Glenn Greenwald is holding an Oscar on TV right now.

[cui bono]

So there.

[cui bono]

2. Aw...

aren't you precious.

[cui bono]

5. Aw...

aren't you precious.

[uhnope]

184. "Edward Snowden couldn't be here for some (t)reason."

Thank you, Neil Patrick Harris

[Cryptoad]

202. Comrade Snowden was too busy,,

redecorating his new beach house in Kiev,,,,,,,

[billhicks76]

263. Hello NSA Lover

Don't you get tired for shilling for Un-American policies. It's always yah-teaming with the same commenter too. You should get paid you know. My opinions is that anyone who supports the kind of spying on the American people that's occurring is the real "Comrade". And having private contractors fleece the US Treasury with questionable contracts is quite criminal.

[Cryptoad]

284. You make Papa Paul Proud,,,,,,,

[billhicks76]

289. Hahaha.

Seriously? Are you some kind of NSA troll who always appears on every spying thread to convince us we should be happy to be spied on by invoking Ron Paul? That's so cliche. It doesn't work because none of us are divided about Ron Paul and hardly think about him. You are the one who reminds me of Republicans. Only someone like you would think it's ok to listen to phone conversations or emails of attorneys, journalists, judges, political reps and candidates, generals, activists, businessmen, researchers, engineers and Buerocrats to gain leverage over them or groups they represent. How have you even been allowed to spew such Un-American drivel for so long?

[Cryptoad]

297. Treason is Treason ,,,,

no matter how your bs

[billhicks76]

303. Yes And You Support Treason

Your buddies violate the constitution and the oath to uphold it.

[Cryptoad]

308. YOu have no idea what or whom I support or not.

but go ahead and make it up as you go if it makes your job easier

[billhicks76]

312. You're The One Making This A Job...Not Me

I troll for freedom and decency...not recording personal conversations or peoples sex lives to gain leverage on them. It's ironic Rethuglicans used to say,"If you don't like it here then go live in Russia" but people like you want to bring Russia here.

[TBF]

209. That was hilarious -

Harris rocks.

[fadedrose]

211. One of the best lines spoken all night :)

[amuse bouche]

220. Loved it

It made me laugh at loud

[sabrina 1]

276. It was a great line, he put a pause between the t and reason. And the audience got it. The very fact

that the film had just won an Oscar, that it has received rave reviews from all over the world, and now the British Academy Award also, the Directors Guild Award, and has been described as a 'film for the ages', something that will be viewed by generations to come capturing some moments in the frightening, the dark period we have entered into, where we are close to losing our Constitutional Rights, something THAT audience understood, and yet, the hero of the movie, rather than being lauded for his service to this country by exposing Crimes against the Constitution, has been called a 'traitor' here by some, mostly on the Right, while torturers are called 'patriots who were frustrated'.

Yeah, I think it was a great line.

[Hissyspit]

213. Stupid joke.

[BeanMusical]

285. Yup, totally agree.

[rhett o rick]

219. I guess some feel more comfortable wallowing in the authoritarian bubble of

corporatism of the Carlyle Group/Bos Allen Hamilton/Gen Clapper/Brennan than the whistle-blowers fighting for freedom.

Seems the New Democrats hate whistle-blowers, investigative journalists and protestors who try to look behind the authoritarian curtain. Freedom is hard work, authoritarianism is easy.

[erronis]

233. Same old Beltway Bandits - making off with the taxpayer $s

I know that corporate theft of public funds has been around before the Greek/Egyptian/Chinese empires but I think that groups like Carlyle/Booze/Dyntech have perfected the execution. Of course it helps to have installed lackeys in every branch of the government as well as our "protecting" agencies.

Contract/cash payouts are immediate rewards. Investigative reporting is hard work and has much smaller payouts. I'm surprised that there are are any honest reporters working on any of the major media outlets.........

Sir, can I hold the revolving door open for you?

[staggerleem]

237. Only if you ...

... are the "authority".

[billhicks76]

305. Unbelievable

It amazes me how people focus on so called treason instead of the crimes that affect us all like stalking us. We need revolution not revolutionaries. But I'm sure the same criminals and detractors would still find a way to excuse crimes against the people even if so called traitors didn't expose it. It's probably also treasonous to out CIA drug dealing or murder but I'm not sympathetic. And yes I don't believe those who incessantly blitz these threads with propaganda and stalk every dissenter are real Democratic activists. They are way too obviously biased with an agenda. Maybe they are NSA Democrats...I bet there is a few.

[sabrina 1]

306. Well, it's not the first time in history that a nation has given up its rights in the name of

'nationalism' and 'patriotism' or for some childlike 'trust' in authority. And none of those instances could have occurred without enablers among the population. If more people had spoken up during those times, before it was too late, what a different world this would be.

Which is why, no matter how angry they get those who care about the civil liberties we are entitled to, like Greenwald and others, must be supported and defended, strongly.

I think that is happening now. A few years ago I was afraid they would succeed in silencing Greenwald the way they have silence others.

But I think there is a real fear growing among the people, not just of this country, but around the world, that if they don't stand up now, it may be too late.

It isn't so long ago that a huge price was paid for apathy and complacency. While some Americans may not remember or care too much about something 'so far away', others remember it well.

