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kpete

(72,005 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:02 PM Feb 2015

White House, Elizabeth Warren team up to protect retirement savings from Wall Street

Joined by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), President Obama will move ahead on Monday with plans to impose new regulations for financial advisers; the rules are vehemently opposed by the business community.

Obama will announce his intentions during a speech at AARP's Washington offices on Monday afternoon, as The Hill first reported, where he will be joined by Warren and other senior White House officials. AARP has joined progressives and other groups, including the AFL-CIO in backing Obama's efforts for the new regulations.
White House officials say the new regulations — dubbed "fiduciary rules" — are needed to protect consumers from financial advisers who have conflicts of interests. They say too many financial advisers earn commissions from big banks after selling faulty retirement advice to unsuspecting Americans.

The Chamber of Commerce and other business groups, backed by moderate Democrats and Republicans, argue that Obama's new regulations decrease low- and middle-income Americans' access to retirement advice. They say the regulations will mean advisers have less incentive to take on low- and middle-income Americans' retirement accounts, which are less lucrative than those of wealthier Americans.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/233446-warren-now-all-in-on-fiduciary-fight
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/23/1366251/-White-House-Elizabeth-Warren-team-up-to-protect-retirement-savings-from-Wall-Street

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White House, Elizabeth Warren team up to protect retirement savings from Wall Street (Original Post) kpete Feb 2015 OP
HUGE K&R! JaneyVee Feb 2015 #1
Yes! Elizabeth shines again, no surprise there. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #28
Awesome development. Good on Obama. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #2
Would be good to see Sec. Clinton out in front of this, too. n/t Orsino Feb 2015 #3
LoL, won't she have to check with Goldman Sachs first? Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #4
This could be a bellwether for her presidency. Orsino Feb 2015 #5
absolutely! Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #6
Hillary's handlers are poll-testing this issue as we speak. Stay tuned. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #27
Hillary is not a government official like Obama/Warren Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #8
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #14
That works both ways. Every time Sanders or Warren open their mouths they give me A Simple Game Feb 2015 #21
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #22
None have declared so I see no difference between them except for their A Simple Game Feb 2015 #25
HRC is likely to declare ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #26
Why would anyone declare their positions so early? A Simple Game Feb 2015 #30
I doubt you planned to vote for her from the gate ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #32
Sorry I don't know what this gate is you mention. A Simple Game Feb 2015 #42
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #45
Hillary will stand up 4 the middle class wen she figures out how 2 make bigga bux from them than her Wall Street/corporate buddies, ie, NEVER! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #29
Sounds about right to me, let's have a DU fundraiser and hire her to give us a speech! A Simple Game Feb 2015 #31
Because ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #34
Yes, most of those contributin Arab countries that treat its women like chattel & subject them 2 disgusting abuse also wanna empower those women... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #38
On a different note ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #40
Saudi Arabia and Oman are all for supporting women's rights. A Simple Game Feb 2015 #41
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #43
Clinton does not work for the government currently. HappyMe Feb 2015 #11
She's not President and she's not in the Senate nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #19
That's why I'm not requiring her stance immediately. Orsino Feb 2015 #35
Good set-up line for the comedy team which follows. nt Hekate Feb 2015 #36
So, incredibly important! Baitball Blogger Feb 2015 #7
Great. K&R Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #9
Good. There must be a term for profiting from helping to create incompetent financial advisers. closeupready Feb 2015 #10
Clinton. HAHAHA blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #12
I wonder if ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #13
"the rules are vehemently opposed by the business community" annabanana Feb 2015 #15
Kickety, kickety, kick. Thank you Mr. President! Some are obsessing about HRC, who is not in office Hekate Feb 2015 #16
Turns into a bash Clinton thread... most of the bashers don't even know her record OKNancy Feb 2015 #17
They don't know her legislative record or her policy record and don't care. Recycled RW hatred... Hekate Feb 2015 #39
"" They say the regulations will mean advisers have less incentive.. vkkv Feb 2015 #18
Low and middle class Americans... sendero Feb 2015 #24
+1.. have people not noticed that "low and middle class" these days means SomethingFishy Feb 2015 #33
Go Team White House(Thanks Obama)and Elizabeth Warren.. mahalo kpete Cha Feb 2015 #20
"moderate" Democrats... sendero Feb 2015 #23
Cool. bigwillq Feb 2015 #37
Go "Lizzie" ....We Have Your Back! KoKo Feb 2015 #44
Good teaming up there. Think we're going to see more of this...Warren in the spotlight really libdem4life Feb 2015 #46

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
6. absolutely!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:17 PM
Feb 2015

But as the legislation would curb profit taking
from retirement accounts it's almost guaranteed
that Hillary-Goldman-Sachs WON'T support it.

