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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/17/1364985/-One-of-the-millions-of-Republicans-could-lose-Obamacare-has-a-question-for-her-nbsp-governorMeet one of the millions of white, employed Southerners who are most likely to lose health insurance if the Supreme Court strikes down the part of Obamacare that provides financial help to customers buying on the federal exchange. She's Erin Meredith, a 37-year-old fifth generation Republican in Texas, who was opposed to Obamacare as just another government handout, she told The Washington Post. Then she got divorced and lost her health insurance. Her job doesn't offer insurance. She was also diagnosed with a rare blood disorder that was leaving her with headaches and fatigue and potentially life-crippling medical bills. At a friend's urging, she checked out Healthcare.gov. For $89 a month, she has coverage.
She has an important question of her state's political leadership in the event the Supreme Court rules against her.
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)Tell her she will keep her coverage, it's only other, lesser, perhaps dark-skinned people, who will lose their coverage. She's a republican, she will believe it and be happy about it.
sorechasm
(631 posts)"Don't get sick. If you do, die quickly so as not to become a burden to hard-working 'Muricans'."
She lost her status when she got sick. Fat chance any GOP politician will acknowledge her.
I feel for her.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Orrex
(63,214 posts)She supports his efforts to cut federal spending, but not if it's going to affect her.
Believe me, I sympathize with her plight, but it would be nice if her circumstances opened her eyes to the realities facing millions upon millions of people who aren't 5th-Gen Texas Republicans.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)If it happens to her, maybe she'll wake up if she's still alive next election.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)as long as he hates queers and baby-killers enough.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Republicans can't seem to figure this shit out unless they are personally affected, which simply means they could give a shit about anyone but themselves.
Cha
(297,275 posts)unfortunately the perfect storm happened and she needed it. And, it happens all too many times to too many people.
Best to know what you're sniffing your nose at because you take repub pols and pundits at their word.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)she is that "undeserving them" that she cheered, loudly, when "they" were talking about affecting when "we put the federal government back in its place."
Funny how it works when the music stops and one finds themselves without a chair.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)It can happen to anyone.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)while in Grad School arguing that the conservative ideology is fundamentally incompatible with (social) justice because of conservatism's focus on "deservedness." I went on to distinguish conservative from liberalism, as follows (summarizing):
It is a core recognition among liberals that "Bad things happen to good people"; in other words, sh!t happens ("anti-deservedness" . This core belief is selfishly manifested in the liberal's desire to establish and maintain (and pay for through shared taxation) a robust social safety net ... just in case they fall victim to that sh!t happening.
On the other hand, Conservatives do not hold that belief; quite the contrary, the conservative belief in "deservedness" holds that good things are earned through clean living, industriousness, and good decision making, and/but bad things are also earned through the lack of clean living, industriousness, good decision making. Therefore, conservatives refuse to allow themselves to see their needing a social safety net because it would be an admission that they, personal, could fail at the clean living, industriousness, and good decision making that purchases the good stuff. This manifests in their refusal to want any form of social safety net ... and a view that shared taxation is a poor decision, as it will go to the undeserving and detracts from their individual ability to benefit from the fruits of their clean living, industriousness, and good decision making.
(I realize this is a jumbled mess with run on sentences and unexplained gaps ... I'm writing this while in a hurry. I hope people will understand what I'm am saying)
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)And a very interesting idea at that. Well written, thank you.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Veil of Ignorance Theory of Justice (http://www.law-review.mk/pdf/07/Hristina%20Runcheva.pdf)... and I was hooked, as it put to words what I had struggled for decades to articulate.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)and explains why conservatives, when suddenly faced with adversity, are so utterly clueless. I know people who are right wing republicans and receive every government benefit available to them because, somehow, they are worthy but others aren't.
Hard for me to sympathize when bad thing happen to conservatives. I don't believe in karma, but every now and then, it feels good to see a condescending conservative smacked in the face with reality
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Ineeda
(3,626 posts)Saw a quote recently: "Privilege is when you think something is not a problem because it's not a problem to you personally." This goes across the board for all we've been fighting for. I've known many anti-choice women who become quietly and desperately (and often temporarily) pro-choice when they or their daughter or sister or their best friend have the need of an abortion. All help, of any kind, is scorned until they, themselves, need it. I'm sick to death of these cruel and selfish people.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I call her an old friend because I wouldn't be friends with her today if we didn't have such a long past together.