[billhicks76]

307. Let's See These Jerks Attack Poitras

They can't because they can't construct a false narrative about her. She a real hero. She took on people who would and maybe will kill her without flinching. Maybe a suicide or OD...guys are easier because they can exploit common sexual deviances. Those who criticize the ones who defend our rights at great expense are utter scum to me and should be to anyone who believes in decency, country, God, family whatever. They are only out for themselves and a paycheck. I hope they get roasted in Hell.

[Logical]

12. I think someone's jealous! nt

[Electric Monk]

137. ?

Sid Didthers has the same IP address as admins here

Funny that.

hundreds of members here are being played hard. I wouldnt donate the spit off the sidewalk to this infiltrated site

That's a pretty serious claim. You have some evidence to back it up, I presume?

[one_voice]

144. They've posted that four times in this thread. Along with...

some accusations against a MIRT memeber. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026263956#post118

[sabrina 1]

140. What??? How would you know that?

[hrmjustin]

162. It was just another disruptor who hates Sid.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=319755

It looks like the mirt team got rid of the poster.

[BeanMusical]

165. But the one demanding that a reporter be killed is just on vacation???

[hrmjustin]

166. Well skinner and Earlg will review that tomorrow or Tuesday.

[BeanMusical]

287. Well it was reviewed and that fine poster will be back to make DU a better place.

[hrmjustin]

300. I am suprised somewhat but it is their call.

[QC]

311. Certain trolls have always enjoyed a kind of protected status here.

Pretzel Warrior is only one of them. Anyone else remember OPERATIONMINDCRIME? How many years was he allowed to disrupt this place?

[sabrina 1]

169. I would have liked an answer from the poster who made the claim.

That's a pretty serious charge and it would be better to know what would prompt someone to make a charge that would seriously harm this forum, for good.

Anyhow, thanks for the link ...

[hrmjustin]

170. The poster was looking to cause disruption.

The poster complained about mirt and its members below.the poster was here before.

The claim is certainly bogus and an attempt to smear Sid. The poster is gone but no doedoubt will come back to play again.

[sabrina 1]

174. It smeared Skinner. To claim that he is in any way related to Sid would cause hundreds of people to

leave this forum. No doubt that is why he made that particular comparison.

I am glad it isn't true.

[bvar22]

254. I don't believe there is a comparison.

Skinner is way smarter.

[sabrina 1]

256. That's for sure! n/t

[Mojorabbit]

217. I am interested in this also.

I would like to see his evidence if any.

[hrmjustin]

224. He didn't. It was an attempt at disruption.

If he had evidence he would havve put it up.

[MrMickeysMom]

277. He disrupts through time, ad nauseam ...

… then laughs out loud as an explanation point.

[hrmjustin]

278. The person just banned? i would agree.

[MrMickeysMom]

279. I'm not sure who was banned...

… I'll have to check to see. I was really laughing at the little sid.

[hrmjustin]

280. I am not going to get into the peronal stuff.

[MrMickeysMom]

281. Wouldn't expect that...

It's a waste of time.

[hrmjustin]

282. Agreed.

[BeanMusical]

139. Delirious would be a more accurate word.

I checked the cached version of the page to see what was said, lol, priceless.

[grasswire]

13. Wow! What are the charges against Greenwald again?

Or are you just one of those who has NO USE for the rule of law?

[grasswire]

23. no, the REAL CHARGES

Not what you have thrown up from your bile-hole.

[Comrade Grumpy]

25. Did you indict him yourself?

[cui bono]

37. Apparently.

And with no evidence to boot!

[malaise]

194. Of course

Rule of law is selective

[ScreamingMeemie]

18. He was invited onstage by the film maker.

[cui bono]

26. One of the filmmakers explicitly said they shared their Oscar with him.

Again, truth is so evasive to you due to your purely emotional reactions. You should stay away from politics if it hurts your feelings so much.

[NYC_SKP]

64. "Hang the fucker."?

Wow, that's harsh, MohRokTah!

[Rex]

97. Harsh is kind of mellow to describe a call for lynching a reporter.

And how many times does someone have to go to Timeout Land before they get their papers?

[BeanMusical]

155. +1

[Scuba]

189. + another

[Blue_Tires]

320. Even I wouldn't go so far as to say that...

I'd much rather see him live long enough to get exposed and ruined first...

[Ramses]

115. I was happy to see that right wing troll take two hides

[Scuba]

190. +1,000

[SidDithers]

198. ...

Come back soon, again.

Sid

[rhett o rick]

248. Will you be equally as excited if MohRokTah gets the same treatment?

Or do you approve of the call for lynching someone you don't agree with. Rhetorical, response not needed.

[BeanMusical]

288. That poster got away with it and will be back after some time off.

[rhett o rick]

296. I find that strange, but you are probably correct. nm

[cyberswede]

204. Um...

[snooper2]

232. and how did that work out for you?

[Egnever]

271. .

[sabrina 1]

143. Harsh is putting it mildly. n/t

[L0oniX]

161. Glad to see him take a vacation.

[Logical]

251. me too! Nt

[rhett o rick]

225. What is sad is that two jurors agreed with the lynching of Greenwald.

Be interesting to see if he gets banned.

