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derby378

(30,252 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:16 PM Feb 2015

Local Fox anchor complains about Lady Gaga’s ‘jigaboo music’ during Oscars coverage

Kristi Capel, an anchor for Cleveland’s Fox 8, complained about “jigaboo music” during Monday morning coverage of the Academy Awards.

WJW New in the Morning anchor Wayne Dawson reported on Monday that singer Lady Gaga had performed a tribute for the 50th anniversary of the Sound of Music at Sunday night’s Oscars.

...

“It’s hard to really hear her voice with all the jigaboo music — whatever you want to call it — jigaboo!” Capel opined.

“She has a nice voice,” Dawson, who is black, said after a nervous laugh.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/local-fox-anchor-complains-about-lady-gagas-jigaboo-music-during-oscars-coverage/

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Local Fox anchor complains about Lady Gaga’s ‘jigaboo music’ during Oscars coverage (Original Post) derby378 Feb 2015 OP
Fox anchor accidentally says COLGATE4 Feb 2015 #1
See how bold people are getting? Things never got better in America. bravenak Feb 2015 #2
Her apology is what seals the deal for me. Gormy Cuss Feb 2015 #4
"I didn't know what it meant, that it's even a word" salin Feb 2015 #11
when you are not sure what a word means, the wise... 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #81
What a lame excuse Long Drive Feb 2015 #122
And trying to claim she wasn't even sure if... 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #123
I knew about that word and I'm an Australian living in Holland!! n/t SwissTony Feb 2015 #126
another one of those "mistakes were made" affairs. calimary Feb 2015 #98
They have been getting bolder and bolder awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #116
I was not surprised.nt bravenak Feb 2015 #117
I hear you... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #120
OMG! I haven't heard 'that word' in ages. Purveyor Feb 2015 #3
I know, it's a word my mother used to use when we were little notadmblnd Feb 2015 #23
I haven't missed it. At all. n/t winter is coming Feb 2015 #24
Yes, not for about 40 years from my Uncles... weird... winstars Feb 2015 #65
My grandfather, who fought in WWI, used that word phylny Feb 2015 #92
I find it amusing that she thought the 'Sound of Music' was 'Porgy & Bess' tenderfoot Feb 2015 #5
I've got a lovely song for Kristi right here... derby378 Feb 2015 #9
I loved that commercial!! KeepItReal Feb 2015 #27
Actually, mice are quite intelligent. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #31
really, you can't get any whiter than the sound of music & julie andrews! FFS spanone Feb 2015 #32
Don't Insult the Mice! redstatebluegirl Feb 2015 #103
Nicely done! Tom Ripley Feb 2015 #114
Wow. zappaman Feb 2015 #6
Saying that to a black man's face. Good thing the co anchor kept his composure. alp227 Feb 2015 #7
I don't know, but if she gets fired, she can be the spokesperson for this company derby378 Feb 2015 #8
I was buying some silicone lubricant for the slide on my RV and I saw that stuff tularetom Feb 2015 #17
I was expecing Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #64
What the He**? Lifelong Protester Feb 2015 #10
Well people use the word "maroon" for people here gollygee Feb 2015 #12
Where did you hear that? derby378 Feb 2015 #14
I think it's more common knowledge than the etymology of "jigaboo" gollygee Feb 2015 #15
Wow... derby378 Feb 2015 #25
Maybe my knowledge comes from my specific situation gollygee Feb 2015 #42
Same here deutsey Feb 2015 #48
it was. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #56
That's all it was. It was Bug Bunny's way of saying moron. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #74
The characters Bugs referred to as maroons (a/k/a morons) hifiguy Feb 2015 #85
No shit? Whoa! Orrex Feb 2015 #52
Same here... TeeYiYi Feb 2015 #79
Never heard that usage before.. DCBob Feb 2015 #104
Thats what Bugs said "Whata moroon" But most of the comics back thin sometimes were not LiberalArkie Feb 2015 #75
and in this case, the political incorrectness had to do with the mentally retarded, not racial ND-Dem Feb 2015 #89
NOT maroons, morans hedda_foil Feb 2015 #88
please don't further cloud the facts. "moron" = the dictionary word for a person of subnormal ND-Dem Feb 2015 #100
Of course they do! It's from Bugs Bunny cartoons tularetom Feb 2015 #18
There is racism in cartoons of that era gollygee Feb 2015 #19
'maroon' also means a reddish-brown color. does that have racist connotations too? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #59
There are three uses of the word gollygee Feb 2015 #63
There's actually more than that, since regardless of its origins, "to maroon" used as a verb ND-Dem Feb 2015 #73
"Maroon" is not a racist term. Xithras Feb 2015 #26
It isn't an insult, but it is racial gollygee Feb 2015 #34
It's not true because you don't believe it? Xithras Feb 2015 #77
It's not so obscure gollygee Feb 2015 #80
I've always assumed that was based on the color. Xithras Feb 2015 #82
plenty of highschools use the "maroon" as a mascot? none in the leagues my HS played in. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #99
The one I went to used it gollygee Feb 2015 #101
yours did. that's one. i did a search: ND-Dem Feb 2015 #105
The name of the Florida Indian tribe ("Seminole") is supposedly derived from it. And I ND-Dem Feb 2015 #66
I honestly did not know that. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #33
The "shipwrecked" and other use of the word are related. gollygee Feb 2015 #37
I had no idea "maroon" had a racial subtext. I just hear Bugs Bunny's voice saying it. Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #44
