Gone too far!

[boston bean]

I'm reading Hillary is weak on women's rights? Attack from the left bullshit.

That kind if ignorant false shit people write to make attacks against a potential nominee is just the most ridiculous shit I've read in a real long time. Slate op eds aren't facts.

For real Hillary is not pro choice? Let's keep it real people. She is 100 percent pro woman and choice.

[hunter]

1. I voted for Clinton in a primary.

She and Obama are competent. I voted for Obama twice in the final elections, above McCain and Romney or any third party candidate.

Oh yeah, and fuck Nader, always,

I'm probably never going to enjoy a U.S.A. president who fully represents my radical leftist self, but competent modern Democrat always kicks ass over any pathetic alternative.

I was born here in white skin cancer U.S.A., entirely by accident. I think I'd have been been much happier with dark skin in a place where people swim nude in the ocean, but clueless autistic spectrum me, I must have been standing in the wrong line as our human souls were being distributed.

[mercuryblues]

2. I thought

the saying was fuck Paul.

At least you got in the line for a soul, unlike repubs.

[Adrahil]

3. For some reason, I LOVE this post n/t

[wyldwolf]

4. I had a similar experience in that line

When looks were being handed out I thought She said 'books' and said 'give me a funny one.'

[hunter]

21. Yeah, I think I heard "books" too.

We have thousands of funny books in the family library.

But the family skin cancers are no fun. My dad had a really horrible one, the doctors cut a big chunk out of him that took two years to heal.

My bare white ass burns easily and I've had too many nasties cut and burned out of my own scalp, face, and arms.

When I was a kid on Southern California beaches "they" thought a "tan" was healthy.

They were wrong.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

14. I always point to Tahiti too....

What are their politics like?



Who cares?

[slumcamper]

22. Fascinating. I simply LUV you. > : ) <

[sheshe2]

5. Politics Hillary Clinton Calls Women's Rights 'Unfinished Business'

Hillary Clinton delivered an impassioned address today, one of her first since leaving the State Department, insisting that the work in America for women's rights and equality is "unfinished business."

In her speech at Newsweek/The Daily Beast's Women in the World Summit, Clinton spoke at length of the rights of women and girls in developing nations, but she also stressed this country has "come so far, but there is still work to be done."

In what could be read by her supporters as a tantalizing hint, Clinton said she "looks forward" to being "a partner" in the fight "in all the days and years ahead."

snip

"Let's keep fighting for opportunity and dignity," she said. "Let's keep fighting for freedom and equality. Let's keep fighting for full participation and let's keep telling the world over and over again that, yes, women rights are human rights, and human rights are women's right once and for all."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-calls-womens-rights-unfinished-business/story?id=18889684

As you stated bean, the attacks are from the left, yet you really have to wonder if they are indeed the left.

[William769]

6. I made that perfectly clear where it needed to be made.

I don't think it did any good though.

And they say it's not hatred, I call BULLSHIT!

[Electric Monk]

9. Here's the thread that you and the OP are refering to, so folks don't have to hunt for it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6245222

[sheshe2]

19. Thanks for the link, I had not seen it.

Lol~ Written by a man, surprise surprise.

I call bullshit!

What China and Romania illustrate is the ugly mechanics of turning anti-abortion morality into law. "Once a month, Romanian women were rounded up … taken to a government-controlled health clinic, told to disrobe while they were standing in line … [and] examined by a government doctor with a government secret police officer watching," Clinton recalled. "In China, local government officials used to monitor women's menstrual cycles and their use of contraceptives." In both cases, "the government was dictating the most private and important decisions," said Clinton. "With all of this talk about freedom as the defining goal of America, let's not forget the importance of the freedom of women to make the choices that are consistent with their faith and their sense of responsibility to their family and themselves."

Note the concluding words: faith, responsibility, family. This is the other side of Clinton's message: against the ugliness of state control, she wants to raise the banner of morality as well as freedom. Pro-choicers have tried this for 40 years, but they always run into a fatal objection: Abortion is so ugly that nobody who supports it can look moral. To earn real credibility, they'd have to admit it's bad. They often walk up to that line, but they always blink.