[NYC_SKP]

227. Curious.

Wondering if we have trollish members pushing HRC, as this one did, just to try to divide us.

[rhett o rick]

230. Very likely. nm

[rhett o rick]

246. Dup. nm

[tammywammy]

74. I don't care for Greenwald, but your posts in this thread are over the top

I'd say you should be embarrassed, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself.

[merrily]

176. Not all that proud, apparently. He or she reigns with self deletes.

[marym625]

103. Have to wonder

What he self deleted if he thought the others were OK to leave.

Me thinks someone needs anger management classes

[Iggo]

108. Probably did it to avoid a forced DU vacation

At the rate his posts are getting hidden in this thread, I really don't blame him.

[BeanMusical]

152. Link to cached page:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pUDgTFNE45gJ:www.democraticunderground.com/10026263956+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

[marym625]

154. Thanks!

How did you do that?

That's some serious anger. Smh.

[BeanMusical]

157. You google the URL of the OP and if the page is cached you click on the little arrow

in the result(s) to see the older version of the page.

[marym625]

158. Cool! Thanks! n/t

[treestar]

146. OK but he was not chosen as a winner for one by the Academy

that is what seems to be the case. So the gloating is silly.

[cui bono]

171. That film would not exist without Glenn Greenwald and one of the filmmakers

said she shared it with him, and he was invited to share the stage with them. That says a lot. What's silly is that people would want to discredit a pulitzer prize winning journalist, enough so that someone like me would post this thread. And sadly, the reaction of Moh-whatever, is NOT silly in the least.

Oh, and I never said he was chosen as a winner. That wasn't the point of the thread.

[BeanMusical]

179. +1

[grasswire]

29. pretty scary talk there...

...all that violence directed at a journalist for publishing the truth.

[cui bono]

36. Calm down... you're having some trouble typing.

A time out may be in order.

[cui bono]

41. Come on... lay it out...

Give us the evidence. Substantiate your emotional claims.

[cui bono]

44. So no evidence.

I thought not.

[cui bono]

47. Again, no evidence. And now we see you don't like the first amendment either.

No wonder you defend and demonize who you do.

[cui bono]

52. No, what's "telling" is that you have yet to provide any evidence.

All you have is anger. And we know why you're angry. And you are the danger to our country, not Greenwald or Snowden.

[Rex]

58. And back that one goes into timeout land.

Seriously his friends will be crushed at this news.

More pretzels!

[LittleBlue]

69. I wonder how that one is still here

Such an obvious sock and disruptor. Hanging journalists on DU, seriously?

[Rex]

73. Friends in the right places.

Well maybe since pretzel warrior has now been sent many times to timeout land...you would think right? Giving his little friends the giggles as he calls for death by hanging. You know who else sounds just like that? The male assholes sending death threats to women gamers.

I have little hope in the system here, too many just don't give a dam anymore.

[LittleBlue]

87. @ whoever got all those last minute alerts in before deletion

[Rex]

92. Totally.

I just can't get over how many times they use the hater card. Glad others got to see that meltdown. GG got to hold an Oscar...ohhhh...

BFD(well it is kinda a big deal but you get my point)...worth going nuclear over?

Wow.

[NYC_SKP]

117. .

Mail Message
On Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:28 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

The Academy gave no Oscar to the traitorous bastard.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6264039

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

"Hang the fucker."???? We don't allow this on DU.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:35 PM, and voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: We don't hang fucking reporters for reporting...
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm beginning to believe some people on DU like to provoke action by being especially obnoxous.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

119. I dedicate this song to them:

https://m.

[Ramses]

118. There's ones that are on MIRT with the full knowledge and acceptance of admins

that are right wing trolls. But that is how Infested DU rolls it seems. Tells millions what a right wing infested shithole its become. We have a known homophobic racist former free republic member serving as a member of MIRT on this infiltrated site.

[liberalhistorian]

135. Really? Please tell

me that isn't true!!! If it is, then this place has really changed I the twelve years I've been here.

[sabrina 1]

148. Sad isn't it? And good Democrats are not here anymore!

[Chimeradog]

261. Sad..

I am a real democrat- not an astro turf sock puppet for billionaires....


we deserve a voice...God Bless Patricia Arquette for speaking out for average workers..I am sick of shills and hypocrisy I used to Mod a different forum and the paid shills are heartless vacant bots.....what is happening? Is intelligent discourse now illegal in the US???

I admire anyone who speaks truth and abhors hypocrisy....its been almost two decades of lies now.

[Autumn]

78. Sad to see someone on DU post that journalists should be hung.

Ugly meltdown there.

[Rex]

85. Reminds me of the gamergate assholes.

What really gets me is how often that one and his buddies are yelling about others being haters. I am glad some got to see what that posters intentions really are here.

[Autumn]

91. That was a satisfying Triple Decker lock. Those posts were the ugliest I have seen in a long

time. The admins will hopefully be giving him a good look.

[Rex]

95. True I don't remember the last time someone started calling for the lynching of a reporter.

That's fucked up right there.