We usually say "moran" KamaAina Feb 2015 #68
That's what I see more of here at DU... Phentex Feb 2015 #90
"Jigaboo" has no other denotation or connotation than as a highly negative slur on black people. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #69
Seems rather likely. LanternWaste Feb 2015 #127
could be. but then i'd think i'd see it in print somewhere, & i've been unable to find any ND-Dem Feb 2015 #131
Somebody needs to tell this guy also... snooper2 Feb 2015 #71
As others have said... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #119
I didn't know that Catherine Vincent Feb 2015 #121
One would expect a news reader to be educated. lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #13
Sweet Jesus that's fucked up ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #16
Her apology is that she didn't know it was a word? onenote Feb 2015 #20
Lol, yet she said the word. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #39
She might as well have called it N***** music aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2015 #21
So she dogs out Lady Gaga's music, then says "she has a gorgeous voice"? KeepItReal Feb 2015 #22
Her co-host said "she has a beautiful voice". louis-t Feb 2015 #55
Amended with "Gorgeous" KeepItReal Feb 2015 #62
It's very possible that Newsbunny Kristi doesn't know LeftinOH Feb 2015 #28
Yikes! It's DROP DEAD GORGEOUS meets DUMB AND DUMBER! derby378 Feb 2015 #35
I don't know what a word means, but I'll use it on live TV to diss Lady Gaga's music? KeepItReal Feb 2015 #41
She's from Missouri and had never heard the word Jigaboo before? Sheepshank Feb 2015 #76
That is a tough... 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #83
Nice Catch! ProfessorGAC Feb 2015 #128
I haven't heard that word used since the early 80's geomon666 Feb 2015 #29
I vaguely recall the word. riversedge Feb 2015 #30
I'm in my fifties, and I've never heard it before. Had no idea what... MANative Feb 2015 #40
Yes and it was a insult in that movie (Spike Lee's "School Daze") KeepItReal Feb 2015 #43
A good rural Pentecostal girl indeed. Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #36
Fox affiliates and the terrorist organization, Fox News, are very different. randys1 Feb 2015 #38
Roller derby?? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2015 #78
My hero was Charlie O'Connell randys1 Feb 2015 #86
Ann Calvello and her hair! Adsos Letter Feb 2015 #112
Offensive in any case, but absolutely baffling for a medley of Rodgers & Hammerstein show tunes. tanyev Feb 2015 #45
I think she used the slur to refer to Gaga's pre-Tony Bennett material derby378 Feb 2015 #50
Oh, that makes more sense. Still a horrible thing to say. tanyev Feb 2015 #58
i think she was trying to say that she couldn't hear gaga's voice in gaga's 'typical' songs because ND-Dem Feb 2015 #110
“I apologize if I offended you, I had no idea it was a word or what it meant. Thank you yellowcanine Feb 2015 #46
Apologies don't include the word "if" KeepItReal Feb 2015 #47
Well thank GAWD she did not call it jungle (fuzzy little rabbit) music! yellowcanine Feb 2015 #49
Vapidity, thy name is Kristi Capel n/t deutsey Feb 2015 #51
Ohhhh, that one's gonna leave a mark. louis-t Feb 2015 #53
wtf? he said that on TV? that is a no-holds barred racial slur. no way to disguise it as ND-Dem Feb 2015 #54
You mean "she," right? derby378 Feb 2015 #57
yes. i read too quick because i was actually shocked that anyone would say that on tv. and ND-Dem Feb 2015 #61
I swear, if some shithead called Obama a n*gger live on Meet the Press, there's be 20 DUers to offer alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #60
That hasn't happened yet? KamaAina Feb 2015 #72
Just a matter of time. MerryBlooms Feb 2015 #97
Racist is as racist does AC_Mem Feb 2015 #67
Has my grandpa come back to life? KamaAina Feb 2015 #70
Did she confuse Gaga with Jennifer Hudson rocktivity Feb 2015 #84
FYI, there is a live orchestra playing from a studio at Capitol Records nearby, saving room in the Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #95
Then it WAS piped in -- the orchestra behind Gaga clearly wasn't real rocktivity Feb 2015 #96
her apology this morning Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 #87
Rec to expose her stupidity. Gag! Cha Feb 2015 #91
I don't buy for a minute that she didn't know what it meant. She used it in a pejorative manner. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #93
Is this 1925? Throd Feb 2015 #94
What a stupid, ignorant person. blue neen Feb 2015 #102
Aside from being a racist and stupid comment it doesn't even make sense. DCBob Feb 2015 #106
That's why I think she really meant Jennifer Hudson: rocktivity Feb 2015 #124
The FOX anchors on the national outlet are typically educated at elite schools. They just play dumb ND-Dem Feb 2015 #107
LOL! woolldog Feb 2015 #108
She and her co-anchor would make a great 'ooops, my mistake' comedy routine if they worked at it. VScott Feb 2015 #109
She must have been referring to the violins Enrique Feb 2015 #111
WTF? Tom Ripley Feb 2015 #113
"Dawson, who is black, said after a nervous laugh" awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #115
IMO: Dawson's composure was commendable. In_The_Wind Feb 2015 #125
aw mai gawd... NuttyFluffers Feb 2015 #118
Maybe she thought it sounded like spooky Irish dance music. KamaAina Feb 2015 #129
Freakin WOW!!! uponit7771 Feb 2015 #130
Ohio anchor taken off the air after using racial slur in live recap of Lady Gaga's Oscar performance PoliticAverse Feb 2015 #132
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. See how bold people are getting? Things never got better in America.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:18 PM
Feb 2015

