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LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:39 PM Apr 2012

Here is a rant I chickened out of posting as a comment on a newspaper website in my home town

But I HAD to post this somewhere...

The basic aspects of patriotism – national loyalty, concern about the future of one’s country, a basic interest in the well-being of fellow citizens and the strength of the culture – don’t even exist in the thinking of today’s conservatives. They believe that the decline of the United States is not only inevitable, but desirable, if that’s where a devotion to laissez-faire capitalism leads us.

Conservatives were not always this way. They used to believe in America and what it stands for. Now, their priority is whatever serves the interests of the most rich and powerful – those conservatives look at as the “natural” leaders of society. Democracy, to them, is a now seen problem to work around, and not a thing to be admired and cherished.

To the modern conservative, even American greatness is not an end in itself. To the extent the U.S. can maintain a massive military able to “project force” in a way that protects corporate interests, the government seems useful to them. But the very idea that our resources should be used to build a better society is anathema to them. Priorities like maintaining a strong middle class, supporting education, funding basic research, maintaining infrastructure, promoting artistic achievement, reducing poverty and providing decent health to citizens – those are not even on their radar screen.

The dream country of the modern conservative is one full of uneducated people who don’t expect much, don’t complain and do what they are told by the One Percenters. And THAT is why they wanted the U.S auto industry taken down. It was a chance to put a stake in the heart of the American working middle class once and for all. They will never forgive Obama for taking that away from them.


OK... I feel better now... Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.

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Here is a rant I chickened out of posting as a comment on a newspaper website in my home town (Original Post) LuckyTheDog Apr 2012 OP
Go ahead.. send it. annabanana Apr 2012 #1
Naaah ... I have to live here LuckyTheDog Apr 2012 #2
i know how ya feel... madrchsod Apr 2012 #3
Aw nutz annabanana Apr 2012 #4
I am in a big place where I know a lot of prominent people... LuckyTheDog Apr 2012 #6
OMG Michigan.. You poor thing. I understand annabanana Apr 2012 #8
Don't forget ... the "conservatives" were screaming at how FDR was trying to draw zbdent Apr 2012 #5
I say ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #7
What HE said, Lucky.. . . (good edit). . .n/t annabanana Apr 2012 #9
You make an excellent point lunatica Apr 2012 #10

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
3. i know how ya feel...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:55 PM
Apr 2012

my paper posts our full names...no thanks. yesterday a guy wanted to kill "government education" and replace it with private schools or state run schools. i really think he does`t grasp the concept of the UNITED states of america.

LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
6. I am in a big place where I know a lot of prominent people...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:59 PM
Apr 2012

... and where I already am seen as a kind of a loose cannon.

The place is Detroit. It's a big small town in a lot of ways.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
8. OMG Michigan.. You poor thing. I understand
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:50 PM
Apr 2012

that you've all lost your democracy up there.

Do people just not understand the ramifications of unilateral dissolving of elected bodies? Or do they just not care?
Are people too scared to fight back or what?

You options are getting smaller every day.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
5. Don't forget ... the "conservatives" were screaming at how FDR was trying to draw
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 07:57 PM
Apr 2012

us into that European snit that became WWII, and gave us the Holocaust ... traditionally, conservatives were against involvement in foreign wars ...

Which they now try to claim that "liberals" would have had the entire world speaking German ...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. I say ...
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:01 PM
Apr 2012

go ahead and send it ... with one small change (boldfaced below):

The basic aspects of patriotism – national loyalty, concern about the future of one’s country, a basic interest in the well-being of fellow citizens and the strength of the culture – don’t even APPEAR exist in the thinking of today’s conservatives. They SEEM TObelieve that the decline of the United States is not only inevitable, but desirable, if that’s where a devotion to laissez-faire capitalism leads us.



Those changes make it clear that it is your opinion and blunts the "false fact" denial that conservatives will attack with. For example: If I say "you ARE this way or that way", your counter-argument is "No I'm not." But if I say, "You appear to be this way or that way", you beg them to address/defend their appearance.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
10. You make an excellent point
Sat Apr 28, 2012, 10:00 AM
Apr 2012

And I think President Obama actually has them on the defensive because they're trying to explain themselves, albeit by attacking what he says.

If we can control what everyone is talking about we've won.

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