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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:09 AM Feb 2015

Angry Indian bride marries wedding guest

An Indian bride has married a guest at her wedding after her groom-to-be had a seizure and collapsed.

Reports said the groom, Jugal Kishore, was epileptic and he had kept the information from the bride, Indira, and her family.

While Mr Kishore was taken to hospital, the angry bride decided to switch husbands.

She asked a member of her brother-in-law's family, who was a guest, to step in and marry her instead. He agreed.

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-31519551

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Angry Indian bride marries wedding guest (Original Post) Turborama Feb 2015 OP
All things considered, she married the best man. nt Xipe Totec Feb 2015 #1
Good one.. whathehell Feb 2015 #5
and then he called the cops Enrique Feb 2015 #2
I think Mr. Kishore dodged a bullet. HappyMe Feb 2015 #3
I agree but the woman should have been informed before the wedding. OregonBlue Feb 2015 #4
He should have been informed HappyMe Feb 2015 #6
Do you lie to your wife about longterm health-problems that send you to hospital? DetlefK Feb 2015 #8
I have a husband. HappyMe Feb 2015 #11
You are presuming it was a love marriage. In an arranged marriage, what reason pnwmom Feb 2015 #14
I am presuming nothing of the sort. HappyMe Feb 2015 #16
Then you don't understand an arranged marriage. An arranged marriage is a contract, with details like pnwmom Feb 2015 #17
It's still a crappy thing to do. HappyMe Feb 2015 #18
Yes, I'd feel exactly the same if the prospective bride in an arranged marriage pnwmom Feb 2015 #21
I can agree with her not going through with the marriage treestar Feb 2015 #41
I'm pleased that she actually chose whom she married CreekDog Feb 2015 #42
Something like 90% of marriages in India are arranged riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #23
Exactly. Parents arrange the marriages. LisaL Feb 2015 #35
I've talked to someone from India about these arranged marriages, whathehell Feb 2015 #37
THis article describes how its done. LisaL Feb 2015 #39
I've seen those classifieds close and personal.. whathehell Feb 2015 #40
Yes and given that epilepsy is a serious condition, she should have been informed. OregonBlue Feb 2015 #20
I've had two relatives who've had seizures. You are right; they're not to be taken lightly. pnwmom Feb 2015 #22
These are arranged marriages - and this one was arranged by lying by omission. Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #27
Yes, I do feel a sorry for the bridegroom with epilepsy whathehell Feb 2015 #7
There is at least one type of childhood epilepsy that most kids grow out of. pnwmom Feb 2015 #31
Okay, whathehell Feb 2015 #32
Yes, I do. pnwmom Feb 2015 #34
Thanks again for this info.. whathehell Feb 2015 #36
I'd be happy to talk to you, whathehell. pnwmom Feb 2015 #38
Looke like Catherine Hagel has her next RomCom! n/t Yavin4 Feb 2015 #9
Uh... shenmue Feb 2015 #10
"Hey you. C'mere." lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #12
Wow, hope she snagged the right one... giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #13
She was probably able to swap an arranged marriage for a more romantic one. pnwmom Feb 2015 #15
Agreed. She knew her BIL obviously and seized the opportunity while she had it riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #26
It does! pnwmom Feb 2015 #28
Reminds me of a Jerry Seinfeld bit. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #19
Sounds Like a Delightful Romantic Bollywood Comedy Stallion Feb 2015 #24
Marry in haste, repent at leisure n2doc Feb 2015 #25
In this case, she married someone she probably knew and liked better. pnwmom Feb 2015 #29
I hope the best for Mr. Kishore polly7 Feb 2015 #30
In her defense, a wedding dress is really expensive. Glassunion Feb 2015 #33
her family probably paid for the entire wedding too CreekDog Feb 2015 #43

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
2. and then he called the cops
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:12 AM
Feb 2015
Local police official Ram Khiladi Solanki told the BBC that Mr Kishore and his family were initially upset and lodged a complaint with the police.

"But since the bride is already married now, what can anyone do? So the families have resolved the matter and the complaint has been withdrawn," he added.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
8. Do you lie to your wife about longterm health-problems that send you to hospital?
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:32 AM
Feb 2015

Why not? If she loves you, she will understand!