People try to say things have improved since the 60's but that is a bald faced lie if you are black. This shit never ends.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
4. Her apology is what seals the deal for me.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:21 PM
Feb 2015

It's the "not my fault that you're offended" nonapology apology. She said jigaboo twice, as if to make sure people heard what she said.

salin

(48,955 posts)
11. "I didn't know what it meant, that it's even a word"
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:32 PM
Feb 2015

she says in her nonapology.

Right.

What she really means is 'everyone here says stuff like this all the time, so I didn't think it was a big deal to say it on-air.'

as you note - she says it.... twice.

3catwoman3

(24,018 posts)
81. when you are not sure what a word means, the wise...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:47 PM
Feb 2015

...choice would be to refrain from using it.

 

Long Drive

(105 posts)
122. What a lame excuse
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:33 AM
Feb 2015

She is using words on TV and has no idea of the meaning, but she uses that word twice...fucking bullshit.

3catwoman3

(24,018 posts)
123. And trying to claim she wasn't even sure if...
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:19 AM
Feb 2015

...it was a word. Did she just happen to string those syllables together purely by chance? Ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-ight!

calimary

(81,367 posts)
98. another one of those "mistakes were made" affairs.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:46 PM
Feb 2015

I'm sorry IF anyone was offended.

Two words were left off: "MY ASS."

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
23. I know, it's a word my mother used to use when we were little
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:56 PM
Feb 2015

at least 50 years. The only other time I've heard that word used was in error. My nephew who had just graduated high school in the late 80's was trying to explain what he wanted to become. He meant to use the word gigolo but it came out jigaboo. We all had a good laugh at the time since he is very dark complexioned. He never did become a gigolo. He became quality expert helping companies implement their ISO standards.

phylny

(8,383 posts)
92. My grandfather, who fought in WWI, used that word
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:02 PM
Feb 2015

and died in 1976. I haven't heard it since. Thank God.

tenderfoot

(8,438 posts)
5. I find it amusing that she thought the 'Sound of Music' was 'Porgy & Bess'
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:23 PM
Feb 2015

Fucking hell conservatives are dumber than a bag of mice.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
31. Actually, mice are quite intelligent.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:06 PM
Feb 2015

I agree with your overall point though. Conservatives seem to be getting even dumber as time goes on too.

alp227

(32,037 posts)
7. Saying that to a black man's face. Good thing the co anchor kept his composure.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:23 PM
Feb 2015

Sheesh. I wonder what that woman's handle on YouTube is?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
17. I was buying some silicone lubricant for the slide on my RV and I saw that stuff
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:46 PM
Feb 2015

It's apparently a Canadian product made in Quebec, where French is widely spoken so it may mean something else.