[JDPriestly]

128. He/she is a strong Hillary supporter. Enough said.

[BeanMusical]

163. +1

[cyberswede]

205. I wonder...

a lot of his posts are so awful...I wonder if his goal is to make Hillary supporters look bad. I thought of this the other day when I read particularly ridiculous post, and the way it was displayed right next to his HRC avatar - kind of subliminally associated the content with her.

[LondonReign2]

239. If the goal is to make Hillary supporters look bad

RokMoh and wyldwolf have been doing kickass jobs and deserve raises

[Rex]

89. Calling for a lynching is so uncharacteristic of progressives. Wanting to kill a reporter, my my.

All because GG got to hold an Oscar. I think what we witnessed here today was a 'nuclear concern troll' meltdown. I shudder to think if that is RL anger too and the people exposed to it.

[Aerows]

99. That entire string of posts

was, frankly, downright scary.

[Electric Monk]

110. Time for Pretzel Warrior aka functioning_cog aka (?) to pull another sock out of their drawer

[cui bono]

116. If only they would put them in the laundry...

then at least half of them would get lost.

[BeanMusical]

164. Lol!

[Marr]

245. I thought that person seemed familiar. /nt

[Fuddnik]

101. Well, you have Progressives,

And on the other hand you have authoritarians.

[Rex]

107. As I've said before, the Big Tent is diverse.

Still, blowing a vein in ones forehead over GG...I think that goes beyond simple authoritarianism. Calling for the hanging of a journalist smacks of fascism.

[840high]

67. +100 truth

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

191. I don't even know what MohTahMouth said, but I admire your handling of it!

[Autumn]

40. He's no Judith Miller that's for fucking sure.

[cui bono]

42. =)

[Autumn]

59. Now come the self deletes

[cui bono]

62. Yeah, that's hilarious!

And I see the same pattern when looking at his transparency page. The first hidden post I looked at was in a thread full of his self-deletes.

[Jack Rabbit]

121. +1

!!

[pa28]

51. I've noticed you've deleted many of your own posts in your time at DU.

You might as well get it over with and delete that one right now.

[cui bono]

54. Interesting.

EDIT: S/he's doing it in this thread right now!!!!



EDIT AGAIN: S/he got a hide and didn't want to get 5 in one thread alone - since they all said the same thing - and have to wait 90 days to come back.

[QC]

55. Now he's on vacation again.

happens all the time

[cui bono]

57. Guess he didn't self-delete fast enough.

What a... oops... almost posted a hide-worthy response there.

[pa28]

81. It seems he compiled a couple of hides before he could self delete all the death threats.

When in doubt just sleep it off or you might be looking at an involuntary DU vacation.

[cui bono]

94. OMG... too funny!!!

Last edited Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:18 AM - Edit history (1)

I was considering alerting on one of the ones he left behind but didn't. I see two of them were alerted on for two more hides.

That's why reasoned discourse is best when discussing politics. When you just spout emotionally fueled, knee-jerk, foul-mouthed and unsubstantiated insults - and in this case, calls to lynch a journalist, well... sometimes you get what you deserve.

[JDPriestly]

142. Thank you.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

105. Hate-induced rage spiral accompanied by fits of self-deletion.

Some people, for reasons unknown, hate Glenn Greenwald to the point of unhealthy obsession.

[Fumesucker]

4. Come on, tell us what you really think..

[riderinthestorm]

6. Haha haha!!

Here's your ROFL smilies....





Y'all got nothing.

[cui bono]

15. Seriously. As if GG had nothing to do with the film.

Boy, hard to believe people get their little feelings so hurt over the truth when it reveals something negative about their idol.

[FarPoint]

7. I felt nausea actually.

I'm not fond of him either. Question, Isn't he British?

[ScreamingMeemie]

17. No, he is not. He was born in Queens, NY.

You might be getting all messed up over the fact that he wrote for the Guardian US.

[FarPoint]

20. Yes, his writing for the Guardian was the British connection.

I did a quick search after I posted.

[ScreamingMeemie]

24. He's as American as I am. :)

[Logical]

8. Awwww, somebody's grumpy. Naptime! Lol nt

[JaneyVee]

9. Was a really good documentary. Saw it when it was...

Playing at the Indie theater down the block. I also have it on DVD, that's one of the perks of being in the DGA/PGA union. Whether you agree with subject or not it's a well done documentary. A real life spy thriller.

[cui bono]

21. We know you refuse to look at truth.

You shouldn't get so emotional over politics, particularly over one politician. It's more important to look at the truth than it is to blindly defend another person. That's what really matters in a democracy.

[JaneyVee]

33. Give it a shot, it's on HBO tomorrow.

[MohRokTah]

34. Nope

I refuse to watch anything about the traitor Snowden.

[Logical]

49. Part of me thinks you're just fucking with us, no one can be that close minded! Nt

[Logical]

53. Well you have quite a way with words, you have impressed with your knowledge! LOL

[Rex]

60. That strange pretzel logic at work again!

I guess that one has a home in timeout land.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

72. So you've noticed and I noticed. When will the people in charge? nt

[QC]

76. It's been years since they cared what happens here. nt

[cui bono]

83. Yep. And now they opened their new playground where anything goes.

It's not like they have any standards/principles to uphold, or that they care to uphold.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

132. Yep. Absentee landlords.

[QC]

196. Have you ever lived in a neighborhood with lots

of absentee landlords?

