Not funny how Hillary's biggest supporters were/are PUMAs

[Motown_Johnny]

People willing to split the party if they don't get their way.

Then they accuse people who don't support HRC of not really being Democrats.


Not funny


Not in the least

[gwheezie]

1. We're not all pumas

I voted for hillary in my primary and obama in the ge twice. I had no hesitation voting for Obama. He won the nomination fair and square. I will vote for Hillary 2 more times I hope but if she isn't the nominee I will vote for the dem.
I thought the Pumas were ridiculous.

[Agschmid]

2. Can someone define PUMA for me...

Sure I can Google but I want to know what the DU definition is...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Somebody the OP doesn't like and feels the need to insult./NT

[glasshouses]

5. party unity my ass

[randys1]

52. Bingo, Karl Rove is doubled over in laughter right now. You dont think he is still a player?

You dont think the goal of the right is to split the Democratic party up?

[iscooterliberally]

7. People United Means Action

It was a pac that opposed the nomination of Obama. According to this wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_United_Means_Action

[Agschmid]

9. Thanks...

Just trying to figure out what it means to DU as an institution.

[ScreamingMeemie]

12. It depends upon the poster on any given day.

[iscooterliberally]

13. Hey that looks like Boston in your sig. I lived in Eastie for almost 2 years.

I loves me some Boston, but I'm back in the warms of South Florida again. I hope you are staying warm if you're up there. I used to work on Boylston Street right behind Fenway Park.

[Agschmid]

19. You may or may not have heard (...)

But it's been snowy! So far I'm doing okay but I don't rely on the T and I know that's been incredibly hard for he people who do.

I love the city silhouette signature I think it's pretty cool, thanks for noticing!

[iscooterliberally]

36. Oh I have heard! My former landlord has been posting pics from his window on FB.

Its way worse than in 2013 when my minivan got snowed under. At least the top of the roof was still showing when I started to dig out. I used to use the T every day. The Blue Line at Airport station was about a 1/2 mile from my place. I lost 10 pounds while living there. I walked everywhere. I only started my car to move it from one side of the street to the other on street sweeping days. I miss the sandwiches at The Beantown Pub, the steak & sausage at Santarpios, and the Shepherd's Pie at the Green Dragon. The tour at the Sam Adam's Brewery was great fun too! They took us to Doyle's on a tram after. That place had Irish Nachos! Sorry if I made you hungry. I'm waiting for my lunch to arrive.

[madokie]

41. I don't know about Agschmid

but you got my attention, my stomach is growling as I type

[iscooterliberally]

48. Sorry madokie! I hope you have something delicious for lunch.

I just had a pizza that was pretty good. I still miss all that Boston food though.

[Agschmid]

61. Yes me too!

[Agschmid]

62. Irish Nachos sound really good right now!

And I have yet to do the Sam tour even though I live her, I'll get on that!

[Motown_Johnny]

51. It means Party Unity My Ass

and the fact that people need to lie about the meaning (in the context presented in the OP) just proves that they are on the wrong side of this issue.

[Capt. Obvious]

8. Pick Up My Apples

[Dr. Strange]

55. Please Use Michigan Airplanes

[TheKentuckian]

24. Personality cultists seemingly attached to Hillary Clinton as some totem

who's battle cry was (P)arty (U)nity (M)y (A)ss and had nary a policy concern or indeed any actual identifiable issues other than HILLARY!

I think their "trump" rationale was "experience" some going so far as to say they were going to have to go McShame though most came running back after about a week of Phailin on the set.
A few claimed to be further emboldened because of the presence of a woman on the ticket and could be found online in bitter little covens that seemed to increasingly swing hard right till they bled out quickly after Clinton joined the administration and in the wake of that move, leaving little female dominant right wing hate sites that were split on Hillary but definitely anti liberal that have probably went TEA years ago or just plain died due to disinterest.

They probably are worshiping Breadbags Ernst, Nikki Hayley, and Marsha Blackburn nowadays. Probably not so much Hayley once they get past the name and hair.

