George Zimmerman now has six mugshots. Travon Martin has an obituary.

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[Cali_Democrat]

1. Conservative hero, Geroge Zimmerman. nt

[Jack Rabbit]

8. No

Conservative Right wing hero.

Calling someone like George Zimmerman a conservative is like calling Josef Stalin a New Dealer.

[Jamaal510]

28. +1

[BlueCaliDem]

54. +1000

We need to differentiate between the two. I know a few Conservatives who were outraged by the verdict. I know of NO Right-winger who was, though.

[cwydro]

2. I keep waiting for karma to come and get him.

I mean, please?

[66 dmhlt]

56. Six more & he can put out his own Calendar

[napkinz]

3. K&R!

nt

[onehandle]

4. Gun nuts have more mugshots, period.

They're just a different flavor of 'the criminal element.'

[Hoyt]

5. Zimmy was a responsible gun lover right up until he grabbed his gun and set out to bully Martin.

According to gun fanciers, anyway.

[tblue37]

24. Actually, the gun fanciers mostly seem to think he was being

"responsible" when he hunted down Trayvon Martin, too. It was only the stuff he kept doing afterward to get him in trouble with the cops that forced them to finally say he was being an irresponsible gun owner. Most of them saw nothing wrong with his handling of his gun in his shooting of that poor kid.

[Jamastiene]

81. Most of them STILL don't see anything he does as wrong.

It is disgusting.

[Baitball Blogger]

6. That LAB ProLib looks interesting.

[Aldo Leopold]

7. Dead eyes.

No soul.

[Jamastiene]

82. Exactly.

People with that look in their eyes have no remorse whatsoever. I've met and known enough people with that look to know.

[JI7]

9. how i hate this piece of shit

and there are people who see this worthless shit as a fucking hero

[winter is coming]

10. It's a matter of time before he murders someone else. n/t

[ohnoyoudidnt]

17. I can only hope his next intended victim is also carrying and is a faster draw. nt

[BlueCaliDem]

55. That's what I've been hoping as well. eom

[Indydem]

11. So, how many convictions does he have?

How about how many crimes has he actually been charged with?

Having a mugshot when you are a high profile individual does not make you a criminal.

What is it about the criminal justice system that so many people on the DU fail to accept?

[OldRedneck]

14. You know goddam good and well how many convictions he has

This comment likely will be pulled by the DU jury and I'll be taken to task for making this comment, but, screw it.

A "high profile individual" has a lot of mugshots? So, genius, you are telling me that the cops run around taking mugshots of high profile individuals?

Bullshit.

I'm a high profile individual in my rural Virginia County:
-- Captain, Rescue squad
-- Lieutenant, volunteer fire department
-- Chairman, Electoral Board
-- Member, School Board
-- President, American Legion post

I don't have any mug shots.

— July 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and accused of resisting an officer with violence near the University of Central Florida campus after a scuffle with police. The charges were eventually dropped after Zimmerman entered an alcohol education program.

— August 2005, Zimmerman's former fiancee filed for a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman responded by requesting a restraining order against her. Both requests were granted. No criminal charges were filed.

— February 2012, Zimmerman fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin during a confrontation in the community where Zimmerman was a neighborhood watch volunteer. Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder but acquitted after a trial in July 2013.

— July 2013, police in Foley, Texas, stop Zimmerman for speeding in a 60 mph zone. Zimmerman is let go with just a warning.

— September 2013, Zimmerman is stopped by police in Lake Mary, Fla., and given a ticket for doing 60 mph in a 45 mph zone.

— September 2013, Zimmerman's estranged wife, Shellie, dials 911 and tells a police dispatcher that her punched her father and threatened her with a gun. She later decides against pressing charges and authorities announce in November they are dropping the case.

— September 2013, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper stops Zimmerman along Interstate 95 and issues a warning because the vehicle's tag cover and windows were too darkly tinted.

— November 2013, Zimmerman is arrested by Seminole County authorities after a disturbance at a home in Apopka.

-- Late 2014, another charge of domestic violence.

As happens in many cases, domestic violence charges are dropped because the woman (usually a woman) involved decides not to press charges.

But, hey, if George Zimmerman is your hero, that tells us more about you than about Zimmerman.

[daleanime]

21. If I was on a jury for this post....

I wouldn't vote for hide.

[gopiscrap]

34. Good for you!

[NoQuarter]

73. As juror

I would let it stand, too.

[heaven05]

98. Well I see it didn't get to the jury

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that tells me something about.......