Things turn to shit really fast, because as long as the rent checks keep coming, the landlords don't care about the condition of their properties or the behavior of the tenants.

[Rex]

79. They don't run the ship anymore.

And hosts have no right to do anything. I think a lot of people just don't care anymore and gave up on the jury system.

[Logical]

265. Yes, a little vacation. Did you mean pretzel logic or pretzel warrior? :-)

[billhicks76]

290. NSA Considered Traitors By Most Democrats

[shenmue]

10. Exactly

[bigwillq]

16. Woo Hoo!

[truebrit71]

22. And heads all over DU start exploding...

...Citizen Four is being shown on HBO tomorrow night....

[JaneyVee]

28. That's right! I saw it and def recommend it.

[Rex]

98. Someones did all over this thread.

It's like Oscar Rage or something...epic meltdown upthread.

[xocet]

151. Is Oscar Rage related to Carlos Danger? n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

124. That is complete and utter . . .

. . . NonSense.

[msanthrope]

199. It's free on the Internets. Cryptome should have it. nt

[SixString]

27. DU Rec.

[pa28]

31. Someone should tell the academy about the awful things I've read of "GG" here on DU.

And the Pulitzer comittee and various other bodies promoting freedom of information and journalistic excellence.

Glen Greenwald is a bad, bad man and we all need to be scared.

[grasswire]

35. I'm more afraid of those threatening violence against him.

And the fact that he's a gay man figures into my fear factor for him.

[cui bono]

46. And those who have already accused, indicted, tried and sentenced him.

People like that are dangerous. Especially when they are on a Democratic board.

[99th_Monkey]

70. +100 nt

[Aerows]

129. Me too

It is frightening, to be honest. I understand not liking someone or criticizing their work, but damn, calling for a lynching?

[progressoid]

39. Snort.

A little bit of anger in this thread.

[WillyT]

56. Karma...

HUGE & Rec !!!

[cui bono]

65. And yet still extremely amusing.

[merrily]

178. +1

[one_voice]

63. Greenwald is a self absorbed...

asshole among other things. That being said, the documentary is good.

[SoapBox]

68. My personal feelings...

I gagged when I saw him going on stage...yuck.

[dissentient]

71. lol, so talk about heads exploding! Some kind of explosion happend in this thread, looks like

I am seeing splatter everywhere!

But seriously, I look forward to seeing the Citizen Four documentary, it has gotten rave reviews.

[WillyT]

88. LOL !!! - Yep... "Clean-Up... Meltdown On Aisle Four..."

[dissentient]

96. Kaboom! :)

?resize=300%2C293

[zentrum]

75. K&R n/t

[DesMoinesDem]

77. Snowden's girlfriend was on stage too.

[hedda_foil]

93. Was that the young woman in the shoft tulle skirt?

I was wondering who she was.

[DesMoinesDem]

113. Yes

[QC]

102. The ballerina whose heart he so cruelly shattered?

Evil, I tells ya! He's just evil!

[pa28]

106. I seem to remember Snowden's cruel and caddish ways told us about his character.

Now they're back together but let us not forget that Snowden is still a very EVIL person and we must all be afraid.

[QC]

109. He probably threatened her!

That must surely be it!

[Aerows]

122. He menaced her

with ominous boxes sent to her garage.

[QC]

123. I heard he threatened to take away her dancin' pole!

[Aerows]

131. She doesn't talk to her neighbors

or stop to pet their dogs, though, so we'll never know which it was.

[QC]

197. Of course she doesn't talk to the neighbors--

she's too busy with her pole ballet!

[Luminous Animal]

80. Thank for a most satisfying thread! And congratulations to the filmmakers.

[cui bono]

84. My pleasure!

And I really mean that!

[HERVEPA]

86. And the record for most posts hidden for an individual in a GD thread is....

[pa28]

90. And also for best special effect.

The award for catastrophic flameout goes to . . .

[Aerows]

104. That was insane

Scary.

[deurbano]

112. And very well "deserved." (That was... epic.)

[muriel_volestrangler]

193. Also nominated: posts #125, #130, #134

Sadly their last piece of work, http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026264493 , was entered too late, and in the wrong category, though it was a worthy effort.

They will be remembered in next year's "those we don't miss" compilation.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

100. And they've won the coveted Wharrgarbl.

Everyone's a winner tonight.

[Oilwellian]

111. That was a thing of beauty

Just returning from New Orleans and this is the first thread I've opened in over a week. It just doesn't get any better. A toast to home runs! And a congrats to Mr. Greenwald for his many journalistic accomplishments!

[stone space]

114. I can't believe what I saw skimming thru this thread.

Damn!

If the posts calling for the lynching of journalists were left standing, WTF was self-deleted???

There must be dozens of self-deleted posts here.

[mountain grammy]

120. No fan of Greenwald, didn't want to see him, but will see the film.

[Hissyspit]

212. The film wouldn't have existed without him.

[mountain grammy]

218. I get that and I'll see the film.

I just think Glenn Greenwald's motives have little to do with changing the system and more to do with enriching himself and I refuse to see him as some kind of journalism god. Just my opinion formed over the years, and, as always, I could be wrong.

