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Joined by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), President Obama will move ahead on Monday with plans to impose new regulations for financial advisers; the rules are vehemently opposed by the business community.
Obama will announce his intentions during a speech at AARP's Washington offices on Monday afternoon, as The Hill first reported, where he will be joined by Warren and other senior White House officials. AARP has joined progressives and other groups, including the AFL-CIO in backing Obama's efforts for the new regulations.
White House officials say the new regulations dubbed "fiduciary rules" are needed to protect consumers from financial advisers who have conflicts of interests. They say too many financial advisers earn commissions from big banks after selling faulty retirement advice to unsuspecting Americans.
The Chamber of Commerce and other business groups, backed by moderate Democrats and Republicans, argue that Obama's new regulations decrease low- and middle-income Americans' access to retirement advice. They say the regulations will mean advisers have less incentive to take on low- and middle-income Americans' retirement accounts, which are less lucrative than those of wealthier Americans.
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/233446-warren-now-all-in-on-fiduciary-fight
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/23/1366251/-White-House-Elizabeth-Warren-team-up-to-protect-retirement-savings-from-Wall-Street
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)I'm not optimistic on this particular point.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)But as the legislation would curb profit taking
from retirement accounts it's almost guaranteed
that Hillary-Goldman-Sachs WON'T support it.
I would be SHOCKED, SHOCKED if she does!
Come on Hillary support the working class!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)It wouldn't be appropriate for her to be there IMO.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But aren't candidate supposed to "get out in front" of policy positions 2 years before an election and before they even announce their run?
That's a sure-fire, proven way to win an election ... give your opposition as much time as humanly possible to craft, test, re-craft and re-test their counter-position!
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)another reason to support them. Every time our "front runner" keeps her mouth shut she gives me another reason not to support her.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Ask yourself what a non-candidate (Warren - if you believe the words from her mouth) and/or a long shot candidate (Sanders -if you believe the polling) have to lose by staking out a position early, and compare that to a presumptive front running candidate.
Campaign strategy is just that, strategic.
ETA: I'm pretty sure that should HRC toss her hat into the ring, we will hear all we care to about her policy positions ... during the primary race.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)willingness to state their positions.
Do you think Hillary should be afraid to stand up for the middle class? If she won't that tells me a lot.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Warren has UNdeclared and Sanders is a long shot ... see the difference?
Again ... Why should she declare her position this early out? Other than, to please folks that are unlikely to believe her when she does?
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)To give voters time to evaluate them and thus be able to make the best decision in the primaries and the general election. Wouldn't that be considerate of her.
As for Warren UNdeclaring? Well she never declared but has had multitudes of individuals and donors urging her including some that apparently aren't even considering Hillary. http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/progressive-donors-dont-invite-hillary I hope they don't know something we don't.
Perhaps Warren is just pulling a Hillary and not wanting to step into the fray too soon. See the similarity?
Thanks for letting everyone know that Hillary is scared to state her positions that could affect the middle class, that could make a big difference in the primaries if she runs. I may not vote for her now.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)That is what primary season is for.
Perhaps Warren is just pulling a Hillary and not wanting to step into the fray too soon. See the similarity?
{Sighhh} No. I say no similarity between, "No. I am not running for President" and not saying one way or another on a whole host of policy positions.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)As for what primary season is for... doesn't stop the Republicans or Sanders from starting early.
As for the similarity... Warren is available to be asked, Hillary, well has anyone seen her lately so they could ask her?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)We should get lots of money if all the Hillary posters put their money where... well you know the saying.
But then how are we going to counter all of the foreign money coming into the Clinton Foundation?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-foundation-defends-foreign-fundraising/
Now why would foreign governments aid an outside foundation instead of spending the money on their own country's internal welfare? Just being nice neighbors I guess?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)they want to continue supporting programs that empower women and girls, fights disease and poverty, world-wide?
Just a thought.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Makes sense to me. Or, maybe they are just trying to buy influence.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)have you noticed the anti-HRC talking points are tracking closer and closer with those of the rw blogs?
https://www.gop.com/clinton-foundation-receiving-foreign-donations/
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)As for what goes on at right wing blogs, I don't go to them, I leave that up to the people interested in right wing things. But you have a point, if the conservatives and the liberals both don't want Hillary, just who will elect her? Maybe the same people as in 2008?
If you really want to know more about Hillary, you should take a few minutes and research the Clinton Foundation's history of the donations it accepts and it's supporters.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the talking point match is a pure coincidence.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)But she's about to be president, so she should weigh in whenever it's convenient for her.
Hekate
(90,747 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,749 posts)Woop! Woop!
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Or a fictional example of the smart guru who misleads dumb followers in order to take advantage of them - financially, sexually, politically.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)those saying that ... especially those "moderate Democrats" actually said that out loud before going on the record with it?
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Of COURSE they are...
greedy fucks...
Hekate
(90,747 posts)....while ignoring Obama, who IS in office, and keeping busy with things we very much would like to see come to pass. Why is that, I wonder?
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)In 2007 Hillary Clinton proposed giving all workers the opportunity to easily save for the future in portable American Retirement Accounts. Workers would be able to keep this retirement account with them if they changed jobs and the plan would allow workers to save up to $5,000 a year on a tax-deferred basis. Workers could choose how they want to invest the savings and they would be able to tap into the savings penalty-free for major life investments like college, buying a home, and retirement. The Washington Post editorial board noted that Hillarys plan was the boldest of the campaign to address this troubling situation.
http://correctrecord.org/hillary-clinton-fighting-for-americas-workers/
Hekate
(90,747 posts)...has gotten really old and smelly, and NOBODY'S EVEN DECLARED YET.
All the folks with Hillary Derangement Syndrome have got is the one vote they do remember and from that everything (seemingly) springs. Cut loose all the Dems who were fooled by Bush's lies that year, and who do you have left?
I would love to see a good strong bench of Democrats declaring for the Presidential run, but where the hell are they? And I don't mean Independents, Libertarians, Greens, or any other third party candidates. I mean Democrats.
The OP had nothing to do with Hillary Clinton, and yet here we are. Again.
vkkv
(3,384 posts).. to take on low- and middle-income Americans' retirement accounts, which are less lucrative than those of wealthier Americans. ""
Fine, let someone else who will follow the new rules get the extra business.
sendero
(28,552 posts).. need the "help" of these assholes like a fish needs a bicycle.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)living paycheck to paycheck and that there is no money for "Retirement"?
The fact that we need rules to keep Corporations from fucking robbing us blind is quite telling in and of itself.
Cha
(297,406 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... yeah right. They are not moderates, they are sellouts and this regulation is sorely needed.
As for the rest of the usual suspects, the CoC, Republicans, etc, I never expect them to be anything short of bastards.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)K and R
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Keep it Going!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)DOING things. One way or the other she's going to have a tremendous effect on our financial/economic future and that's a good thing.