I would be SHOCKED, SHOCKED if she does!
Come on Hillary support the working class!

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
8. Hillary is not a government official like Obama/Warren
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:05 PM
Feb 2015

It wouldn't be appropriate for her to be there IMO.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. +1 ...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:55 PM
Feb 2015

But aren't candidate supposed to "get out in front" of policy positions 2 years before an election and before they even announce their run?

That's a sure-fire, proven way to win an election ... give your opposition as much time as humanly possible to craft, test, re-craft and re-test their counter-position!

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
21. That works both ways. Every time Sanders or Warren open their mouths they give me
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:08 PM
Feb 2015

another reason to support them. Every time our "front runner" keeps her mouth shut she gives me another reason not to support her.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
22. Okay ...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:19 PM
Feb 2015

Ask yourself what a non-candidate (Warren - if you believe the words from her mouth) and/or a long shot candidate (Sanders -if you believe the polling) have to lose by staking out a position early, and compare that to a presumptive front running candidate.

Campaign strategy is just that, strategic.

ETA: I'm pretty sure that should HRC toss her hat into the ring, we will hear all we care to about her policy positions ... during the primary race.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
25. None have declared so I see no difference between them except for their
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:27 PM
Feb 2015

willingness to state their positions.

Do you think Hillary should be afraid to stand up for the middle class? If she won't that tells me a lot.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
26. HRC is likely to declare ...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:30 PM
Feb 2015

Warren has UNdeclared and Sanders is a long shot ... see the difference?

Do you think Hillary should be afraid to stand up for the middle class? If she won't that tells me a lot.


Again ... Why should she declare her position this early out? Other than, to please folks that are unlikely to believe her when she does?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
30. Why would anyone declare their positions so early?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:55 PM
Feb 2015

To give voters time to evaluate them and thus be able to make the best decision in the primaries and the general election. Wouldn't that be considerate of her.

As for Warren UNdeclaring? Well she never declared but has had multitudes of individuals and donors urging her including some that apparently aren't even considering Hillary. http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/progressive-donors-dont-invite-hillary I hope they don't know something we don't.

Perhaps Warren is just pulling a Hillary and not wanting to step into the fray too soon. See the similarity?

Thanks for letting everyone know that Hillary is scared to state her positions that could affect the middle class, that could make a big difference in the primaries if she runs. I may not vote for her now.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
32. I doubt you planned to vote for her from the gate ...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:08 PM
Feb 2015
To give voters time to evaluate them and thus be able to make the best decision in the primaries and the general election.


That is what primary season is for.

As for Warren UNdeclaring? Well she never declared but has had multitudes of individuals and donors urging her including some that apparently aren't even considering Hillary. http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/progressive-donors-dont-invite-hillary I hope they don't know something we don't.

Perhaps Warren is just pulling a Hillary and not wanting to step into the fray too soon. See the similarity?


{Sighhh} No. I say no similarity between, "No. I am not running for President" and not saying one way or another on a whole host of policy positions.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
42. Sorry I don't know what this gate is you mention.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:27 PM
Feb 2015

As for what primary season is for... doesn't stop the Republicans or Sanders from starting early.

As for the similarity... Warren is available to be asked, Hillary, well has anyone seen her lately so they could ask her?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. Hillary will stand up 4 the middle class wen she figures out how 2 make bigga bux from them than her Wall Street/corporate buddies, ie, NEVER!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:41 PM
Feb 2015

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
31. Sounds about right to me, let's have a DU fundraiser and hire her to give us a speech!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:59 PM
Feb 2015

We should get lots of money if all the Hillary posters put their money where... well you know the saying.


But then how are we going to counter all of the foreign money coming into the Clinton Foundation?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-foundation-defends-foreign-fundraising/
Now why would foreign governments aid an outside foundation instead of spending the money on their own country's internal welfare? Just being nice neighbors I guess?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
34. Because ...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:13 PM
Feb 2015

they want to continue supporting programs that empower women and girls, fights disease and poverty, world-wide?