[Ramses]

23. Tell us more about our wonderful criminal justice system. Share stories

[nomorenomore08]

50. From one Lou Reed avatar to another...

[tblue37]

25. Connections = no convictions. nt

[jwirr]

26. At least a few of these charges involve abusing a woman who later dropped the charges. That does

not tell me he is innocent. It merely makes me wonder why the woman dropped the charges.

[Skittles]

67. he is a fucking THUG

he STALKED AND MURDERED an unarmed teenager for NO REASON

the fact that he has people who actually BELIEVED his story is SAD AND SICKENING

[bettyellen]

91. People at DU mostly "fail to accept" the inherant racism in policing in this nation- the stats that

show racial profiling is as popular as it ever was.

[heaven05]

97. what is it about

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the murder of unarmed individuals that so many self professed progressives/liberals fail to accept? In america killing unarmed blacks does not make you a criminal neither, right?

[Indydem]

102. He was not convicted.

It wasn't murder it was self defense.

So says the law.

We are a nation of laws, not of mob rule.

Your belief that he is a criminal is no more valid than the lynch mobs of old who hung blacks because they were "criminals."

[heaven05]

103. yep

you're right.....

[heaven05]

99. If I could

today would be my first alert. But I promised myself long ago, when it comes to the free speech rights of the american people, not to censure. You have made me livid and if I ......never mind.

[Vattel]

12. Well, Martin might have assaulted Zimmerman. We will never know.

I know ignorance is intolerable for some. Many on DU claim to know that Zimmerman initiated the violence. I am afraid that Socratic wisdom is rare.

[BrotherIvan]

36. Your opinion is shit

I'm so sick of people like you spouting this ignorant shit I can't stand it anymore. Zimmerman's ACTIONS since he MURDERED Trayvon PROVE that he is a violent sociopath. It PROVES that he was the aggressor as he has been in every encounter since. He is a violent, dangerous man who got away with murder. And your slip is showing.

[busterbrown]

37. You Betcha....

Thanks for a little passion and honesty..

[BrotherIvan]

40. Thanks, the racists always show up on Zimmerman threads

I'm so over it and will not be silent when I see it.

[Skittles]

70. OMG and they're STILL supporting that gun humping piece of SHIT

STUPID ASSHOLES!!!

[nomorenomore08]

46. I've always thought it strained credibility to assume Zimmerman *didn't* initiate the whole

confrontation - especially given his subsequent behavior. Unless one simply assumes all young black men to be violent and aggressive, Zim's version of things seems quite unlikely.

[cpwm17]

51. But the trial had to be based on the evidence in this case

not what one thinks really happened and not what Trayvon Martin's team claimed before the trial.

The physical evidence, the timing, the location of the attack, and the best witness strongly indicates that it was Trayvon that attacked Zimmerman. That is what the jury was faced with.

Are we arbitrarily supposed to disregard the evidence in this case and find Zimmerman guilty? – based on what?: ones feelings?

[nomorenomore08]

53. The case was ambiguous enough that I could understand people being unsure at first.

But as far as Zim's "supporters" that's not exactly what happened. Millions immediately jumped to the man's defense without any particular evidence to support them, based on their own fears and stereotypes RE: black males.

Why would Martin have attacked Zimmerman anyway - unless Zim initiated things and Martin was simply defending himself? Just doesn't seem very credible or rational.

*Edit to add that the prosecution also did a very poor job. That's a likely factor in Zim's acquittal.

[Skittles]

93. Zimmerman's story was RIDICULOUS

SHAME on anyone who bought it, and FUCK the racist assholes who CONTINUE to defend him

[nomorenomore08]

105. It was right out of a bad movie. I can't understand why so many people bought it so readily.

Prejudice really does seem like just about the only explanation.

[Skittles]

106. they bought it readily because it is what they WANTED to hear

there is no way in hell that gun humping paranoid cop wannabe did not produce his weapon, no way in hell

[Skittles]

84. Zimmerman stalked Travyvon for no reason, then pulled a gun to keep him from running

gee, why on earth would Trayvon fight back?

[cpwm17]

86. The first part is correct

if you call following someone in a truck for several blocks "stalking." That clearly creeped TM out, as it would anybody.

There is no evidence at all on your second claim. In fact, the best evidence is that TM attacked GZ, though it is impossible for us to know for sure what happened. We don't know how the physical contact was initially made, though we know that TM was on top of GZ striking GZ, and GZ was calling for help when TM got shot.

[Skittles]

87. why wouldn't you attack an armed stalker?

HE TRIED RUNNING

for people too stupid to see who the thug was in that situation then, THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR NOW - STOP DEFENDING THAT RACIST GUN HUMPING PIECE OF SHIT

[cpwm17]

89. You're making up evidence.

The physical confrontation took place not too far from where the truck was parked, about four minutes after GZ saw TM near the truck during the phone conversation with the police dispatcher. It doesn't sound like TM did a lot of running away.

