cretins were calling the shots, there was to be no dealing with the democrats. To me, it was a ruthless, greedy oligarchy. Little boots and his merry band of greedy thugs brought down this country economically; so, what does the current bunch of arseholes do after creating this fubar? Make sure that the you keep squeezing the people so you can get elected again. This just pisses me off to no end. All they think about is their global corporate lobbyists, how much money they can make and setting themselves up after congress. Apparently, they don't give a shite about the country or the people.

Destroying the people, destroying the country, if it's not treason, what do you call such betrayal?

malaise

(269,191 posts)
47. I'm shocked that this is not getting much coverage on TV
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:21 AM
Apr 2012

ReTHUGS get away with way too much sabotage.

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