[merrily]

27. Stands for Party Unity, My Ass.

A group of (supposedly) Hillary supporters supposedly vowed to vote Republican (esp. Palin) or just not to unify to support Obama.

I suspect some of the more activist ones were Republicans anyway, just trying to get votes away from the Dem nominee, but I know at least one woman who did switch from Dem to Republican. On the other hand, she had been a Republican until Reagan ran. She hated Reagan.

[Agschmid]

28. Well she was a fool...

[merrily]

29. Check out the smirk on Carville's face

Wearing Puma sneakers to the Democratic National Convention of 2008, sticking his legs out to make sure everyone (and the camera?) sees them.






She was an ass about Obama, but she was sure right about Reagan. She said Obama reminded her of Reagan.

[ND-Dem]

30. she who? carville was the clintons' advisor, married to the bushes' advisor. it's farcical.

[merrily]

32. "She" the woman I mentioned in my Reply 27. Not Carville's wife. Just someone I know because I used

to post on a board she owned. Not long after the 2008 primary ended, she banned me.

[Agschmid]

63. That's just ridiculous...

That guy irks me.

[leftynyc]

38. And Elizabeth Warren

was a republican more recently than that. What's your point?

[KittyWampus]

34. PartyUnityMyAss >>> die hard Hillary supporters who wanted her to stay in the primary

to the bitter end even when there was no possible way for her to win mathematically. And despite how ugly her, her political supporters got. (Geraldine Ferrarof/Bill Cointon).

Regarding the OP, I do not think it's fair to characterize all supporters of Hillary as a bitter-ender. That isn't proven at all.

[11 Bravo]

46. Pushing Unsubstantiated Meta Assholery

[daleanime]

4. Don't care who her supporters are, or who they are suppose to be.....

it's the past and the future that matter to me.

[Thinkingabout]

6. That's funny, I support Hillary and have been accused of being republican along

With not being a Democrat.

[gwheezie]

14. Same here but I don't take it personally

I know what I am. I'd say almost every hillary supporter in 08 voted for Obama. I didn't see much difference between them policy wise but when obama got the nomination I ran into a few angry hillary supporters who accused me of not being a real dem.
ironically since I support hillary again I again being called not a real dem. so I found I am not a real dem whether I support hillary or not depending on who I talk to.

[randys1]

54. If anybody has an actual beef with her, it is the AfAm community for her race baiting in 08

Which makes you wonder why middle class, white, protestant males are likely not to vote for Hillary but most minorities will. (I could be wrong about most minorities will, but I am wiling to bet I am not)

Could it be that most minorities still dont have, or are not protected, the same civil rights white folk do? Gay folks too, of course.

[bigwillq]

10. I'm not interested in which candidate anyone supports

or doesn't, or who they supported in the past, or what they were in the past, present or future.
Everyone is free to support the candidate of their choice for whatever reason.

I have my vote. They have theirs. And I am cool with it.

[ScreamingMeemie]

11. Second verse, same as the first...

Let the good times roll...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. This thread is silly.

If a person actively opposed the Democratic nominee after the Convention he or she was tombstoned so it's virtually impossible those people are here now unless they are shill accounts.

[ieoeja]

16. There is at least one.

She posted straight out that she left the Democratic party after 2008. And her two favorite posting topics are (1) how wonderful Hillary is and (2) how horrible Obama is.

But she never came right out and advocated voting against Obama. Hence, her survival.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Kind of silly , imho, because I don't see her as having governed fundamentally differently./NT

[ieoeja]

20. They did have a lot of differences on foreign policy.

I've seen administrations walk back comments by Secretary's of State before. But I don't recall it ever happening multiple times before Obama and Hillary. The White House disavowed itself from her remarks on more than one occasion. A point about which I usually remind people when they tout her performance at State.

It amazes me how readily these things go down the memory hole.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. With limited options HRC might have sounded more hawkish but ended up in the same place

George Bush* seems to have discredited the large scale application of military force.