Doesn't make it any less offensive of course. I'd be surprised to find out they haven't been criticized for it before now.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
12. Well people use the word "maroon" for people here
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:37 PM
Feb 2015

As in "what a maroon" when that's a racial word - it refers to escaped slaves.

I believe she didn't know what it means just like I believe the people here at DU who say "What a maroon!" don't know what that means. A good question to find out whether she had any understanding of the word would be, "What did you mean by 'jigaboo?'" She meant something, and she meant something negative.

And of course when she did learn she should have said, "I had no idea and I'm terribly sorry" or something, but as I understand it she did a non-apology instead.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
14. Where did you hear that?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:41 PM
Feb 2015

I always understood "maroon" to be a corruption of "moron" ever since it was used in Warner Brothers cartoons.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
25. Wow...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:00 PM
Feb 2015

Thanks for the links. I had no bloody idea at all.

Considering the context, however, I think it's easier to claim ignorance about "maroon" than it is to do the same for "jigaboo." There's just no defense for that.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
42. Maybe my knowledge comes from my specific situation
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:20 PM
Feb 2015

and I didn't know the specifics of "jigaboo" but it was firmily connected to "the n word" in my head so I had some understanding.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
48. Same here
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:28 PM
Feb 2015

That is really eye-opening. I always thought it was Bugs Bunny's funny way of saying "moron".

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
74. That's all it was. It was Bug Bunny's way of saying moron.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:05 PM
Feb 2015

I quoted Bugs several times. I certainly wasn't using maroon in a racial context. Maroon is so seldom used in a racial context these days it has almost lost that meaning altogether. As a matter of fact I have never heard the word used in a racial context in my entire life and I am 62.

We were taught the racial meaning of maroon when I was in third grade geography. The only time I have heard it since is from Bugs Bunny.

So....BFD!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
85. The characters Bugs referred to as maroons (a/k/a morons)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
Feb 2015

were inevitably the dumb as rocks Yosemite Sam type of villains whom he could outwit in his sleep. Only meaning I ever ascribed to the word is the one I learned from Bugs.

Orrex

(63,217 posts)
52. No shit? Whoa!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:35 PM
Feb 2015

I always thought that "maroon" was Bugs Bunny mispronouncing "moron."


I had no idea.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
79. Same here...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:33 PM
Feb 2015

...and I still believe that's what Bugs Bunny was saying. He used to use twisted words like "maroon" and "ignoramus" to refer to characters he considered to be idiots or extremely foolish.

The term "maroon" was also used by Warner Brothers in the Roger Rabbit movie from the late 80s. I don't believe the term was ever meant to have a "slave" connotation.

TYY



DCBob

(24,689 posts)
104. Never heard that usage before..
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:49 PM
Feb 2015

I am sure the vast majority of people who use maroon as a slang use it like Bugs Bunny.. "what a maroon!".. or "what an idiot"... as others have mentioned earlier.

LiberalArkie

(15,722 posts)
75. Thats what Bugs said "Whata moroon" But most of the comics back thin sometimes were not
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:08 PM
Feb 2015

very politically correct.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
89. and in this case, the political incorrectness had to do with the mentally retarded, not racial
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:56 PM
Feb 2015

minorities.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
100. please don't further cloud the facts. "moron" = the dictionary word for a person of subnormal
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:03 PM
Feb 2015

IQ.

"moran" = some moron's misspelling of that word, and

"maroon" = bugs bunny's euphemism for that word.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
19. There is racism in cartoons of that era
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:50 PM
Feb 2015

including Bugs Bunny. Being in a Bugs Bunny cartoon doesn't dismiss the reality of what that word means.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
59. 'maroon' also means a reddish-brown color. does that have racist connotations too?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:46 PM
Feb 2015

of course there was racism in the cartoons of that era. doesn't mean 'maroon' is an example of same.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
63. There are three uses of the word
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:48 PM
Feb 2015

The color is one

The second and third are related. When referring to people, it's about escaped slaves and their descendants. And then to be marooned originally comes from the fact that escaped slaves lived "marooned" on islands.

