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sheshe2

(83,784 posts)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:27 PM Feb 2015

Black History |The Slave Trade | Conditions on Slave Ships

**********************Trigger Warning for the Videos****************************



How the slaves were “packed”

There are two ways for the captains to load their boats with slaves. One system is called loose packing to deliver slaves. Under that system, captains transported fewer slaves than their ships could carry in order to reduce the disease and deaths among them. The other system is the cruelest one and is called tight packing. This system was based on the fact that the more slaves they had, the more profit they could make. They carried as many slaves as their ship could carry, and often more. In the ship’s hold, the slaves were chained ankle to wrist, with barely any place to move.

Sanitary/hygiene

In the worse case, the captains did not provide any kinds of hygiene. In other boats, the captains placed buckets for the slaves’ excrements, but there was never one bucket per slave. Slaves who were close to the buckets used it but those who were farther away often tumbled and fell on others while trying to reach it. Severely hindered by the shackles that were tightly secured around their ankles, most slaves preferred to ease themselves where they were rather than to bruise themselves in the process of trying to reach it. Also, some sailors would be ordered to go below deck to wash the slaves briefly. Although the crew avoided the slaves, they often would call a woman on deck to satisfy their desires. When weather conditions were bad, the conditions of the quarters dramatically worsened. The slaves’ holding quarters were so hot and humid that the floor of their rooms was covered with layers of filth during most of the voyage.




Death

Suicide attempts occurred daily and in painfully cruel ways. Slaves tried jumping overboard and even asked others to strangle them. One of the most common ways to avoid further punishment on the journey was to avoid eating. Starvation suicide attempts became so common that a device was introduced to forcefully open the mouths of slaves who refused to eat. Slaves believed that their death would return them to their homeland and to their friends and relatives. To prevent slaves from killing themselves, sailors began chopping the heads off of corpses, implying that when they died, they would return to their homes headless. Even with precautions taken to avoid suicide attempts like drowning and starvation, many healthy and well-fed slaves died from what was known as “fixed melancholy.”

Fixed melancholy: A loss of the desire to live.



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Mister Ed

(5,935 posts)
2. I've often thought to myself: modern African-Americans are the sons and the daughters...
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:53 PM
Feb 2015

...of the strongest people who ever lived.

The sons and the daughters of the ones who were strong enough in body, soul, and spirit to somehow - somehow - survive this, and more, generation after generation.

sheshe2

(83,784 posts)
3. Mister Ed.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:12 AM
Feb 2015

You just won this thread. Well said, because indeed they have, generation after generation still fighting and somehow surviving.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
5. I think that we need a national museum about slavery.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:43 AM
Feb 2015

Especially since we are long since past any living memory of slavery in this country. I have actually heard white people say that slavery wasn't so bad, and I told them they should try it, then comment.

I cannot begin to imagine the physical and psychological strength it must have taken to survive the slave ships. I think that every single person in this country who has any slave ancestry should be very cognizant of incredibly strong their ancestors were. My grandparents merely survived the Irish famine and then, a generation or so later, came to this country. Yeah, they knew hard times, and we should NEVER be comparing one group with another, but still, my ancestors did not survive the slave ships.

sheshe2

(83,784 posts)
6. SheilaT
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:11 AM
Feb 2015

You need to post more here in GD, I know it can be ugly. Yet....

PoC are being are being run off this board by exactly what you stated. It is happening here. So much stupidity and hate and malice and hell yes racism.

" I have actually heard white people say that slavery wasn't so bad"


It is here, I have read it. Some threads joking about watermelons.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. I do post what I think is a lot, although
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:58 AM
Feb 2015

my count is relatively small, considering how long I've been here.

I've been banned from one forum, the Hillary Rah Rah forum, although they don't call it that I cheerfully post things that I know are quite unpopular here, meaning on various places on DU.

And in that vein, I want to say, quite unlike the Hillary Rah Rah folks, the gun folks put up with me quite kindly, even though I go on record as saying I think guns should be confiscated. Now, I'm not expecting you agree with me on this, or any other topic, but I want to say here that the gun folks, while quite opposed to my opinions, have never banned me, which says wonderful things about their tolerance of diverse opinions. I've even gone there to thank them, which they deserve.

I know that I can say very unpopular things, and I've been trying lately not to post unless I have something useful to contribute to the thread. I don't always succeed, and of course what I think is useful someone else may think is disruptive. Overall, I like DU, I like the give and take here.

And I don't bother to follow specific forums. When I come here I simply start looking at Latest Threads, and just respond to posts there. Which has often gotten me into trouble as I don't often pay attention to which forum something comes from. But I am very opinionated, and I don't hesitate to express those opinions here.

Maybe it's my age. I'm 66, and I've been through lots of stuff. I will say that the people who expressed the opinion that slavery wasn't so bad were about 20 years younger than I am (this was nearly 10 years ago), living in South Carolina, and of course those things all factored in.

I was born in Northern NYS, then moved to Tucson when I was 14. At age 20 I moved to the DC area, which was the first time in my life I was in the presence of significant numbers of African Americans. I will confess, somewhat ashamedly, of somewhat typical White prejudices, but I have had the benefit over the years of having good friends who are African American, who have been willing to speak to me about race and racial issues, and I am eternally grateful to them. The first, and in some ways the best, was a man named Ray Williams, a co-worker from 1969-1972, and he gently set me straight about any number of things. I am fortunate that he recognized in me a simple ignorance and lack of experience, and didn't hold those things against me, and so I learned certain basic things about race in this country.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
11. Here's a "some slaves were treated well" type comment from one of my recent threads:
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:26 AM
Feb 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6233016

The good thing is that it was met with a very hostile response.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. Yes, it is shocking that there is no National Slavery Museum,
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:32 AM
Feb 2015

along the lines of the National Holocaust Museum. Just as visitors to the latter are randomly assigned an actual victim and get to follow what happens to him or her, a similar setup could be used in a slavery museum where visitors could follow the life of someone transported or born into slavery. It would be powerful and horrific, as it should be.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
8. Oh I read right here on DU that it wasn't all bad.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:27 AM
Feb 2015

Good slave owners and such. You know, the ones who were "compassionate" to the folks who they deprived of all (but one) of their human rights.

The owners of slaves were just victims of the era in which they lived and it should not be held against their accomplishments. These are mere foibles and flaws of character.

Maybe the stories my family handed down were just embellished bullshit.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
9. it was never taught in school; I first learned about loose packing and tight packing from the
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 05:08 AM
Feb 2015

mini-series ROOTS.

It should be required watching in every history class in every school!

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
14. There is another mini series airing right now in fact called "Book of Negros"
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:30 PM
Feb 2015

Should be mandatory viewing for every white person in America....

polly7

(20,582 posts)
16. I have such a hard time looking at these pictures and reports of
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 08:56 PM
Feb 2015

what these people went through. It's almost unbelievable to me that anyone calling themselves human could treat another this way. It's just stunning and heartbreaking. As someone else said, they must have been the strongest people on the planet to have survived this (those who did). Awful, awful, awful ...

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
17. I read a book that gave me nightmares called "The Slave Ship"
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:04 PM
Feb 2015

The horrors that I knew of, such as in your post, don't even begin to scratch the surface of the story. I still have nightmares just thinking about it. The depths of cruelty I cannot imagine. My brain can't even hold it, let alone live it. I have no doubt that some people just stopped wanting to live.

All for money...

The image that is on the video, the drawing of slaves packed in the holds of ships, it what started the abolition movement in Europe. One image was so powerful. It was people who stood up and risked their lives to show it was wrong, black and white, that must not be forgotten.



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