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still_one

(92,216 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:45 AM Feb 2015

New York Post Puts A Blindfold On Obama In Outrageous Front Page

"The New York Post's front page blasted President Barack Obama on Thursday for not using phrases such as "Islamic terror" to describe militant groups like ISIS."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/new-york-post-obama-blindfold_n_6710814.html

The president explained to these idiots that ISIS and other terrorist groups do not represent Islam.

Of course the media doesn't get comprehend the distinction.

I would like to see a headline that says, "racist media distorts the facts again".


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New York Post Puts A Blindfold On Obama In Outrageous Front Page (Original Post) still_one Feb 2015 OP
They don't represent Islam YarnAddict Feb 2015 #1
+1 TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #5
Then it would be appropriate to refer to Baruch Goldstein as a "Jewish terrorist", and Meir Kahane still_one Feb 2015 #7
+1. This is only an issue because Obama (and team) decided to start the practice of not saying it. Dawgs Feb 2015 #15
Yes....if they're called Islamic terrorists rather than terrorists Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #22
it appears our media is promoting a holy war. spanone Feb 2015 #2
BBC Radio calls them radical Islamists TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #4
And if Obama also called them radical Islamists.... Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #23
It's what they are. TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2015 #24
Actually, he isn't spending much time on it Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #27
What if Obama has a reason which cannot be disclosed for... JaneyVee Feb 2015 #3
Of course, it's a Murdoch rag C_U_L8R Feb 2015 #6
Well, the NYP doesn't represent Journalism either n/t n2doc Feb 2015 #8
Why do they get outraged over Obama not saying "Islamic terror", but not saying "Sunni terror"? ck4829 Feb 2015 #9
Your distinction is appropriate, but I suspect the media intentionally does still_one Feb 2015 #10
Labelling games are ludicrous. The focus on solutions and not labelling is giving Fox a sad. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #12
Rupert Murdoch wants a Holy War....just like ISIS does...who is the most dangerous enemy? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #11
It looks that way, and that's what ISIS wants fadedrose Feb 2015 #14
The Post should look into what ISIS really wants.. fadedrose Feb 2015 #13
Based on that logic, we should call the Ku Klux Klan Christian terrorists. muntrv Feb 2015 #16
Actually that is the problem, selective labeling still_one Feb 2015 #17
i've seen outrageous NY Post covers Enrique Feb 2015 #18
I think it is the implication that he turns a blind eye toward terrorism still_one Feb 2015 #19
Is it Islamic? Yes. Is it terrorist? Yes. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #20
there is a good strategic reason not to say it Enrique Feb 2015 #21
The New York Post is to journalism what arsenic is to nutrition. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #25
so there is no safe level guillaumeb Feb 2015 #26
 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
1. They don't represent Islam
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 09:52 AM
Feb 2015

But they are terrorizing, burning, and beheading in the name of their brand of Islam. It is not out of line to call them "Islamic terrorists." See this article in the Atlantic: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/?fb_ref=Default

still_one

(92,216 posts)
7. Then it would be appropriate to refer to Baruch Goldstein as a "Jewish terrorist", and Meir Kahane
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:21 AM
Feb 2015

along with the Kach political party?

However, that is not how our media described it at the time. They described him as a mass murderer, and part of an extremist group, but never used the word "Jewish terrorist"

In actuality it is probably appropriate in both cases, as long as the distinction is made that they do not represent the mainstream religion





 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
15. +1. This is only an issue because Obama (and team) decided to start the practice of not saying it.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:15 AM
Feb 2015

Muslims are adults and get the difference between Islam and Islamic terrorists/extremists.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
22. Yes....if they're called Islamic terrorists rather than terrorists
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:47 PM
Feb 2015

We could declare victory and go home.



Who the fuck cares what they're called.

Terrorists are terrorists.

Obama is dropping bombs on them. Will the bombs suddenly kill more terrorists if Obama refers to them as Islamic terrorists?

This whole thing is fucking stupid. It's right wing bullshit that means nothing.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
24. It's what they are.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:57 PM
Feb 2015

He doesn't have to use the term, but it's ridiculous to spend so much time denying it, as well.

Imo, of course.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
27. Actually, he isn't spending much time on it
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 05:26 PM
Feb 2015

It's the right wingers who are so focused on this inane bullshit.

It means nothing.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. What if Obama has a reason which cannot be disclosed for...
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:04 AM
Feb 2015

Not calling it Islamic terrorism? Perhaps he knows something we don't know.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
6. Of course, it's a Murdoch rag
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:18 AM
Feb 2015

He'll do any sleazy stunt to make money
off of sucker conservatives and halfwits.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
9. Why do they get outraged over Obama not saying "Islamic terror", but not saying "Sunni terror"?
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:33 AM
Feb 2015

Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, any of the groups in Africa, etc. are all Sunni fundamentalists, and they actually despise Shia Muslims. And really, every group that the US has or has had a direct boots on the ground conflict with since 2001 is a hardline Sunni group.

Shia Islam is used as the ideology in only a couple of recognized terrorist groups, Hezbollah for example.

There are also absolutely no known terrorist groups that use Sufi Islam as the ideological backing, nor any smaller schools of Islamic thought.

Just find it strange they don't pay any attention to that level of what is going on, and it seems like they are just looking at the lowest common denominator.

still_one

(92,216 posts)
10. Your distinction is appropriate, but I suspect the media intentionally does
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:41 AM
Feb 2015

Not want to make that distinction

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
13. The Post should look into what ISIS really wants..
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 10:48 AM
Feb 2015

The President could provide us with more facts (and he speaks today and may give more), but their printing that he's lying about what he said is so wrong.

still_one

(92,216 posts)
17. Actually that is the problem, selective labeling
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:50 AM
Feb 2015

Bill Maher talks out of both sides of his mouth when he does his labels, and the weakest argument he uses is that Chritians haven't done it sine the crusade which is not correct. Your example is one of many.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
18. i've seen outrageous NY Post covers
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:51 AM
Feb 2015

that isn't one of them.

Unless I'm missing something, what is outrageous about putting a blindfold on him?

still_one

(92,216 posts)
19. I think it is the implication that he turns a blind eye toward terrorism
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:39 PM
Feb 2015

because he doesn't condemn Islam

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
20. Is it Islamic? Yes. Is it terrorist? Yes.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:27 PM
Feb 2015

That is plain language describing what it is. To deny that, is to blindfold oneself.

It's trivial, the point wasn't worth making, it doesn't change reality. At the same time, making a point out of THAT is trivial too. Don't we have bigger fish to fry?

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
21. there is a good strategic reason not to say it
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:45 PM
Feb 2015

Obama put it well in his speech at the summit "ISIS is desperate for legitimacy". Obama's word choice is about a strategy to defeat ISIS.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
26. so there is no safe level
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 05:19 PM
Feb 2015

of Post exposure?

Conservatives do not do nuance well. Every threat is an existential threat, whether bird flu, H1N1 virus, measles, Islam, impotence, Communists, male pattern baldness,you name it. All need screaming headlines by the print media and breathless, dramatic talking heads for broadcast media.

Until the next "greatest" threat comes along.

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