When referring to people, it's referring to escaped slaves.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
73. There's actually more than that, since regardless of its origins, "to maroon" used as a verb
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:00 PM
Feb 2015

now means to leave someone stranded. And a maroon is also a firecracker in the UK. and if I looked through some dictionaries I bet I'd find a few more.


↔maroon - an exploding firework used as a warning signal

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/firework


Ajax implies, Ulysses marooned him, although Philoctetes is at least still alive hecause he did not come to Troy with Ulysses (13.45-55; Bomer at 13.5-122, ...

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1558493999


Just because a word originated in a context of racism doesn't mean that's its current usage or connotation.

e.g. 'cimarron' (Spanish word from which maroon' was derived) is also another name for the drink 'mate'. Does that mean if we drink mate we're promoting racism?)

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
26. "Maroon" is not a racist term.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:00 PM
Feb 2015

"Maroon" is simply a corruption of the Spanish word cimarron, which means "runaway". In Jamaica, many of these escaped slaves ended up forming communities in the mountains, taking the name "Maroons" for themselves. After the British took over Jamaica, the Maroons fought and lost the Maroon wars while trying to establish their independence. Their descendants still live in Jamaica today, and still call themselves the Maroons. It's not an insult.

The use of Maroon in American English comes entirely from cartoons, and isn't related to the Maroons in the Carribbean. Censors wouldn't let Warner Brothers use the word "moron" in a cartoon, so they invented the use of "maroon" as a joke. In the 1940's, the word "moron" was pretty much synonymous with "stupid". The joke with Bugs Bunny was that he was really calling people "stupid", but didn't even know how to pronounce the word correctly, thereby demonstrating his own stupidity. The move satisfied the censors and was pretty funny at the time. "Moron" has different connotations today, so we don't really get that joke any longer.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
34. It isn't an insult, but it is racial
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:12 PM
Feb 2015

and I don't believe that they didn't know the meaning of "maroon" although I am aware they were making a joke based on a mispronounciation of "moron" also.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
77. It's not true because you don't believe it?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:13 PM
Feb 2015

Can you name every ethnic group on the planet? I can't. There are tens of thousands of them.

And the fact that a word happens to coincide with the name of an ethnic group doesn't automatically make it an insult. It's the intention of the use of the word in relation to that group that determines whether or not it's an insult. A Dane can be a dog or a person from Denmark. Turkey is a country with over 70 million people, it's also an insult that means you're dumb and mean.

Nobody has ever come up with any realistic explanation as to why some comedy writers in 1940's Los Angeles would have decided to insult an obscure ethnic group that 99% of Americans had never even heard of. It's a coincidence, nothing more. There's plenty of real racism in the old cartoons to complain about, but this isn't it.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
80. It's not so obscure
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:41 PM
Feb 2015

There are plenty of high schools that use it as a mascot, just as "Redskins" is used as a mascot.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
82. I've always assumed that was based on the color.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:08 PM
Feb 2015

The names of the athletic teams at Stanford are the Cardinals. That has nothing to do with the bird or the really awful baseball team back east, but is a reference to the schools official color...cardinal red. Back in the 1800's, and even into the 1900's, a lot of schools considered mascots to be a bit undignified. Schools without mascots were generally referred by by their school colors. Many of them adopted mascots as time went on, but not all did.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
99. plenty of highschools use the "maroon" as a mascot? none in the leagues my HS played in.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:00 PM
Feb 2015

where are these "plenty of " high schools?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
101. The one I went to used it
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:10 PM
Feb 2015

but changed it in the late 60s for this reason. "Plenty" doesn't = "at least one in every high school league." And I imagine other schools have changed their mascot throughout the years.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
105. yours did. that's one. i did a search:
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:50 PM
Feb 2015
From 1881 to the 1930’s, we had no particular mascot. We were the "Maroons" because our athletic team "colors" became maroon and white somewhere around 1920...some Texas high schools decided they needed an animal mascot, but we resisted the trend until 1953 when two new high schools were formed in Austin.... Some began to ask "What’s a Maroon"? To answer that question, then and now, we just tell them that a "Maroon" is someone who wears maroon and boosts Austin High...The "Mister Maroo" Mascot was officially adopted by the Student Council in 1965-66...

http://www.austinhighmaroons.org/school-facts-and-history.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_F._Austin_High_School_(Austin,_Texas)



Central's mascot is a maroon bear, Max Maroon,and the school colors are maroon and white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champaign_Central_High_School



The school mascot is a pirate. The Maroons won their first Class 5A Football Championship in 2014 against Graves County by a score of 14-7....Colors: Maroon and white



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulaski_County_High_School_(Kentucky)



In 2003, Chief Maroon was removed as Elgin's mascot. Colors: maroon & cream.