Most likely, though not provable, TM didn't like some asshole following him in a truck, so TM attacked GZ. Unfortunately for TM, GZ was an asshole with a gun, and it was legitimate self-defense for GZ.

Following people in trucks who you think were suspicious, especially when you can't give a good reason why you think they were suspicious, is not a nice thing to do. But it isn't the crime of the century, or really a crime at all – and it wouldn't give anybody the right to assault anybody else for the behavior.

I don't claim to know how it went down, but there was certainly not enough evidence to convict GZ.

[Skittles]

92. that gun humping thug has to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life

we can only HOPE he doesn't manage to kill another unarmed person for no reason - fuck him AND his defenders

[Vattel]

94. I guess we have to make ourselves stupid so that we can feel certain Zimmerman was the attacker.

I don't claim to know who the attacker was. But to admit my ignorance here gets me called a racist by a host of idiots.

[Skittles]

69. OF COURSE HE DID

Martin fought back when Zimmerman pulled out his phallic symbol

[nomorenomore08]

104. I can't say for sure, but that does seem more likely than "Martin just started wailing on him." n/t

[cwydro]

58. He did not.

you can listen to the police tape and see that the idiot Zimmerman caused the entire thing.... from start to finish.

[Ikonoklast]

61. But not so willful disregard for verifiable fact.

Zimmerman was a violent person before he murdered Trayvon Martin, and has been so afterwards, holding true to form.

He has a history for any and all to see.

Socratic wisdom, indeed. You know nothing of which you speak.

[Jamastiene]

85. No matter how many times Zimmerman is arrested for his violence,

there are still people who blame Trayvon Martin for being murdered. Martin didn't any history of violence. Zimmerman does though and continues to add to it.

[Skittles]

88. CORRECT

GUN HUMPING RACIST COWARDS DEFEND GUN HUMPING RACIST COWARDS

[Skittles]

68. WTF

why WOULDN'T you fight back if someone stalked you for no reason and then produced a weapon - JESUS you Zimmerman supporters make me SICK

[Skittles]

76. EXCELLENT RESPONSE

[backscatter712]

77. I'm more than happy to eat a hide in this case.

Sometimes, it's necessary.

[Skittles]

78. absolutely it is worth a hide to call out gun humping racist pieces of shit

yes INDEED

[cwydro]

90. Ditto.

+ 1000

[uppityperson]

79. Well, Zimmerman might have assaulted Martin. We will never know.

I know ignorance is intolerable for some. Many claim to know that Martin initiated the violence. I am afraid that Socratic wisdom is rare.

[Vattel]

95. I agree!

[Jamastiene]

83. So, have you written your letter of recommendation to give Zimmerman sainthood yet?

Funny how such a good guy like Zimmerman keeps getting arrested for violence over and over and over again.

[heaven05]

100. I can't find

any "Socratic" wisdom in this opinion of yours either. But it has also been "rare" coming from .............

[HERVEPA]

101. That opinion is full of shit.

[Rex]

107. Well what we do no without any doubt, is that Zimmerman is a career criminal now.

So I guess we have to frame that against a innocent boy walking home with skittles and a coke. Framed any other way, knowing what we do now is both dishonorable and disgraceful to the dead son. To anyone with class or an ounce of self respect.

[TRoN33]

13. ...

[C Moon]

15. That says it all!

[etherealtruth]

16. It is absolutely sickening ... but not surprising

[rhett o rick]

18. Whatever happened to the DoJ's investigation? Sorry, rhetorical. nm

[Mugu]

35. I keep wondering why the Martins haven’t filed a civil case against Zimmerman.

Some folks will claim that Zimmerman has nothing to take, so why bother. Well, he might someday win the lottery, or get an inheritance, or sell some artwork, or whatever. A judgment against him would preclude him ever having any excess money. Plus, they (the parents) could claim some sort of victory by citing that at least one jury found Zimmerman guilty for the death of their son.

[nomorenomore08]

45. What is it with psychopathic killers and their love of painting? John Wayne Gacy, Dubya, now Zim...

[Lurks Often]

64. Essentially under Florida law they can not sue Zimmerman since he was found not guilty

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-07-16/news/os-george-zimmerman-civil-immunity-20130716_1_george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-benjamin-crump

If Martin's parents sue and lose, they will owe Zimmerman money.

Given the amount of time that has passed, I'm inclined to think that the attorney representing Martin's parents has advised them that they have little chance of winning.

[billh58]

65. As I understand it, Florida law

precludes the filing of a civil suit when the verdict is "self defense."