I see a lot of Freud's narcissism of small differences here. Many posters try to distinguish themselves from other posters over differences that are merely cosmetic.

[Fumesucker]

17. Of course it's not funny..

It's Hillarious.

[MohRokTah]

22. The PUMAs got pissed off at Hillary the moment she accepted the SoS spot under Obama.

The PUMAs weren't about love for Hillary.

They were about hatred for Obama.

[HappyMe]

23. lol!

Oh boy! It's opposite day on DU!

[Orsino]

25. Well, it's finally their turn. n/t

[hrmjustin]

26. Epic fail! Hillary supporters did not split from the party and voted for Obama overwhelming!

And may i remind you that it is not Hillary supporters claiming they won't vote for the nominee if Hillary doesn't get it.

I don't like questioning people's loyalty to the party either but we shoukd be hinest here.

Puma exists but ut sure as hell is nit from Hillary supporters here.

[brooklynite]

31. Nobody is a PUMA...

PUMA was a buzzword that got thrown around on the internet 8 years, and turned out to be virtually non-existent. No more than a handful of Clinton Democrats ended up not voting for Barack Obama. And despite all the chest-thumping and bravado, no more than a handful of the people here who proudly claim they'll "never vote for Hillary" will have the courage to live up to their promise in 2016.

[uponit7771]

44. ..nah, there's plenty of PUMA fud here... plenty... the post almost look identical

[brooklynite]

45. Take a look at that 2008 post: most of the entries were from February

[AtomicKitten]

33. Behold! DU, circa 2008.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=363x16

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Most or all of those clowns are thankfully gone./NT

[Mr Dixon]

37. WOW

Great find Remember kiddies nothing is ever deleted from the net.

[hrmjustin]

40. Well i hope we can move past this when we have a nominee.

[uponit7771]

43. +1, same fudr then same fudr now

[HappyMe]

47. Well, well.

Lookie that!


A couple even said they would vote McCain!

[Agschmid]

65. Good lord... Here we go again.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Most of those posters were women and I suspect older ones.

They were obviously heavily invested in her candidacy. I don't know how much one can infer from a bunch of random posters on an internet board but if there are women that invested in her candidacy it can't but help be a good thing fot her electoral prospects.

[uponit7771]

42. PUMA = fudr's

[wyldwolf]

49. In 2008, Hillary got 18 MILLION votes. Most of those were PUMAS?

And, if so, how did Obama get elected?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. Fuzzy math./NT

[Motown_Johnny]

53. I said her strongest supporters

not every supporter


please don't misrepresent my statement

[wyldwolf]

56. So you have names?

[Motown_Johnny]

58. .

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/08/27/576454/-James-Carville-s-Shoes

[wyldwolf]

60. So you come up with ONE name. And a dubious claim at best

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/01/23/carville_obama_the_best_president_we_ever_had_for_the_stock_market.html

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2013/nov/12/james-carville-says-barack-obama-saved-auto-indust/

Any more?

Should we put any Democrat in a commentator's role as PUMA?

[LanternWaste]

57. Thank goodness it's only the supporters of the aforementioned candidate who are guilty

Thank goodness it's only the strongest supporters of the aforementioned candidate who are guilty of accusing others of not being Democrats, and no other strong supporters of other candidates have ever, are, or will ever do that.

Otherwise, I've be compelled to believe that holding one group to a higher standard than other groups is at best, half-witted buffoonery.

[Motown_Johnny]

59. If that is an attempt at sarcasm

then please take this seriously and present some examples of other Democrats who have done anything like what the PUMAs did.

Unless you want to go back to the primary challenge of Pres. Carter (which helped get us Reagan)or the anti Vietnam war movement that hurt LBJ so badly he couldn't run in '68 (and helped us get Nixon) you will be hard pressed to do so.

My point is that we should not be splitting the party just because we can't all get behind HRC until the nomination process is over (unlike the PUMAs who damaged the party after the nomination process was over).

[uponit7771]

64. +1