(Chief maroon was a Native American chief)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_High_School_(Illinois)



Perry Jr. High School - Home of the Perry Maroons (colors maroon & white)

When I searched the site for "mascot," I got this story:

Johnny Skinner
Class of ‘48

John Skinner started life as any other young person in Perry, but when he was nine...he had polio. He suffered months of tests, isolation, hospitalization, surgeries, casts and braces.

Coach Hump Daniels...him to be the mascot of the Perry High Football team. Wrestling coach John Divine asked John to take on the same responsibilities for the wrestling team. These two activities gave John a new lease on life... He...was named "Most All Around Student" of his senior class.

John's participation in the national March of Dimes drive, to eradicate the new devastating disease of polio is notable! The first year, Noble County designated $150 as its goal, which John made his own personal goal. Through hours of personal contacts with community people, students, and going door-to-door--even meeting the buses that came through Perry--he attained that goal....Throughout high school he worked in the drive. His senior year he personally collected over $10,000--a remarkable sum for those times. John received a personal thank you letter from President Roosevelt.

http://perry.k12.ok.us/index.php/community/perry-alumni-association/alumni-honor-roll-2007/



Seems to me the commonality for all these schools is their school colors: maroon + white or cream.

None of their mascots (where they have one; some don't) have any commonalities.










 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
66. The name of the Florida Indian tribe ("Seminole") is supposedly derived from it. And I
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:51 PM
Feb 2015

agree with you, the slur was on the mentally retarded, not on black people.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
33. I honestly did not know that.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:11 PM
Feb 2015

I use moran, because of that sign that Republican protestor had that time that said, "Get a brain, morans."

I always thought maroon was a verb and meant something like shipwrecked. I thought people were just still joking about the morans sign.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
37. The "shipwrecked" and other use of the word are related.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:13 PM
Feb 2015

The original escaped slaves lived "marooned" on islands in the Caribbean.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
44. I had no idea "maroon" had a racial subtext. I just hear Bugs Bunny's voice saying it.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:23 PM
Feb 2015

In the future I will not write it (as I have a couple times to use what I thought was an old-timey mild insult).

Jigaboo, however -- that one is obviously on par with the worst racial slurs you can think of.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
69. "Jigaboo" has no other denotation or connotation than as a highly negative slur on black people.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:52 PM
Feb 2015

"Maroon" does. In fact, I've never heard it used as a slur referring to black people, though I'm aware of its origins and certainly may have missed something in 70 years of living.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
127. Seems rather likely.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:14 PM
Feb 2015

"I've never heard it used as a slur referring to black people, though I'm aware of its origins and certainly may have missed something in 70 years of living..."

Seems rather likely.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
131. could be. but then i'd think i'd see it in print somewhere, & i've been unable to find any
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:27 PM
Feb 2015

such reference.

though it's easy to find same about the 'j' word.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
71. Somebody needs to tell this guy also...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:58 PM
Feb 2015

Wait, wasn't this video a star OP here for another reason



anyway-



 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
119. As others have said...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:32 PM
Feb 2015

I wasn't aware of the negative implications of "maroon". I thought it was a Bugs Bunny thing.

Catherine Vincent

(34,491 posts)
121. I didn't know that
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:31 AM
Feb 2015

I've seen it plenty of times here and never used it but for some reason, I thought it was from a bugs bunny cartoon.

onenote

(42,724 posts)
20. Her apology is that she didn't know it was a word?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:53 PM
Feb 2015

Whoever hired her should be looking for a new job too.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
39. Lol, yet she said the word.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:14 PM
Feb 2015

If she didn't know it was a word, why did she use the word? Wow, it seems like almost all conservative apologies are non-apologies and full of lies.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
22. So she dogs out Lady Gaga's music, then says "she has a gorgeous voice"?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 02:55 PM
Feb 2015

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If she had actually watched the Academy Awards, that Fox host would have heard the classy, non-"jigaboo", performance by Lady Gaga.

How her cohost can sit there with her everyday is beyond me.

