Citizen Four wins OSCAR nt

[grasswire]

[grasswire]

1. Glenn on stage for acceptance

Laura in the audience, I believe.

[sabrina 1]

15. Laura was on the stage and made a wonderful speech.

[grasswire]

2. Truth will out. nt

[Fumesucker]

3. Those explosions you're hearing...

Pragmatic centrist moderate heads..

[grasswire]

4. nicely put nt

[Fumesucker]

11. The other thread on the Oscar has a lovely example or two...

[grasswire]

13. three hides on one poster

meltdown mega

[treestar]

18. Silly. This would be for movie quality

And movie quality only, not content.

Like those posts hoping American Sniper won't win. Because they don't like what it's about or what they think it espouses. It's about movie quality, not that.

The award given does not have to approve of anything other than how the movie was constructed.

[JDPriestly]

22. What information are you relying on when you say that?

Have you talked to a member of the Academy about why they vote for what films and actors they vote for?

Cause that's not what my sources tell me.

[treestar]

23. If they do it based on politics, their awards are meaningless.

[JDPriestly]

24. They do it based on whether they like a film, whether they are moved by a

performance.

Citizen Four won because people in the arts need privacy more than the rest of us. And because Hollywood has not forgotten the blacklisting during the McCarthy era and the surveillance by the government in the past.

[treestar]

38. There is no evidence if that

And you insult their expertise on filmmaking.

Shows how desperate Eddies fans are. It will do zip to get him any support. He stays in Russia.

[Fred Drum]

25. as are most opinions

yours included

[sabrina 1]

27. Really? How do you know that? This is a Documentary and as far as I know Docs are judged

on the importance of the content and how it is presented. Citizenfour has been getting rave reviews as an 'important historical document'.

I am glad that Sniper got nothing, because movies ARE rated on the content and it is good to know that the country WANTS to know the TRUTH, which is why Citizenfour has been doing so well and got an Oscar while the Sniper was passed over. I guess glorifying the killing in Iraq just wasn't what thinking people found all that great.

Now if Fox was handing out Oscars, American Sniper would have won every category and Citizenfour would not even have been nominated.

[treestar]

40. It could be about anything

I could make a shitty movie about Eddie. So u get an Oscar do to the Importance of Eddie?

What do you suppose the awards are for ? The first thought of a sensible person would be quality of the film.

Even if the Academy agrees with you on Eddie, that doesn't mean shit. He is still in Russia and still a criminal

[sabrina 1]

41. In this democracy, no one is a criminal until they have been convicted in a court of law. Well, that

is how it used to be until Cheney/Bush changed the Constitution.

Snowden is a hero, and clearly a majority of people view him and Whistle Blowers in general, that way.

Documentaries are NOT judged on someone writing about something that has no meaning.

THIS Documentary has received rave reviews as a HISTORICAL Documentary that has recorded a period of our history that should not be hidden, as the government would like to do and will be viewed for generations now, informing the people of how our country nearly lost its Democracy. Hopefully 'nearly' is the operative word.

I say 'nearly' BECAUSE of courageous journalists like Poitras and Greenwald and Whistle Blowers like Snowden and Binney, Drake, Manning and so many others.

Without them the coup by Cheney and his gang of war criminals would have been complete by now.

[treestar]

48. Comrade Eddie has not had his day in court because of his own choices. eom

[BeanMusical]

28. Rofl!

[treestar]

39. So how are the winners chosen?

[BeanMusical]

44. You're really obsessed, why is that?

[treestar]

47. Not particularly

this is just a DU thread. Your replies are nonsensical.

[BeanMusical]

49. I'm not just talking about that thread.

[treestar]

51. You're making less sense and the thread goes on. eom

[BeanMusical]

52. This coming from a prolific poster of nonsensicality like yourself is ironic, isn't it?

[treestar]

53. As far as I'm concerned, I never post anything that is nonsense

But you are obviously after me, and not interested in the topic. Did I offend you by disagreement with you somewhere? I don't know why you'd have a personal beef. We are talking about how this movie getting an award means it's a good movie, not necessarily that Comrade Eddie has done right. If that's an issue you'd like to discuss, have at it.