Personally, I think the other Greenwald has done far more to educate and inform Americans about the roots of all our problems. I like to see one of Robert Greenwald's films nominated for an Oscar.

http://www.bravenewfilms.org/

[ybbor]

126. What exactly got self deleted?

I never saw it before the band began to play them off.

[dissentient]

141. You can see the hides up above earlier in the thread if you click on them. They were pretty ugly

basically not worth repeating, just the kind of dumb death threats a right winger might say.

[cui bono]

145. Almost every post was a profanity filled, name-calling call for lynching a journalist. n/t

[ybbor]

147. So just the same as the hides?

S/He must have really liked the other films more. LOL

[ybbor]

150. And as someone who respects both GG and ES...

Thanks for the thread. Now I will need to watch the film.

[xiamiam]

177. put a lot of folks on ignore when the line was drawn in the sand here a few years ago..happy to say,

i dont see any of those ridiculous posts since then

I am so happy that Citizen Four won...congrats to all of them

and I'd like to say thank you Catherina, wherever you may be...this feels good and I cant help but think of you here at DU during those days

[Drunken Irishman]

127. Weird. With the U.S. being a police state and all, it's remarkable he's free to walk around...

[one_voice]

136. How many times you gonna post this?

If you're unhappy here there are other sites you could go to.

[herding cats]

167. It was a night for meltdowns.

Maybe there was some PUI/PWI taking place, or cabin fever from the long and crappy weather, or maybe the Oscars just make some people go nuts?

I'm staying out of any Oscar discussions. It's obviously bad for ones health tonight!

[lild]

138. Kick

for truth!

[xocet]

149. Good on Laura Poitras et al!

Citizenfour will be on HBO on Monday, February 23, 2015 at 8:00 PM Central Time.

http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/citizenfour#/

P.S.: What an epic meltdown upthread!

[NYC Liberal]

156. "Leakers should be shot in the balls." –Edward Snowden

Sorry, I don't support people who think leakers should be shot.

Nor do I particularly like people who call supporters of Social Security, "fucking retards."

Snowden is a right-wing POS. His fans are supporting this guy who said the above.

[Ikonoklast]

207. Both Snowden and Greenwald are operating under false flags.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116253/edward-snowden-glenn-greenwald-julian-assange-what-they-believe

Those damn dirty Liberals at The New Republic shoot gaping holes in both of those Libertarian tools.

Both Greenwald and Snowden are ratfuckers determined to torpedo every Democrat they set their sights on.

[snot]

159. K&R'd!

[deurbano]

160. K & R!

[SidDithers]

168. This thread is all kinds of awesome...

Buh bye frwrfpos. Come back soon, again.


Fucking zombies.

Sid

[Electric Monk]

175. frwrfpos?

I'll hazard a guess, and that's both you and skinner have 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.0.1










(edit: note to potential jurors - that's a networking joke)

[rhett o rick]

226. No one should get away with calling for the lynching of anyone. Don't you agree? nm

[Tuesday Afternoon]

235. Yep. This is one of *those* threads.

It will go down in the history of DU.

[stonecutter357]

242. I think we need your long form please.

[reorg]

172. this should go with a picture

“The disclosures that Edward Snowden revealed don’t only expose a threat to our privacy but to our democracy itself,” Poitras said in her acceptance speech. “Thank you to Edward Snowden for his courage and for the many other whistleblowers.” Snowden, in a statement released after the award was announced, said, “My hope is that this award will encourage more people to see the film and be inspired by its message that ordinary citizens, working together, can change the world.”

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/22/poitras-wins-oscar-for-citizenfour/

[Cali_Democrat]

173. Congratulations Glenn Greenwald. nt

[DeSwiss]

180. And unlike a couple of Peace Prizes.....

...that have been handed out indiscriminately for no good reason, this one is well-deserved!

- In Lak'ech Ala K'in

K&R

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

181. Bravo! Thank you again Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden.

[malaise]

186. +1,000

Well earned

[neverforget]

182. K & R for the exploding heads and pissing off the right people

[Ichingcarpenter]

183. Amazing thread and well deserved oscar

thanks.

[Jamastiene]

185. Wow, this thread.

I'm glad I prefer to stay closer to the left than cozy up to the more conservative types on DU. I'm just not into hanging anyone. That is just awful.

I wish I could see the documentary, but do not have HBO. Maybe Netflix might have it one day?

[Go Vols]

236. First link worked for me

http://www.all-movies-stream.com/film/319/Kill+the+Messenger-stream.html

[leftynyc]

187. I thought he was afraid

he was going to get arrested. Isn't that what he was trying to whine about for the last year or so? Why, I'm surprised the President himself didn't take the time to come down and arrest him. As if this award doesn't mean he's a narcissistic twit. That said, good for the filmmaker. I'm sure Snowden is thrilled he's stuck in Russia because he trusted Glenn.

[NuttyFluffers]

188. good for him!

i celebrate his accolade.

[Scuba]

192. I never would have predicted that a thread bout the Academy Awards would be my all-time favorite.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

244. I know! Right? All this stoopid in one place.

A classless classic!!

It even spawned an appreciation thread for

[cui bono]

255. Haha... I didn't see that thread. n/t

[SaveOurDemocracy]

257. When I saw your OP title I knew it wold be a hoot.

so there!