LeftinOH

(5,356 posts)
28. It's very possible that Newsbunny Kristi doesn't know
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:01 PM
Feb 2015

what "jigaboo" means. She is a former beauty queen, after all... that is why she is doing the news now. Newsbunnies aren't chosen for their smarts. Here is a picture of her while she was training for a Newsbunny job:

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
41. I don't know what a word means, but I'll use it on live TV to diss Lady Gaga's music?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:19 PM
Feb 2015

So what term did miss Capel mean to use to describe the works of Lady Gaga?

ProfessorGAC

(65,110 posts)
128. Nice Catch!
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:23 PM
Feb 2015

Although, maybe i'm more familiar with it because of age. I'm a heck of lot older than her. Maybe it has fallen into disuse even in MO.

But, i did hear it from my father in law up until the year he died.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
40. I'm in my fifties, and I've never heard it before. Had no idea what...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:16 PM
Feb 2015

the fuss was, because the word was totally unknown to me.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
43. Yes and it was a insult in that movie (Spike Lee's "School Daze")
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:21 PM
Feb 2015

It was used in a musical number pitting light-skinned African-Americans vs darker-skinned African-Americans.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
36. A good rural Pentecostal girl indeed.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:13 PM
Feb 2015
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Capel

"Kristi Marie Capel (born 1983) is a beauty queen from Springfield, Missouri who has competed in the Miss USA pageant.

A native of Florence, Kentucky who later moved to Missouri, Capel won the Miss Missouri USA title in a state pageant held in late 2005. It was her first attempt at that title, however she had placed in the top fifteen of the Miss Kentucky USA pageant the year previously. As Miss Missouri USA Capel was a representative of the Vanbros organization.

Capel represented Missouri in the Miss USA 2006 pageant broadcast live from Baltimore, Maryland in April 2006. She did not place in the pageant, which was won by the delegate from her former home state, Tara Conner, Miss Kentucky USA.

Capel graduated from Heritage Academy (a parochial school affiliated with the Assemblies of God) in Kentucky in 2001. She won a sports scholarship to Evangel University, a religious school affiliated with the Assemblies of God, where she completed a Bachelor of Science degree in Broadcasting and Public Relations with honors in 2005. She plans to continue her education with a Meteorology degree in order to become a meteorologist for a major network."

Capel was born and raised in Kentucky. Grimes had no chance of winning with a black in the Whitehouse.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
38. Fox affiliates and the terrorist organization, Fox News, are very different.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:13 PM
Feb 2015

I think the affiliates are completely independent of whatever network they affiliate with and are owned separately etc.

A great example is KTVU Channel 2 of the San Francisco Bay Area.

I recall as a kid loving that channel, before it was Fox affiliated, as it was a non network local channel with all my favorite dumb sitcoms on all day long ANd it also had ROLLER DERBY

When Fox became a network Channel 2 affiliated with them as did many others, long before anyone could have known, I assume, that they were to affiliate with such ignorance and hate that is Fox News.

Fox and FX and FXX programming are of course not reflective at all of Fox News, as well.


If I am wrong about any of this I will gladly be corrected, this is what I recall.



 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
78. Roller derby??
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:23 PM
Feb 2015

When I was a kid we watched roller derby in lively black and white instead of living color.

It was hilarious. The girls fought dirtier than the boys. We used the terms
"roller derby elbow" which was an elbow to the gut to keep the person behind you from getting ahead. Or there was the taking off of the helmet and beating hell out of an opposing team member on the track. Or making them go flying into the rail, hitting them in the gut, and going over the rail headfirst.

It was always the San Francisco Bay Area Bombers versus the Northwest Cardinals, and the big star was Joanie Weston.

We lived in Texas, so I am not sure which affiliate it came from. Probably the one you're talking about, KTVU.


Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
112. Ann Calvello and her hair!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:31 PM
Feb 2015

Dyed her hair various colors (including purple, and platinum blonde iirc) for different matches.

And she was considered the mean one, iirc...

My mom was addicted to Roller Derby, so I grew up with it. Go Bay Area Bombers!

derby378

(30,252 posts)
50. I think she used the slur to refer to Gaga's pre-Tony Bennett material
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:31 PM
Feb 2015

ChickMagic was a big fan of hers, made me call into the local Top 40 station to request Bad Romance on Thanksgiving Day, and turned the radio up to 11 in the car when it started playing, singing and dancing to the music. Needless to say, she got the CD for Christmas.