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
11. I have a husband.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:34 AM
Feb 2015

No, neither of us have any health problems.

Maybe he should have told her. I don't think that excuses her hideous behavior or shallowness.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
14. You are presuming it was a love marriage. In an arranged marriage, what reason
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:41 AM
Feb 2015

would there have been for her to go through with it?

His health would have been considered paramount; also his earning capacity. Arranged marriages are like business affairs. They wouldn't have viewed each other as soul mates.

"The young bride, angry that her family had been kept in the dark about Kishore's medical condition, promptly changed her mind and announced that she would happily marry at the same ceremony a guest at the wedding, a man called Harpal Singh. The latter, incidentally, turned out to be her sister's brother-in-law.

Singh, caught unawares and dressed in jeans and a leather jacket, fumbled for a moment before declaring he would willingly take Indira as his wife. This time the "varmala" was exchanged between Singh and Indira, which went off without any hitch, with the pandit reciting the mantras and asking the new couple to take the seven "pheras".

Meanwhile, Kishore, who had been rushed to a doctor by his relatives, went back to the venue after he regained consciousness to see that his wife-to-be was now someone else's."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Bareilly/Groom-unwell-bride-weds-guest-in-fit-of-rage/articleshow/46277810.cms

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
16. I am presuming nothing of the sort.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:46 AM
Feb 2015

What about her earning capacity? If it was an arranged marriage, wouldn't she have to wait to arrange another marriage rather than just marry whomever.

I don't think there is any excuse for her petulant, shallow behavior. He's well rid of her.

Would you have the same attitude if it were the bride with epilepsy and the groom did this?

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
17. Then you don't understand an arranged marriage. An arranged marriage is a contract, with details like
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:53 AM
Feb 2015

health and financial matters carefully vetted. He broke the contract when he lied about his health.

And she didn't "marry whomever." In choosing the brother of her sister's husband, she chose a man her family knew well. Her family didn't object, and neither did the groom.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Bareilly/Groom-unwell-bride-weds-guest-in-fit-of-rage/articleshow/46277810.cms

"Singh, caught unawares and dressed in jeans and a leather jacket, fumbled for a moment before declaring he would willingly take Indira as his wife. This time the "varmala" was exchanged between Singh and Indira, which went off without any hitch, with the pandit reciting the mantras and asking the new couple to take the seven "pheras".

"Meanwhile, Kishore, who had been rushed to a doctor by his relatives, went back to the venue after he regained consciousness to see that his wife-to-be was now someone else's."

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
18. It's still a crappy thing to do.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:56 AM
Feb 2015

Would your attitude have been the same if it was the bride with epilepsy?
After all, fully vetted and what not.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
21. Yes, I'd feel exactly the same if the prospective bride in an arranged marriage
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:01 PM
Feb 2015

hid a serious medical condition from the prospective groom.

You're seeing this through American eyes -- not through those of people who live with arranged marriages. These marriages are family business matters, not individual love matches. Love for the couple is expected to develop over time.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. I can agree with her not going through with the marriage
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:40 AM
Feb 2015

It was arranged, and so the medical condition should have been revealed.

But marrying another guy right then and there was the real shallow thing to do.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
23. Something like 90% of marriages in India are arranged
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:09 PM
Feb 2015

They're business deals.

The two families (parents) had already worked out the marriage deal for the bride and groom. In their eyes, substituting a groom is of little consequence since the deal has already been made between the Families.

The groom was in the wrong for not disclosing a serious medical condition that could have potentially problematic consequences for the other partner in the "deal", his bride.

These aren't love matches. They're business contracts.


LisaL

(44,973 posts)
35. Exactly. Parents arrange the marriages.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:22 PM
Feb 2015

It's not a love match. It's a business deal. Given that, epilepsy could very well be a deal breaker.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
37. I've talked to someone from India about these arranged marriages,
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:39 PM
Feb 2015

and he said "You have to like each other", so I'm not sure if it's quite

that cold and business like.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
39. THis article describes how its done.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:46 PM
Feb 2015

Parents arrange marriages through newspaper ads. Socio economic status appears to be of most importance.

