Tis the season for trolls and grifters.

[trumad]

Last edited Thu Feb 19, 2015, 04:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Got's teh feelings that's this election is gonna be swamped with both.

On edit: No I'm not talking about anti-Hillary people...I'm talking about the Giuliani's of the world.

Ugg---No fuck that---Double Ugg!

[LittleBlue]

1. I hope you're not suggesting

that people who oppose Hillary are trolls.

[randys1]

2. I asume opposition to Hillary IF she is the nominee or AFTER the convention will be a violation

of the rules here, I sure hope so.


If you want to rag on her after she is the nominee, there are other places to do that, Discussionist for one

Personally, I dont have to rag on her at that point, I am well aware of her negatives, more so than most people I know, but at that point they wont have anything to do with voting in that one election

[TBF]

5. You've been here since 2008 - you know the rules just fine.

Trying to intimidate folks before we even have primaries is nasty and unnecessary.

[randys1]

6. I agree, and I have NEVER done that

[HappyMe]

8. Allegedly.

[Scuba]

12. Are you suggesting that once the primaries are over that policy debates must cease?

Are we then expected to support any and every policy position taken by the Party's candidate?

[MineralMan]

14. From DU's TOS:

For presidential contests, election season begins when both major-party nominees become clear. For non-presidential contests, election season begins on Labor Day. Everyone here on DU needs to work together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government. If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during election season, we'll assume you are rooting for the other side.

Interpret it for yourself.

[Scuba]

15. Thanks.

[randys1]

17. Yes, policy debate is over once the nominee is chosen. That is how a party works

Whether or not DU does, is only relevant to here, which was the point I was making, I agree.

I guess the point is, during election season AFTER the candidate is chosen, there is NO point in debating what that candidate believes about anything UNTIL that person is elected.

But once the election is over, bash away, I know I will.

I know that I wont be happy with much of what the candidate will do no matter who it is unless it is Bernie.

One reason a party acts like this, and it is especially relevant now, is as a member of said party you are DIAMETRICALLY opposed to almost everything the other party is for, and in the case of the new Repub party, it is never been more obvious, the differences.

Like for me the only thing worse than a mainstream Democratic politician elected to the WH would be any republican and it would be 987 million times worse.

[Scuba]

19. You and I will have to agree to disagree.

"... AFTER the candidate is chosen, there is NO point in debating what that candidate believes about anything UNTIL that person is elected."

We also disagree on the relative "worseness" of particular candidates. For example, I see very little difference between Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush, although I would agree that Scott Walker would be 987 million times worse than Elizabeth Warren.

[randys1]

20. Ahh, what was the FIRST hire by Bush of a main position in his campaign?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/09/1363380/-Jeb-Bush-goes-all-hip-in-new-technology-hire-will-probably-regret-it-immediately




A misogynist teaparty asshole

You must understand that if John Ellis Bush (we must call him by his actual name from now on) thought that he needed to appoint a Roe opponent to the SC to get Reelected, he would do so in a heartbeat

Therefore there is a MOUNTAIN of difference

[Scuba]

21. That's your opinion.

[randys1]

22. No, it is not....It is what he did, who he hired is who he hired.

[Scuba]

23. It's your opinion that the hire make a "mountain of difference."

Keeping women poor while denying them equal rights is not much different than keeping women poor while advocating for their rights.

[randys1]

24. What does any of that have to do with anything if the Woman in question is dead?

[Scuba]

25. That's the point. Starving under Jeb is no worse than starving under Hillary.

[1StrongBlackMan]

28. Really? ...

Let me pose that position to women.

[Scuba]

29. Yeah, ask two starving, homeless women what they think about those differences.

[1StrongBlackMan]

30. I will ...

next month, when I'm working a community service project with some youth mentees.

The closest I've come to that questions was asking a couple hungry (because they were at the kitchen) homeless folks whether they cared that the wealthy got tax cuts made permanent in exchange for the government not shutting down. Guess what they didn't "give a sh!t about" (their words)?

[Aerows]

27. She hasn't even announced a run yet.

It's way too soon to be waving around rules and talking about violation of the TOS.

Can we actually have a candidate that says "Okay, I am starting my run", maybe another candidate that says "Okay, I'm going to run for the nomination, too", have an actually primary before we start all of that?

Because so far, we've got nothing.

[Dawgs]

3. I hope so. I love the season and everything it brings. n/t

[SidDithers]

7. DU's revolving door...

We're swimming in zombies of previously banned posters.

It's too bad the dead don't stay dead.

Sid

[Rex]

9. I don't see why it would be any different than all the other times.

I might just step away for a few weeks/month like I did when Obama and HRC were running against each other. Just not worth my blood pressure spiking.

This place will always be Fight Club.

[Blue_Tires]

10. which would make it different from other elections how???

[NightWatcher]

11. Fa la la la la, la la, la la

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. What election isn't? They're all run by politicians...and corporations.

You know....people.

[trumad]

16. Thank you---

exactly

[Shrike47]

18. Sarah Palin

Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin,

What are you, what are you?

Is it troll or grifter, is it troll or grifter?

Will both do? Will both do?

[Kingofalldems]

26. How about the one(s) with 5 paragraphs of

what some right winger says about Obama? And multiple OPs daily.