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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 08:00 PM Feb 2015

Dear Dems. You should be proud as hell of Obamacare. Here's 19M reasons why...

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/02/obamacare-will-cover-about-19-million-people-year


Obamacare Will Cover About 19 Million People This Year

—By Kevin Drum
| Wed Feb. 18, 2015 4:52 PM EST


With the signup deadline now past, we have a pretty good idea of how many people will be getting health care coverage via Obamacare in 2015. Here's a rough estimate:

+11.4 million: confirmed signups for private coverage.
-1.8 million: likely attrition rate (nonpayers, dropped coverage, etc.)
+9 million: covered via Medicaid expansion

The Medicaid number will rise throughout the year, and is higher if you use a looser way of counting. Needless to say, it would also be higher if all the holdout states joined in. For now, though, using a strict count just through February, the Obamacare total stands at about 18.6 million people—and will likely rise a bit more thanks to state extensions of the deadline. So call it 19 million or so.

That's a lot of people. If you got into politics to help actual people with actual problems, you should be damn proud of voting for the Affordable Care Act in 2010. No other legislation of at least the past two decades even comes close to its real-world impact.
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Dear Dems. You should be proud as hell of Obamacare. Here's 19M reasons why... (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2015 OP
Your turn GOP C_U_L8R Feb 2015 #1
They probably will, but it's becoming a joke now. nt babylonsister Feb 2015 #4
They'd love to! It's their AGENDA that matters. Not people. calimary Feb 2015 #13
K&R.. So happy for the people who are being covered and here's to "Counting"! mahalo babsis~ Cha Feb 2015 #2
KICK Cha Feb 2015 #3
K&R. n/t FSogol Feb 2015 #5
Well said. Now let's work for that Public Option. Adrahil Feb 2015 #6
And this is an underestimate. Some of the attrition rate is due pnwmom Feb 2015 #7
K&R! Omaha Steve Feb 2015 #8
Something came up last night daredtowork Feb 2015 #9
I don't think it will be that bad. OneCrazyDiamond Feb 2015 #14
it wasn't good enough so the whole thing should be nixed !!!!!!! uponit7771 Feb 2015 #10
You got that right! Hekate Feb 2015 #15
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2015 #11
And that doesn't count the people who could and did buy insurance directly from insurance companies pnwmom Feb 2015 #12
Thanks for this, Babs. Hekate Feb 2015 #16
Take it Further! cynzke Feb 2015 #17
K, R, Bookmarking. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #18
K and R...no text Stuart G Feb 2015 #19
k&r... spanone Feb 2015 #20
My relative needs a heart transplant. MADem Feb 2015 #21
Imagine what it could do if they would ever get to the fix it later part. obxhead Feb 2015 #22
+1 n/t area51 Feb 2015 #23

calimary

(81,281 posts)
13. They'd love to! It's their AGENDA that matters. Not people.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:34 PM
Feb 2015

And they sure aren't interested in anything that helps people.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
6. Well said. Now let's work for that Public Option.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 09:52 PM
Feb 2015

That'll realistically have to wait until Congress changes, but let's start thinking about it and talking it up!

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
7. And this is an underestimate. Some of the attrition rate is due
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:11 PM
Feb 2015

to individuals who moved out of the exchange this year and bought their policy directly from a company, and some is from people who didn't buy insurance last year but bought directly from a company this year.

My son is probably counted in "attrition" because he didn't buy a policy on the exchange; instead, the policy he chose came directly from the company, but with all the benefits required under the ACA. (Since he wasn't getting a subsidy it didn't matter where he bought it and,thanks to the ACA, there are more policies available both on and off the exchanges now.)

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
9. Something came up last night
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:51 PM
Feb 2015

I was at a city budget meeting, and one of the items was allocating part of the city's budget for the medical clinic that covers most of the Medi-Cal patients in the city, including me. The enrollment of this clinic has skyrocketed because of Medi-Cal, and they are expanding. However, someone brought up something about the Affordable Care Act funding changing in three years: the State will no longer receive a block grant from the Federal government, so the the State will no longer match the what the city provides (which the city is already trying to cut).

Am I wrong to see this as a coming disaster? First the clinic will enroll all of the Medi-Cal patients, and then the clinic will lose funding and collapse. The patients will then still have Medi-Cal, but no clinic where they can be seen. A wonderful clinic that has served this community for decades may be ruined to boot (just because they kept taking Medi-Cal patients while they were hoping someone would get real about the need to fund the clinic after this ACA cut off...).

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
14. I don't think it will be that bad.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:39 PM
Feb 2015


100% to 90%

http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/facts/timeline/timeline-text.html


Increasing Access to Medicaid. Americans who earn less than 133% of the poverty level (approximately $14,000 for an individual and $29,000 for a family of four) will be eligible to enroll in Medicaid. States will receive 100% federal funding for the first three years to support this expanded coverage, phasing to 90% federal funding in subsequent years. Effective January 1, 2014.

Hekate

(90,698 posts)
15. You got that right!
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:05 PM
Feb 2015

likewise Now where's the FUD Squad? They usually have a lot to say about how lousy the ACA is and and how the entire American population was thrown under the bus because there's no Single Payer.

19 Million is a lot of folks.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
12. And that doesn't count the people who could and did buy insurance directly from insurance companies
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 06:52 PM
Feb 2015

rather than through the exchanges.

By these numbers, my son appears to be part of the "attrition" -- whereas he really only dropped the exchange policy because he got another one directly from the insurer. And those policies are better now, too, thanks to the ACA.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
17. Take it Further!
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:39 AM
Feb 2015

Since ACA regulates all health insurance, all existing plans (other than grandfathered and self insured plans) including employer group plans are Obamacare. Isolating ACA to the public exchange plans and medicaid enrolles is red meat for the right wing to attack. We need to include all people covered by ACA in the picture. The misinformed/ignorant people tend to think that ACA/Obamacare is confined only to the public exchange.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
22. Imagine what it could do if they would ever get to the fix it later part.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 03:48 PM
Feb 2015

However, the insurance companies have exactly what they wanted, so it doesn't need fixed.

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