[carolinayellowdog]

195. The Reality Based Community has Spoken Once Again

Last edited Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:20 PM - Edit history (1)

meanwhile in bizarro-world I can only read 25% of the posts in this thread, but know the invisible 75% are all anti-Greenwald and anti-Snowden. (Or replies to same, which is more the case now that I look at all the invisible ones.)

[cui bono]

258. The hides were all because of profanity laced calls to lynch a journalist and

a couple from someone claiming Sid and Skinner are the same person.

99% of deletes are from the person who got three hides in this thread for using profane name-calling and calling for a pulitzer prize winning journalist to be hanged because he was trying to avoid having ten hides instead of just three.

There are a couple of other self-deletes, one of which I know was not inflammatory and was in response to the person claiming Sid and Skinner were the same person. I don't know why the other self-delete that I saw was in there.

Point being, this is NOT a case of "both sides do it". The anti-Greenwald poster, who revealed himself to be anti-first amendment and anti-rule of law, basically anti-constitution was the only one who was out of control. The people who respect GG and Snowden did nothing like that, not even close. Let that be on the record.

[carolinayellowdog]

301. Polite and justified replies are invisible if the anti-Greenwald nut to whom they reply is on ignore

Never said or meant to suggest that the bulk of the replies were invisible to me for any reason other than that. I know how badly infected DU is and has been for a long time with deranged anti-Greenwald fanatics. If ten of them show up attacking, and a hundred honest DUers reply to them, that makes 110 invisible posts, although the hundred honest DUers would never be on my ignore list.

Until that is I look at the thread without logging in.

[cui bono]

319. Ah... I see. When I read your post I was thinking "invisible" was the self-deletes.

I don't use ignore - and sometimes I wonder why I want to go crazy - so that didn't occur to me.

[WillyT]

200. Morning Kick !!!

[Cryptoad]

201. Good place for him

He fits right in with that crowd,,,,,, they can all stoke each others egos!

[jberryhill]

203. Cool, is he invited to any of the fun parties with the wealthy?

[randome]

210. Only in Ecuador.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)[/center][/font][hr]

[Jakes Progress]

206. I saw that and felt the seismic activity from DU

heads exploding.

I guess they would rather dick cheney be there.

[elias49]

208. Got it on TIVO

for when Sid comes over.

[Duval]

214. I was so surprised and

thrilled to see him with the Oscar.

[freebrew]

216. Damn...

looks like the thought police are trying very hard to make GG look bad.
He's a reporter, Snowden is a whistle-blower lacking protection from a "free" country.

Secrets don't belong in a Democratic society. Some people have a problem understanding that.
I guess they weren't here when JFK was in office. He abhorred secrecy, as is shown on another thread here.
Even Jefferson wrote of the dangers of a government that keeps secrets from the voting public.

Some people just don't get it.

[rhett o rick]

221. Hats off to all that fight for our freedoms and liberties. They are the heroes.

[Capt. Obvious]

222. This message was self-deleted by its author

[Blue_Tires]

223. Why? He didn't make the fuckin' movie....

But remember folks, don't you dare try to make this thing about Snowden and Greenwald, because *THEY ARE NOT THE STORY*

[Hissyspit]

229. The film wouldn't have happened without him.

The director invited him to come up.

"She was first contacted by Edward Snowden in January 2013 after he was unable to establish encrypted communications with Greenwald. She flew to Hong Kong in late May 2013, where over the course of eight days she filmed Snowden in his hotel room at the Mira Hotel in Hong Kong. Later, she traveled to Moscow where she filmed a second interview with Snowden conducted by Greenwald."

Petty, petty response.

[sabrina 1]

241. He's IN the 'fucking movie' which wouldn't have happened without him. And if the directors and

producers invite him, just as others who received oscars invite those who made their Oscars possible, to acknowledge as Poitras said,, the brave 'whistle blowers and JOURNALISTS' who made the Oscar possible, I'll take THEIR word that he more than deserved to be there. And they decided to allow HIM to hold the Oscar.

First a Pulitzer, now an Oscar and rave reviews about the documentary itself.

[Ichingcarpenter]

243. Glenn Greenwald is holding an Oscar on TV right now

So there.

[Marr]

249. ...

[BeanMusical]

293. ROFLMAO!

[randys1]

228. Phew, talk about "kill the messenger" ...I wish we could discuss what the docu is about

and not the character of GG.

It plays tonight on HBO...has it already been seen in theaters by some here?

[Fuddnik]

231. I'll be watching it.

And have it set up to TIVO to boot.

[bigmonkey]

234. Yes, it was excellent.

Amazing that such a dramatic series of events was captured in real time. The details discussed in the film are something everyone should be familiar with.

[KoKo]

252. Yes...it is well worth a view...

I saw it when it came out at our Arts Cinema.

[City Lights]

238. !

[NCTraveler]

240. And I was told the US is a fascist police state.

Congrats to the filmmakers.

[Blue_Tires]

247. Leakers be warned:

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/569666335418032128

[rtracey]

250. seems a lot

Seems a lot of authors are self deleting your response. If you have to remove your response, maybe you shouldn't put in up in the first place.

