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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:25 PM Feb 2015

Judicial Watch Founder: President Obama Can't Swear To The Constitution Because He's A Muslim

Judicial Watch founder and far right-wing legal activist Larry Klayman claimed in an interview with Newsmax’s Steve Malzberg today that President Obama “sympathizes with the so-called Muslim faith” and “everything he does nearly is based on favoring his own people, which is Muslims and African Americans.” “He thinks like a Muslim, he believes that he is a Muslim, he obviously does worship the Koran,” Klayman said. “He obviously is in fact biased against people who are not of his claimed religion and otherwise.”

He added that President Obama’s supposed Muslim faith makes him unable to swear allegiance to the Constitution. “Given the fact that the president is a Muslim at heart and half-Muslim by birth, he can’t even swear to the Constitution because you have to swear on the Holy Bible of Judeo-Christians,” he explained. “This president obviously believes in Sharia law, and as a result he has no respect for this Constitution, which was founded by our founding fathers under Judeo-Christian principles.”

Klayman told Malzberg that his call last year for Obama to “put the Quran down, get up off your knees and come out with your hands up” was just “what the country has been thinking but nobody says.” He cited a number of discredited anti-Obama conspiracy theories, including that Obama attended an Islamic “madrassa” as a child, that he admitted to George Stephanopoulos that he is a Muslim, that he is running a campaign to oust Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and that he wears a secret Muslim wedding ring.

“Let’s be blunt, and I don’t mean this in a racist way, but if he had been Richard Nixon and he had been Caucasian, he would have been gone by now,” Klayman concluded. See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/larry-klayman-obama-cant-swear-constitution-because-hes-muslim#sthash.8b1bk9QI.dpuf

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Judicial Watch Founder: President Obama Can't Swear To The Constitution Because He's A Muslim (Original Post) big_dog Feb 2015 OP
Klayman is just pissed because he never got anywhere with his Birther lawsuits. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #1
Judicial Watch and Klaymen are scum OKNancy Feb 2015 #2
But yet Judicial Watch exposed Dick Cheney and the NEPDG. OnyxCollie Feb 2015 #10
Jesus Christ. Where do they find these people?! JaneyVee Feb 2015 #3
Did you need to have this long of a post INdemo Feb 2015 #4
Do you see what is going on here? Kingofalldems Feb 2015 #13
I ws just refering to Repuke trolls that vist DU INdemo Feb 2015 #16
Klayman doesn't understand the Constitution SteveG Feb 2015 #5
Exactly. Besides that, why didn't he call out the Muslim member of Congress who swore his oath on Panich52 Feb 2015 #17
Notwithstanding the hilarity of his allegations, OilemFirchen Feb 2015 #6
oh right, our whole system hinges on believers placing their hand on the bible when they take office unblock Feb 2015 #7
What a total tool. dballance Feb 2015 #8
Mr. Klayman. Emory University here. We want our law degree back. onenote Feb 2015 #9
Teddy Roosevelt didn't swear on the bible. J.Q. Adams swore on a bool law. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #11
a beer brewing and pork eating Muslim at that. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #12
As I recall, Obama specifically used a Bible that had belonged to Lincoln at his first Inaugural Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #14
Klayman is a Clown Cartoon. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #15
Nobody is required to swear on a Bible. sinkingfeeling Feb 2015 #18
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. Klayman is just pissed because he never got anywhere with his Birther lawsuits.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:28 PM
Feb 2015

He's become a cartoon of the cartoon he was prior to Obama being elected.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
2. Judicial Watch and Klaymen are scum
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:28 PM
Feb 2015

And it's really creepy when someone posts them as a source to bash the Clintons.
Oh and those who believe what Judicial Watch has to say about ANY Democrat.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
10. But yet Judicial Watch exposed Dick Cheney and the NEPDG.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 03:07 PM
Feb 2015

Funny guy, that Klayman.

-The Issues in the Case: FACA's Scope, and Permissible Discovery

The core issue in this case is whether the Federal Advisory Committee Act of 1972 (FACA) applies to the National Energy Policy Development Group. If so, then the Group's proceedings must be revealed. Cheney's position is that FACA does not apply, by its own terms, since the president appointed only federal officials to serve on the panel.