"So he gave up on the American dating scene and turned to tradition, asking his parents back home to arrange a match for him. A match not made in heaven, but in the classifieds. Just as in America, Indian matchmaking sites in newspapers and on the Internet are popular hunting grounds for singles."

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=6762309

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
20. Yes and given that epilepsy is a serious condition, she should have been informed.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:58 AM
Feb 2015

What if the seizure had happened after the wedding on their wedding night? She might not have had any idea what was going on. I've seen many seizures and they are not to be taken lightly.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
22. I've had two relatives who've had seizures. You are right; they're not to be taken lightly.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:03 PM
Feb 2015

I hope yours are well-controlled.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
27. These are arranged marriages - and this one was arranged by lying by omission.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:46 PM
Feb 2015

I'm not saying I admire her for this, but understand the wedding was already paid for.

If she knew and loved her prospective husband, that would be another situation.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
7. Yes, I do feel a sorry for the bridegroom with epilepsy
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:29 AM
Feb 2015

but he should have told her.

I had epilepsy in childhood, but it was well controlled with drugs.

I dropped the drugs as a young adult, and never had a seizure

again, so I was told I "grew out" of it.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
31. There is at least one type of childhood epilepsy that most kids grow out of.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:30 PM
Feb 2015

That appears to be what you had.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
32. Okay,
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 06:58 PM
Feb 2015

Thanks for that information...Do you know anyone else who was diagnosed

with epilepsy?...It's kind of interesting, IMO.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
34. Yes, I do.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:18 PM
Feb 2015

One of my young relatives had this as a child:

http://www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-epilepsy-syndromes/benign-rolandic-epilepsy

It may or may not have been related to a head injury when she was 9. They gave her seizure medication till she was an adult, and then weaned her off it. It's been almost ten years and it never came back.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
36. Thanks again for this info..
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:37 PM
Feb 2015

I'm not sure if the type described in the link is what I had. Mine were

described as "grand mal" seizures. I had them at 12 and thirteen years of

age, and was hospitalized both times, although they never found anything

physical to account for them.

I'd like to talk a little more about it if you don't mind, but it's a bit personal,

so do you mind if I send you a pm?

Thanks pnwmom.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
15. She was probably able to swap an arranged marriage for a more romantic one.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:45 AM
Feb 2015

She knew the young man she chose.

"The young bride, angry that her family had been kept in the dark about Kishore's medical condition, promptly changed her mind and announced that she would happily marry at the same ceremony a guest at the wedding, a man called Harpal Singh. The latter, incidentally, turned out to be her sister's brother-in-law

Singh, caught unawares and dressed in jeans and a leather jacket, fumbled for a moment before declaring he would willingly take Indira as his wife. This time the "varmala" was exchanged between Singh and Indira, which went off without any hitch, with the pandit reciting the mantras and asking the new couple to take the seven "pheras".

Meanwhile, Kishore, who had been rushed to a doctor by his relatives, went back to the venue after he regained consciousness to see that his wife-to-be was now someone else's."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Bareilly/Groom-unwell-bride-weds-guest-in-fit-of-rage/articleshow/46277810.cms

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
26. Agreed. She knew her BIL obviously and seized the opportunity while she had it
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:44 PM
Feb 2015

I too think she saw a window of opportunity to marry for love and jumped at it!

It really does sound like a Bollywood movie

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
19. Reminds me of a Jerry Seinfeld bit.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 11:57 AM
Feb 2015

"The tuxedo is a wedding safety device created by women because they know that men are undependable. So in case the groom chickens out, everybody just takes one step over and she marries the next guy. That's why the wedding vow isn't 'Do you take Bill Simpson', it's 'Do you take this man'"

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
29. In this case, she married someone she probably knew and liked better.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:23 PM
Feb 2015

Instead of an arranged marriage to someone she clearly didn't know well enough -- who had been lying to her and her parents about his health -- she married her sister's brother-in-law. So I bet the chances are that this marriage will work out much better.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
33. In her defense, a wedding dress is really expensive.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 07:02 PM
Feb 2015

If I shelled out what my wife did for her wedding dress, I'd first marry the cake before I let that fucking dress go to waste.

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