I think Ginny wanted to adopt Gaga if nobody else wanted her. Turns out she has a supportive if occasionally bemused family, which is terrific.

tanyev

(42,588 posts)
58. Oh, that makes more sense. Still a horrible thing to say.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:44 PM
Feb 2015

If you aren't sure what a word means, don't use it. Especially in a public forum.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
110. i think she was trying to say that she couldn't hear gaga's voice in gaga's 'typical' songs because
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:19 PM
Feb 2015

of the ('j-word' music/background) but in the rogers and Hammerstein, she could hear gaga's voice, so she just noticed gaga had a good voice.

I *think* that's what she meant.


Capel remarked that she had also been surprised by Lady Gaga’s performance.

“It’s hard to really hear her voice with all the jigaboo music — whatever you want to call it — jigaboo!” Capel opined.

“She has a nice voice,” Dawson, who is black, said after a nervous laugh.

She has a gorgeous voice,” Capel agreed. “I never knew. Very nice.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/local-fox-anchor-complains-about-lady-gagas-jigaboo-music-during-oscars-coverage/

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
46. “I apologize if I offended you, I had no idea it was a word or what it meant. Thank you
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:25 PM
Feb 2015

for watching." Oh well alrighty then!

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
49. Well thank GAWD she did not call it jungle (fuzzy little rabbit) music!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:31 PM
Feb 2015


Seriously, who hasn't made up random words and and blurted them out on teevee and they just HAPPENED to be outrageous racial epithets?

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
54. wtf? he said that on TV? that is a no-holds barred racial slur. no way to disguise it as
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:40 PM
Feb 2015

anything else, he may as well say the n-word.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
61. yes. i read too quick because i was actually shocked that anyone would say that on tv. and
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:48 PM
Feb 2015

not be fired for it, and I hope she is.

she's not that dumb. fox anchors play dumb, but when you look up their backgrounds, they typically come from very prestigious schools and were in honor societies and the like.

they're not stupid, just out for themselves.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
60. I swear, if some shithead called Obama a n*gger live on Meet the Press, there's be 20 DUers to offer
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:46 PM
Feb 2015

a defense.

This place has gone for real sideways.



AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
67. Racist is as racist does
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:51 PM
Feb 2015

And of COURSE it came from faux.

They don't even try to hide it anymore....

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
70. Has my grandpa come back to life?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:53 PM
Feb 2015

He once chided Mom for listening to "fat-lipped n****r music". And he meant Elvis!

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
84. Did she confuse Gaga with Jennifer Hudson
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:14 PM
Feb 2015

Or confuse Jennifer's (taped) background vocals with the (taped) strings that accompanied Gaga?


rocktivity

P.S. I myself didn't realize it was Lady Gaga at first -- I was thrown off by both her over-enunciated singing AND her new nose!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
95. FYI, there is a live orchestra playing from a studio at Capitol Records nearby, saving room in the
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:37 PM
Feb 2015

theater. So Gaga's strings were live if she wanted them to be, just not present in the room.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
96. Then it WAS piped in -- the orchestra behind Gaga clearly wasn't real
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:41 PM
Feb 2015

Their bowing was totally out of synch with the music!


rocktivity

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
87. her apology this morning
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:36 PM
Feb 2015

I deeply regret my insensitive comment. I didn't know the meaning and would never intentionally use hurtful language. I sincerely apologize

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
93. I don't buy for a minute that she didn't know what it meant. She used it in a pejorative manner.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:20 PM
Feb 2015

I think that she was trying to complement (in a condescending manner) Lady Gaga's voice. In effect, that she has a nice voice if you hear her w/o the jigaboo music. Use of the word in that manner has a specific and clear meaning. She is on the air and was trying to make a point so she chose that word. No excuse.

She should have responded to the fervor, "I work for Fox so I don't have to worry about such things." She will be promoted to co-anchor on Fox and Friends.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
106. Aside from being a racist and stupid comment it doesn't even make sense.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:56 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Lady Gaga was singing classic Sound of Music songs.

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
107. The FOX anchors on the national outlet are typically educated at elite schools. They just play dumb
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:57 PM
Feb 2015

This local anchor, however, was educated at fundamentalist religious schools.


Capel graduated from Heritage Academy (a parochial school affiliated with the Assemblies of God) in Kentucky in 2001. She won a sports scholarship to Evangel University, a religious school affiliated with the Assemblies of God, where she completed a Bachelor of Science degree in Broadcasting and Public Relations with honors in 2005. She plans to continue her education with a Meteorology degree in order to become a meteorologist for a major network.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristi_Capel
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