She was all anti-Obama/Democrats/liberal ANYTHING...until she lost her job. She had benefits for 6 months and was smug about finding another job quickly. But she had no idea how difficult that would prove to be. She did temp jobs for almost a year and had no benefits.
She turned to Obamacare and proclaimed it loud and proud.
Didn't sway her on much else but at least she stopped hissing.
She did find a new job with a crazy good health plan so I wonder how long it will be before she's back to the I-got-mine attitude.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)she was loudly opposed to any and everything liberal; but mostly, the federal government's interference in private businesses (regulation - hiss, hiss) and "ObumaCare (hiss, hiss)" ... until she was diagnosed with breast cancer and she had to threaten a lawsuit (at this liberal's urging) for her employer's refusal to provide her with Family Medical Leave (a federal protection).
And then, again, when at the 12 week and one day mark, when she lost her job (and health care insurance), she was able to access insurance through "ObumaCare", at significantly less than she was paying through COBRA.
And how, again, when she is engaged in a lawsuit (in federal court) because her former employer refused to hire her back into an advertised position (that was exactly what she had been doing for the company before her illness) because, " they) need someone they can count on being there long-term ... who knows when (her) cancer might return?"
Now, she is an activist for liberal causes. (I welcomed her into the boat ... and didn't even remind her that if left to her pre-conversion mindset, there wouldn't be a boat to climb in to.)
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)She absolutely has not pieced together that she is that "undeserving them". She thinks she deserves it, but others don't. She still undoubtedly believes that other programs, that she doesn't happen to need now, should be cut -- those are for moochers and the 47% Takers.
And then after her care is cut, she'll STILL vote Republican.
Vinca
(50,276 posts)Putting Washington "back in its place" means no benefits for average people. "Back in its place" means "operating for the corporations."
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Even if he was a wife-beating, cheating, drunk gambler! If she had just stayed in her place, she'd still have coverage!" --- Her fellow heartless republicans
It's so easy to be a Republican when everything is going great.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)No sarcasm
Scuba
(53,475 posts)mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)FLSurfer
(431 posts)She still doesn't get it.
In her little mind she still elevates herself above "them".
I wish her luck, with her critical thinking skills, she'll need it.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)she hasn't connected that the subsidy that she received that made her health insurance affordable IS "government assistance" ... And so is the program that allowed her, with a pre-existing condition, to get insurance in the first place.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Volaris
(10,271 posts)Synonymous with THINKING class.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)What she is forgetting is that when she has the deduction taken out of her pay check if she works that money is HER's in MEDICARE and SS, ABBOT and his crew wants to privatize this for outright greed, maybe she should wake-up and really start smelling the coffee and what the republicans in her party are doing to her and its not in her interests and she will probably keep voting against her own interests----go figure
And now that she has seen the everlasting light she should have asked this twit governor why not support a single payer system to really drive down the costs from the insurance companies.
Support and put Washington back in its place, she is the government and just may she should re-read the Constitution and the Pre-Amble, where it basically says that the government is suppose to support the general welfare, prosperity , establish justice for its people not just for the few.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)She didn't care until it mattered to her.
Is there some kind of unempathetic greed gene in the GOP or what?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)irisblue
(32,980 posts)I am so sorry, so sorry but your vote chose this. I wish you hadn't done this, but you chose this. elections have consequences
Roland99
(53,342 posts)ME! ME! ME! ME!
negoldie
(198 posts)She is the epitome of I got mine and to hell with you. Not to wish ill....well to wish some ill, she needs to learn critical thinking skills before she blows BS out of her piehole. She doesn't deserve health care if she doesn't understand the struggle it took to get it. BTW even with insurance she may find herself in the same position I'm in: cancer and chemo is costly and time consuming. Two days a week and at least a 100k in debt. Now stick that in her piehole and see what BS she spits out.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)This post makes me sick. She was opposed to the ACA, and then takes full advantage of something she didn't approve in the first place? WOW. And if Obama had another term, I guarantee she'd still vote against him. I too have zero tolerance for these ignorant, stupid people. If she loses the ACA, and thinks she'll only pay $220 a month, dream on.