Just a thought.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
38. Yes, most of those contributin Arab countries that treat its women like chattel & subject them 2 disgusting abuse also wanna empower those women...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:33 PM
Feb 2015

Makes sense to me. Or, maybe they are just trying to buy influence.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
41. Saudi Arabia and Oman are all for supporting women's rights.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:22 PM
Feb 2015

As for what goes on at right wing blogs, I don't go to them, I leave that up to the people interested in right wing things. But you have a point, if the conservatives and the liberals both don't want Hillary, just who will elect her? Maybe the same people as in 2008?

If you really want to know more about Hillary, you should take a few minutes and research the Clinton Foundation's history of the donations it accepts and it's supporters.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
35. That's why I'm not requiring her stance immediately.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:14 PM
Feb 2015

But she's about to be president, so she should weigh in whenever it's convenient for her.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
10. Good. There must be a term for profiting from helping to create incompetent financial advisers.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:30 PM
Feb 2015

Or a fictional example of the smart guru who misleads dumb followers in order to take advantage of them - financially, sexually, politically.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. I wonder if ...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 04:49 PM
Feb 2015
The Chamber of Commerce and other business groups, backed by moderate Democrats and Republicans, argue that Obama's new regulations decrease low- and middle-income Americans' access to retirement advice. They say the regulations will mean advisers have less incentive to take on low- and middle-income Americans' retirement accounts, which are less lucrative than those of wealthier Americans.


those saying that ... especially those "moderate Democrats" actually said that out loud before going on the record with it?

Hekate

(90,747 posts)
16. Kickety, kickety, kick. Thank you Mr. President! Some are obsessing about HRC, who is not in office
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:00 PM
Feb 2015

....while ignoring Obama, who IS in office, and keeping busy with things we very much would like to see come to pass. Why is that, I wonder?

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
17. Turns into a bash Clinton thread... most of the bashers don't even know her record
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:39 PM
Feb 2015

In 2007 Hillary Clinton proposed giving all workers the opportunity to easily save for the future in portable “American Retirement Accounts.” Workers would be able to keep this retirement account with them if they changed jobs and the plan would allow workers to save up to $5,000 a year on a tax-deferred basis. Workers could choose how they want to invest the savings and they would be able to tap into the savings penalty-free for major life investments like college, buying a home, and retirement. The Washington Post editorial board noted that Hillary’s plan was “the boldest of the campaign to address this troubling situation.”

http://correctrecord.org/hillary-clinton-fighting-for-americas-workers/


Hekate

(90,747 posts)
39. They don't know her legislative record or her policy record and don't care. Recycled RW hatred...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:37 PM
Feb 2015

...has gotten really old and smelly, and NOBODY'S EVEN DECLARED YET.

All the folks with Hillary Derangement Syndrome have got is the one vote they do remember and from that everything (seemingly) springs. Cut loose all the Dems who were fooled by Bush's lies that year, and who do you have left?

I would love to see a good strong bench of Democrats declaring for the Presidential run, but where the hell are they? And I don't mean Independents, Libertarians, Greens, or any other third party candidates. I mean Democrats.

The OP had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton, and yet here we are. Again.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
18. "" They say the regulations will mean advisers have less incentive..
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:40 PM
Feb 2015

.. to take on low- and middle-income Americans' retirement accounts, which are less lucrative than those of wealthier Americans. ""

Fine, let someone else who will follow the new rules get the extra business.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
24. Low and middle class Americans...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:23 PM
Feb 2015

.. need the "help" of these assholes like a fish needs a bicycle.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
33. +1.. have people not noticed that "low and middle class" these days means
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 07:12 PM
Feb 2015

living paycheck to paycheck and that there is no money for "Retirement"?

The fact that we need rules to keep Corporations from fucking robbing us blind is quite telling in and of itself.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
23. "moderate" Democrats...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:22 PM
Feb 2015

... yeah right. They are not moderates, they are sellouts and this regulation is sorely needed.

As for the rest of the usual suspects, the CoC, Republicans, etc, I never expect them to be anything short of bastards.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
46. Good teaming up there. Think we're going to see more of this...Warren in the spotlight really
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:56 PM
Feb 2015

DOING things. One way or the other she's going to have a tremendous effect on our financial/economic future and that's a good thing.

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