[Blue_Tires]

19. kick for truth

[onecaliberal]

20. :

[uponit7771]

22. +1

[flvegan]

27. Apples, meet oranges.

Not being convicted still means something in this country.

[Spider Jerusalem]

30. That the almost-all-white jury browbeat the one juror who wanted to convict into giving up?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/25/george-zimmerman-trial-juror-b29_n_3654183.html

[KitSileya]

38. Not to mention the line of former wives/girlfriends with restraining orders?

A very common thing for abused women to drop charges - they have a better handle of what increases the risk of ending up dead than the average bystander, and pursuing charges is very dangerous to them. Especially now that he has gotten away with murder quite literally, any woman who buys into the GOP crap and gets involved with him only to discover he's an abusing asshole will be very careful about how they extricate themselves from it. Doesn't mean that he isn't a domestic abusing asshole, though.

[Control-Z]

44. Yes, yes, yes.

So well understood. I hope it is not personal experience for you that makes you so spot on. But it's reality. Gawd, when are women going to be protected by default instead men.

[KitSileya]

52. No, I have been lucky.

None of my former boyfriends treated me badly, and now that I am nearing middle age, I am happy alone. I don't have any cats, but I have no problems spending the rest of my life as a so-called crazy cat lady (which, honestly? It's supposed to be negative to live happily ever after with your pets? No one who doesn't want a partner will be happy with one, regardless of how much society tries to convince us that women are worth nothing if they aren't the property of some man or other.)

As for Zimmerman's future victims both domestic and not, I hope he will be stopped before he murders someone else.

[Skittles]

96. it's not luck, KitSileya

men who would abuse women do not date gals like us

I dated for 40 years and never once had a guy hit me - because guys who would abuse women knew if they tried it with me I would get the nearest baseball bat and beat the shit out of them.....they steer clear of women they know would fight back

I am *NOT* victim-blaming here - I know all women are not the same

[uppityperson]

80. So does having multiple DV calls and speeding tickets.

[Ykcutnek]

29. The bastard should have a DOC #. EOT

[JDPriestly]

31. K&R. Never forget.

[charles d]

32. Pissant Wannabe

I still can't believe he's not in prison!

[Initech]

33. George Zimmerman should be doing time in prison.

[nomorenomore08]

43. 10 years for manslaughter, at the least. Plus an enhancement for using a firearm (assuming

Florida law allows for that.)

[bbigrob]

39. Something's Fishy

For all the times that this vile individual has avoided justice, I've concluded that some unseen/unannounced supporter or group is behind enabling his skating so far. By my count three different women have come forward and subsequently dropped charges. That would seem to indicate they have been either threatened or paid off. Some serious investigation should be initiated into these issues before some one else loses life to this sociopath.

[nomorenomore08]

42. He's like a superhero to some folks. Infallible and untouchable. n/t

[nomorenomore08]

41. Ironically, I might cross the street to avoid this man. Even not knowing who he was.

The facial hair sure doesn't help either (and I say that as a bearded guy myself).

[blkmusclmachine]

48. Maybe you should shave it then.

[nomorenomore08]

49. Huh? My post was meant lightheartedly. I certainly didn't meant to upset anyone. n/t

[blkmusclmachine]

47. ,

,

[marble falls]

57. Its almost as if Zimmerman is being groomed to finally go "on a mission".

[RoverSuswade]

59. Hannity still claims Trevon was a pot-smoking thug

who deserved to die. And George was the victim. Hannity is an asshole.

[Skittles]

71. Zimmerman is a gun humping thug

people like Hannity and even a few DUers are GUN HUMPING RACIST ASSHOLES

[Blue Owl]

60. Soon you'll be able to make Travon mosaic portrait out of GZ mugshots

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[Bobbie Jo]

62. K&R

Never forget.

[SpankMe]

63. I can't rec this enough.

About once or twice a year I see/experience a news story that makes me cry. (51 year old, 205 LB male, here.) The Treyvon murder was one such story.

There was a picture in a news story of dead Trayvon, face down in the grass. His arms were under his body because he was holding his drink and candy in his hands when he was felled. Trayvon had about the same build and overall size as my 16 year old son. I could actually see my 16 year old son in that picture. My heart cracked open as I though about his what his parents were feeling - because I think I was feeling something similar.

The injustice is stunning. It makes me want to scream.

[tridim]

66. If I saw Zimmerman on the street I would turn and run away as fast as possible.

Those dead eyes.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

72. Wait for it. Ten bucks or a Toyota....

...we'll have number 7 by the end of the year.

[NoQuarter]

74. I'd bet

by the end of August.