Your monthly payment is based on income. If she surpasses 31K a year for a single person, (62K for a couple) she will have to pay the full price for insurance. For me and my wife, if we didn't have the ACA, we'd be paying 1240 a month, and that's for a bronze plan. Which mean no health care insurance, as no one can afford that. Just think though, she'd save the 2k in penalties too. LMAO
God, these people are so fricking stupid. They keep watching the lies on FAUX news and are completely brain washed. I don't feel sorry for these people at all.
LeftinOH
(5,354 posts)mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)spent a lot of time there, you can only imagine. I've done both, and believe me, it's all propaganda all the time. It's a mindset like no other in America with a few closely gerrymandered, tiny pockets of Democrats. Compared to now, the Texas I lived in was far more progressive.
Hard to believe, this is the state that gave us Jim Hightower, Molly Ivins (gone but NEVER forgotten,) LBJ, Barbara Jordan, Anne Richards, Wendy Davis, the Castro brothers, and many more voices for truth and progress.
I love and admire every Texas progressive who has the courage and fortitude to live there. I never could again. I don't even like to visit. Hell, I don't even think I belong in America anymore.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)DUgosh
(3,056 posts)She'll be able to protect herself and family with that.
paleotn
(17,930 posts)....but using the old "if you don't give me needed medical care, I'll shoot your ass" probably won't get her very far in a hospital ER. Though I have actually seen that at least threatened.
paleotn
(17,930 posts)...I guess if they're not benefiting from it, it's a handout. If they are it's a god given right.
Much of this, particularly when it comes to voting against one's best interests, is rooted in southern social stratification. To this day we're still struggling with that antebellum bullshit. Those who think they work for all that they have, whether they actually do or not, naturally look down on minorities and those who find themselves dependent on government assistance. After all, if you're not "better" than those other, who are you better than? As though one actually NEEDS to be better than anyone else. It's a replacement for the now less acceptable racial cast system. Though that is by no means completely dead anywhere in America.
I so wish we could cut this cast crap out of our culture like a cancer, but unfortunately it's not that easy. It is incredibly difficult to get these unfortunate people, brainwashed by generations of cultural bullshit, to realize they will NEVER be like the monied interests they ally themselves with and are really in the same economic boat as those they look down upon. Until they realize in mass that they have far more in common economically with the overtly exploited, little will change down here economically or politically.
And don't get me started about southern fundigelical religion. Unlike some more enlightened denominations, it's simply a tool of cultural control, not spiritual upliftment. It's just one more method to split apart those who if united might threaten the status quo of economic exploitation, both soft and hard.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)She protests that she's not going on exotic vacations or buying designer handbags. Okay, I get that. She's trying to be a wise steward of her meager resources. But the clear implication is that she thinks other people in her financial straits are indeed going to Cancun or buying Michael Kors bags, so they don't "deserve" the same benefit that she's taking for herself.
Ms. Meredith also continues to support the notion of putting Washington "back in its place." I wonder what, exactly, she means by that? Did she harbor the same sentiment 10 years ago? I would guess she didn't think that the Washington of George W. Bush had to be put back in its place. Fortunately, because it's never about race, I'm pretty sure Ms. Meredith isn't talking about the President's race. But what is it she means when she says that Washington has to be put back in its place???
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)ananda
(28,865 posts)This woman is an example of a crazy idiot rightwinger
who thinks Reeps will actually listen to her on an issue
that they cannot and will not endorse... you know,
expecting a human outcome from a sociopath.
Give me a break!
herding cats
(19,565 posts)These are the types of questions which should have been addressed to the candidate Abbot, not Governor Abbot. She bought the schtick and the lies when she should have been looking deeper to how his ideologies and policies were going to effect her daily life.
I'm sorry to say, but she got what she voted for and she's going to have to deal with the consequences of her vote. This is the harsh reality of many of the voters such as Ms Meredith.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)It's gonna sting at first, but then you'll feel much better.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)"I understand and support his efforts to put Washington back in its place."
Lady, you and the rest of the republicans in TX and the entire rest of the country have stage IV cancer of the mind and of the soul. You either want the government out of your life or you don't. Please take the lead in "putting Washington in its place" by refusing the subsidized healthcare. You and the kids may die, but at least Hate Radio will laud your refusal to bow to Big Government.
I really despise Republicans.