[BeanMusical]

54. You never liked him to begin with!

[NYC Liberal]

5. “Leakers should be shot.”

–Edward Snowden

[cui bono]

9. Or wear depends.

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[JackRiddler]

6. So the annual Hollywood reachover is worth something after all.

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The documentary and foreign awards are pretty much the only ones to care about since they might promote something that deserves it. (The rest is what a group made up mostly of rich white men, median age 63, think makes them look best.)

[JDPriestly]

17. Do you know any of the members of the Academy?

[JackRiddler]

32. Why?

The figures for median age were widespread again in recent news coverage after barely any nominations for Selma. I was probably wrong about the proportion of white men, definitely a majority but certainly not the figure I initially gave, sorry. Rich is kind of my assumption, call them economically prosperous.

[sabrina 1]

29. I really was surprised at the winners, almost all of them were about serious issues. Not just

Citizen Four. I wasn't going to watch them, at first certain the American Sniper would win everything.

Then I saw Patricia Arquette's statement and then Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald. I thought they were saving the propaganda movie for the big awards, but that didn't happen.

The Oscars were pretty good tonight, AND they got all the 'right' people angry.

[JackRiddler]

33. Okay.

But the larger point about what makes them the authority for judging the quality of the movies produced by their own industry stands.

[malaise]

35. Very well said

add John Legend to the great comments

[JaneyVee]

7. I recommend.

[elleng]

8. For what?

(Saw it. Liked it. NOT watching the 'Show.)

[grasswire]

10. best documentary nt

[elleng]

12. Thanks. Good to hear.

It was a fine (and inspirational) movie.

[WillyT]

14. K & R !!!

[JDPriestly]

16. Surveillance is the enemy of great art.

Actors lead very public lives. Their fans sometimes want to invade their private lives. And so many of them cherish their privacy even more than the rest of us.

More importantly, creating great art is often a painful, private act. Even when the art appears to be public and spontaneous, it is the result of a process of work, in some cases repetition, practice, the correcting of mistakes, and more mistakes and more mistakes. And many authors write and rewrite their works before publishing them.

Artists need privacy.

In my opinion, that explains the tribute to Citizen Four by the Academy tonight. Remember the blacklisting during the McCarthy era. A lot of people in Hollywood will never forget it.

Thanks to the Academy for the award for Citizen Four. It was a bold and righteous statement.

[JEB]

46. +1000

[elias49]

19. Great news.

And a fascinating movie. Watched it last week.

Poitras' documentary "My Country, My Country" was also very good.

[Fuddnik]

20. Why did my Kaspersky secure browser open up when I recc'd this thread?

[sabrina 1]

30. Lol, because we are all being spied on ... seriously. Your rec for this thread is probably now in

your file, under the title 'enemy of the state'.

Don't worry, millions of Americans are filed under the same heading!

[deurbano]

21. K & R!

[pa28]

26. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped. - Ed Snowden.

[sabrina 1]

31. Laura Poitras dedicated the Oscar to Edward Snowden. Glenn Greenwald was holding an Oscar

They now have Pulitzer Prize AND an Oscar. I hear on DU that 'no one even knows who they are'! Lol!

[JackRiddler]

34. I tried to "like" this post.

Damn Facebook habits.

[sabrina 1]

36. Lol! Someone once told me they reached for an imaginary delete button while

arguing with a real life Bush supporter! It didn't work!

[pa28]

50. They also hold multiple awards dedicated to freedom of speech and journalistic excellence.

However, some remaining members of the flat earth society on DU will tell you they are all very, very scary people.

Whatever this administration is they are not stupid and they don't like looking ridiculous. Citizen Four's Oscar and the BAFTA just dialed up pressure for a long overdue clemency deal.

[Blue_Tires]

37. Did Putin host an oscar party?

nt

[JackRiddler]

42. Did Bush?

[bigwillq]

43. Outstanding.

K and R

[JEB]

45. K&R

Can't wait to see the film.