[rhett o rick]

253. Those that value freedom see whistle-blowers and investigative journalists as heroes, while the

Conservative Authoritarians despise them, and anyone that dares speak truth to power.

[bvar22]

259. WOW!!!

An Oscar and a Pulitzer Prize in the same year.
Well Done, Snowden & Greenwald!!!!

[KG]

260. rec for causing all the right heads to explode and earn a vacay.

[woo me with science]

262. K&R

Thank you, brave whistleblowers and journalists.

[WillyT]

264. Dear cui bono... Thank You For Starting One Of The Top Ten Threads In DU History !!!

Recs: 152

Replies: 263

Views: 11921

As of this posting...

Over a story that was "nothing new", that we all knew about... and mattered little...

The reaction says alot about us all...

I salute you !!!





One for the ages...



Thank You.

[cui bono]

267. Haha... I was noticed and thanked by WillyT!!! Wow!

I've finally made it.

[WillyT]

268. You've Always Been There My Friend...

[cui bono]

270. Aw shucks...

[whereisjustice]

266. Authoritarian concern trolls will be the first ones to tattoo a barcode on their forehead

and come back to tell us all how awesome it feels to be a great patriot.

"Greenwald is a traitor! Snowden is a traitor!"

LMFAO at the pearl clutching.

People with drive, passion and courage are reminding us all that our government's obsession with citizen surveillance has gone completely off the rails, putting us all at risk.

But no. That's not what matters.

What matters? How dare anyone go off script and embarrass our President.

That's the inconvenient truth isn't it?

NSA and CIA have become a clear and present danger to our country.

Look at Iraq and see their handiwork.

Fuck the security concern trolls.

Greenwald and Snowden are classic American heroes.

[George II]

269. For all the abuse that so-called "Snowden-haters" get, his and Greenwald's supporters....

....sure have attitudes. This is the SECOND post about that Academy Award last night (there was another one earlier, too), both confrontational.

[WillyT]

272. "the abuse that so-called "Snowden-haters" get"

Have YOU been accused of treason???

Threatened with arrest and imprisonment ???

Life in prison ???

Death by Hanging???

Spare me ...

[dissentient]

273. ....

[betsuni]

274. Yes, they do an awful lot of projecting.

Accusing others of authoritarianism while marching in lock step together.

[Progressive dog]

275. So Glenn has an award for entertainment.

That shouldn't be surprising.

[whereisjustice]

283. As Michael Moore showed us with 9/11, a good documentary makes the truth engaging even when it is

inconvenient and embarrassing to those in power.

[DeSwiss]

292. That's the best you could come up with?

- Oh. Never mind. You're one of those progressives.

[BeanMusical]

294. Yes, that's pathetic.

[Progressive dog]

310. Yes it was, simply because it is true.

Snowden making good entertainment (according to the Academy-not my opinion) has nothing to do with either Snowden's importance or truthiness.

[cui bono]

317. You are wrong. Documentaries are not all made for entertainment.

In fact, this one was made for informational purposes. But I'm sure you know that. You just wanted to make a snide remark against GG and Snowden. The only thing you accomplished by that is to show that you are either an NSA apologist, trying to smear/ridicule GG and Snowden or are encredibly ignorant of the power of documentaries to get out extremely important information. Information that the corporate media doesn't provide us.

So tell me, why do you want to lessen the importance of GG and Snowden and documentaries in general?

[billhicks76]

291. DU Sock Puppets?

I have a question. I'm not familiar with people here personally so maybe someone else knows. Why do I see the same disrupters tagteaming on NSA threads always. It's the only place I really see them and they are always heavily weighted to NSA or CIA support and personally attack those who don't support Soviet style surveillance if the American people. They also always try to derail thoughtful dialogue and hijack threads into obscenities or distracting ad hominems. After reading so many articles about people paid by military contractors to control conversations online and "manage" public opinion I wonder if DU is as immune to this as it thinks it is.

[Cryptoad]

298. so let us get this right,,,

everybody on DU whose opinion disagrees with yours, is a sock puppet !?

[billhicks76]

304. Nope

Just stating facts

[Cryptoad]

309. Facts,,,, that's funny

[billhicks76]

313. You're So Diligent

NSA must be really proud of you.

[Cryptoad]

314. I bet not as proud as Papa Paul is of you.

[billhicks76]

315. Wow That Was Quick

Can I hire you or does NSA pay too much to let you go. Someone should rewrite your talking points because no one here likes Ron Paul even if we all oppose wars both foreign and domestic. What a joke

[Douglas Carpenter]

295. knr

[Autumn]

299. This thread is still delightful.

[WillyT]

302. Yes It Is...

[cui bono]

318. Tee-Hee...

[billhicks76]

316. NSA Trolls Taking Over This Thread

Where are the moderators.

[Fumesucker]

322. There haven't been mods for years now..

There are hosts and they do not interfere in threads, only lock ones that are against the TOS which this one isn't.

[billhicks76]

324. Yeah I Know

It's just pathetic how many trolls there are here. You know they are paid.

[Blue_Tires]

321. Not bad for a failed attorney and one-time producer of low-grade gay porn

(somebody had to say it sooner or later)

[cui bono]

323. Wow, you came back days later just to say that?

GG must really threaten you.