But the plaintiffs in the case -- Judicial Watch and the Sierra Club - argue that in fact, it's not true that only federal officials served on the panel. To the contrary, they say, a number of energy industry lobbyists (such as Enron's Ken Lay) were so deeply involved in the work of the Group, they were effectively members. And the D.C. Circuit ruled in 1993, in Association of Physicians & Surgeons v. Clinton, that in such a situation, FACA does apply.

The Court left the question whether FACA applies for the Court of Appeals. But it did speak, at least to some extent,to the discovery issues the case also raised. The plaintiffs had served discovery requests--principally requests for documents, and written interrogatories - on Cheney.

Cheney refused to respond. He also refused to invoke executive privilege. Thus, were it not for his decision to seek Supreme Court review, he would have had to either invoke executive privilege, or produce documents and respond to the interrogatories. On this issue, the Court sided with Cheney. It held that: "Given the breadth of the discovery requests in this case …, our precedent provides no support for the proposition that the Executive Branch "shall bear the burden" of invoking executive privilege with sufficient specificity and of making particularized objections."

But it also pointed out that the federal trial courts in the District of Columbia had previously fashioned discovery requests from the Executive that did not require an invocation of executive privilege, and caused no separation of powers problems. Thus, the Court left the ultimate issue of whether similar requests could be fashioned in this case, to the D.C. Circuit. (Dean, 2004, p. 2)


-Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, sought documents from the NEPDG beginning on April 19, 2001. JW was forced to file a lawsuit in the US District Court for the District of Columbia (Judicial Watch Inc. v. Department of Energy et al., Civil Action No. 01-0981) when the government failed to comply with the provisions of the FOIA law. U.S. District Court Judge Paul J. Friedman ordered the government to produce the documents on March 5, 2002. The documents, dated March 2001, contain a map of Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, refineries and terminals, as well as two charts detailing Iraqi oil and gas projects, and “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.” (JW, 2003)

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INdemo

(6,994 posts)
16. I ws just refering to Repuke trolls that vist DU
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:16 PM
Feb 2015

frequently and just cant consume that much info at once. My post was cut short as I was posting from my iPhone
No disrespect intended

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
5. Klayman doesn't understand the Constitution
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:37 PM
Feb 2015

Nowhere in it is any officer of the U.S. required to swear an oath on a Bible to hold office.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
17. Exactly. Besides that, why didn't he call out the Muslim member of Congress who swore his oath on
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:35 PM
Feb 2015

on the Quran, Keith Ellison (IN)?

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
6. Notwithstanding the hilarity of his allegations,
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:38 PM
Feb 2015

its premise:

... he can’t even swear to the Constitution because you have to swear on the Holy Bible of Judeo-Christians...

is a lie.

N.B. to the OP: Careful with this. Some of our residents regard Mr. Klayman with some esteem.

unblock

(52,243 posts)
7. oh right, our whole system hinges on believers placing their hand on the bible when they take office
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:40 PM
Feb 2015

never mind the ridiculous and clearly bigoted claim that obama is a muslim, never mind the "no religious test" bit in the constitution, etc....

how on earth is the stupid ritual of having an elected official place a hand on a bible helped us in any way?

seriously? are we really supposed to believe that that's the all-important failsafe that keeps even a christian president from destroying the country?

well, of course, it didn't stop watergate or the teapot dome scandal anything else rotten that presidents have done in the past, every past president put his hand on a bible, i guess we know all that crap was just god's will, whereas in obama's case....


 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
8. What a total tool.
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
Feb 2015

Klayman needs to read the Constitution. It says, very clearly, that no religious test will be required to hold office. People have sworn an oath to that Constitution and symbolically only done it on a Bible. The swearing in of a person on the Judeo-Chrisian Bible is not at all required. Absolutely no where does any oath of office include the words "So Help Me God."

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
14. As I recall, Obama specifically used a Bible that had belonged to Lincoln at his first Inaugural
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 03:29 PM
Feb 2015

I'd know for sure if it had not been a Christian extravaganza starring Ricky Pie Warren, but it was so I was distracted and annoyed at the hyper Christianity of the event. It dripped with the Jesus juice.

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