Not this time. Abortion is "a sad, even tragic choice to many, many women," said Clinton. Then she went further: "There is no reason why government cannot do more to educate and inform and provide assistance so that the choice guaranteed under our constitution either does not ever have to be exercised or only in very rare circumstances."

She is not talking about morality, she is talking about a woman's right to choose.

"With all of this talk about freedom as the defining goal of America, let's not forget the importance of the freedom of women to make the choices that are consistent with their faith and their sense of responsibility to their family and themselves."

Faith. That is a broad term and does not have to mean the church. To a woman, faith is in herself, her body and her mind. She makes the decision that is right for her, and and her families future.

Abortion is "a sad, even tragic choice to many, many women

Yes it is. Not something a man has to has to fret his head about. It is a woman's choice and as Hillary goes on to say, if there were more education and...

You don't have to be against motherhood to line up behind birth control as the best anti-abortion strategy. You just have to be for it.

He twists her words.

[Egnever]

7. Well said!

[cwydro]

8. K and R

I saw that thread.

[Buzz Clik]

10. LOL! Well, when your only tool is a hammer...

[Jamaal510]

11. I've actually heard more from her

than from other would-be 2016 candidates like Warren and Sanders when it comes to women's rights and other social issues. That's funny.

[Cali_Democrat]

24. Yup

It's a pretty weak attack.

[betsuni]

12. I'm not even reading those Beware of Hillary threads

and yet somehow now when I see her name there's a little invisible trail of "war hawk, Wall Street, elitist, corporatist, 3rd way" behind it. Then I slap myself and sweep up the trail of Libertarian propaganda-turds. Now they're trying to add anti-women to it? Can't they crap in their own litter box instead of doing it here?

[spanone]

13. it's so tiring.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

15. I can think of about 21.5 million reasons to not be enthusiastic about Hillary Clinton.

Claiming she is not pro-choice seems too far fetched to merit serious consideration. Assuming she were to secure the nomination, the claim wouldn't even stand-up to scrutiny because the RW would attack her for being "pro-abortion."

Unless someone is planting daisies I see no reason to be spreading this much BS.

[F4lconF16]

29. +1

[el_bryanto]

16. She will be strong on pro-choice and woman's issues

Social issues in general.

I think she will be weak in other areas, though (Wall Street particularly); it's up to every person to determine who they think will best represent their views.

Bryant

[Rex]

17. Someone dug up an article from 10 years ago, really I am more concerned with today how she feels.

And I went an read it and the OP totally misrepresented it, I saw that. I have no doubt HRC is pro-woman all the way.

[jwirr]

18. That bothers me also even though I am not one of her strong supporters. To my knowledge she

has always supported women's issues. And after having a grand daughter if she is like any of the rest of us she will be even stronger.

I also think that she has supported most social issues. It is economic issues like Wall Street, TPP and Keystone XL that I have problems with as well as the fact that she is a hawk.

[treestar]

20. Yea geez isn't the corporatist charge good enough

that they have to make up more stuff that isn't even remotely true?

[cwydro]

23. Kicking again.

Because.

[Scuba]

25. Of course she's pro-women's rights. Why else would Saudi Arabia donate big bucks to her Foundation?

[fredamae]

26. Naw, I don't believe for

a minute....at least without Solid evidence....that she is anti-womens rights.
She has a solid background on that.

My complaints are her long and intimate relationship with "the wrong crowd" from wall street. That's a deal breaker, for me. There is a solid background on this issue as well.
I too, voted for HRC over Obama in the '08 primary.....and then voted for Obama ---twice.

I agree...keep it factual and real as we discuss the upcoming primary's.
Folks are Actively trying to recruit a progressive candidate...but even they must Expand to other viable and Willing potential candidates.

I wonder if the meet up between HRC and Warren last Dec secured Warrens refusal to run for POTUS?

[LWolf]

27. I'm neither reading nor saying that.

Although I certainly haven't read everything on DU.

I don't support her, but not because of her record on women's rights.

I'm over here on the left, and I've got plenty of other issues to attack with.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. I went to the link posted down thread

Of all the cheap, dirty rotten tricks.

If this is what I can expect from the far left then I want nothing to do with them.


That is beyond - just beyond.