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brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:06 PM Feb 2015

NE Senator Wants to Repeal Motorcycle Helmet Law

[link:http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Motorcycle-Helmet-Law-Up-For-Debate-291330711.html|1011 News:

If you ride a motorcycle, Nebraska state law requires you to strap on a helmet. But some want to change that, giving you the freedom to choose to wear one or not.

Ever since 1989, Nebraska has had the mandatory motorcycle helmet law.

Senator Dave Bloomfield is the bill's sponsor, he says this is about liberty and the riders should have the freedom to choose.

"That man or woman who is riding that bike should be able to decide whether or not they want to unveil themselves to that protection," said Bloomfield.


I wonder if the paramedics can decide whether or not they take an unhelmeted idiot to the hospital...

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NE Senator Wants to Repeal Motorcycle Helmet Law (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2015 OP
I would never ride without my helmet FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #1
Why would insurance cover you for riding without a helmet? brooklynite Feb 2015 #2
It's health insurance that you need, and I think it's $10K. iscooterliberally Feb 2015 #5
The paramedics should take the idiot to the hospital so their organs can be harvested. iscooterliberally Feb 2015 #3
If one wants to ride without a helmet TexasProgresive Feb 2015 #4
ABATE of Nebraska Go Vols Feb 2015 #6
What does "unveil themselves to that protection" mean? louis-t Feb 2015 #7
I think he was going for "avail themselves of." Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #16
Palinism is now a required course for the GOP. louis-t Feb 2015 #21
Wonder if MR. Bloomfield gets lots of donations from bobclark86 Feb 2015 #8
Most states do not require helmets Go Vols Feb 2015 #9
Wow. I thought Florida was in the minority. FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #20
Ride Free, or Die? salin Feb 2015 #10
Just saw a woman at the grocery wipe the handle upaloopa Feb 2015 #13
People still pay with cash? Bandit Feb 2015 #15
Well, since there's a shortage of organ donors maybe this is a good idea. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2015 #11
In my stae (PA) the law was repealed in 2003....WTF? madamvlb Feb 2015 #12
Does this Republican nitwit also give the taxpayers the same "liberty and freedom" procon Feb 2015 #14
But I bet he'd oppose an assisted suicide law. onenote Feb 2015 #17
Is he trying to solve the shortage of organ donors? Hekate Feb 2015 #18
I am always amazed when I see people riding motorcycles without a helmet here in Connecticut: Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #19

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
1. I would never ride without my helmet
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:11 PM
Feb 2015

Florida allows you to ride without a helmet if you are over 21 and have enough insurance.

Basically, that's not a bad compromise. You need to be old enough to make that decision and you have to have enough insurance coverage that the state isn't paying for your medical care.

I wouldn't do it, but I understand why people do in Florida. Sitting at a light in 95 degree sunny weather turns a helmet into an oven.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
2. Why would insurance cover you for riding without a helmet?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:18 PM
Feb 2015

You'd think they'd be happy to claim the injury was self-inflicted...

iscooterliberally

(2,861 posts)
5. It's health insurance that you need, and I think it's $10K.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:26 PM
Feb 2015

This is to cover your medical expenses. I own a Harley in Florida. You don't even need vehicle insurance to get motorcycle tags unlike with a car, so you are supposed to have health insurance to ride like a dumb ass. I have never heard of the helmet/health insurance laws being enforced though. It's a free for all here on this subject.

iscooterliberally

(2,861 posts)
3. The paramedics should take the idiot to the hospital so their organs can be harvested.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:22 PM
Feb 2015

The only way you should ride a motorcycle without a helmet is if you have no friends or family, and no one even likes you at all. You should also have to be an organ donor and have a considerable amount of insurance to cover the costs of scraping your dumb dead ass off of the pavement. This is one of those things that you would think there should not be a law that needs to be enforced, but there is a cost when someone sustains a head injury, or if they are killed. We all know about the freedom/responsibility deal, but it seems like many lawmakers are forgetting about the responsibility part.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
4. If one wants to ride without a helmet
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:25 PM
Feb 2015

one should, by law, have to carry a special insurance policy that covers long term disability especially from brain injury. Besides that the rider must sign a legal disclaimer to any assistance medical or otherwise from the state or nation. If you are going to be so stupid as to ride without a helmet you should be liable for the consequences.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
8. Wonder if MR. Bloomfield gets lots of donations from
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:29 PM
Feb 2015

auto insurance companies?

When Pennsylvania passed their no-helmet law, it was the auto insurance providers who lobbied for it -- cheaper to pay for a dead motorcyclist than skin grafts, trauma damage and medevac flights.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
9. Most states do not require helmets
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:38 PM
Feb 2015

Currently, 19 states and the District of Columbia have laws requiring all motorcyclists to wear a helmet, known as universal helmet laws.

Laws requiring only some motorcyclists to wear a helmet are in place in 28 states. There is no motorcycle helmet use law in three states (Illinois, Iowa and New Hampshire).

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
20. Wow. I thought Florida was in the minority.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
Feb 2015

Also of note that the biggest motorcycle events in the country also coincide with no helmet laws.

South Dakota, Arizona, Florida, New Hampshire, Kentucky are bike week hot spots.

salin

(48,955 posts)
10. Ride Free, or Die?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:41 PM
Feb 2015

I get the sense that we are being moved by Alec towards rejecting public safety and consumer protections - in the name of "Freedom". Makes me think of the Senator who said that he would be in favor of repealing safety regulations regarding hand-washing for employees who handle food.... as long as it was posted... let the consumers decide! Freedom!

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
13. Just saw a woman at the grocery wipe the handle
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:52 PM
Feb 2015

of her cart with a sanitary wipe but I am sure if she pays cash she will take the change which is full of germs.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
11. Well, since there's a shortage of organ donors maybe this is a good idea.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:43 PM
Feb 2015

So, I'd suggest these requirements if you intend to ride your motorcycle (a vehicle some ER workers call a "donorcycle&quot without a helmet: 1. You have to purchase a health insurance policy sufficient to cover all costs foreseeably arising from your head injuries so the hospital doesn't have to eat those costs or pass them on to other patients or insurers; 2. you agree in writing that you assume all risks associated with riding a motorcycle without a helmet; and 3. you agree to donate any and all still-usable body parts they can harvest from your stupid dead self.

madamvlb

(495 posts)
12. In my stae (PA) the law was repealed in 2003....WTF?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:43 PM
Feb 2015

I ride and so does my hubby....never ever without a helmet.

procon

(15,805 posts)
14. Does this Republican nitwit also give the taxpayers the same "liberty and freedom"
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 03:59 PM
Feb 2015

not to pay for a lifetime of institutional medical care due to the needless and preventable head injuries that are the result of not wearing a helmet?

Hekate

(90,751 posts)
18. Is he trying to solve the shortage of organ donors?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:08 PM
Feb 2015

In that case, Nebraskans should have the free-dumb to leave off their seat belts and infant restraints, as well.

Just make sure the organs get distributed across the rest of the nation.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
19. I am always amazed when I see people riding motorcycles without a helmet here in Connecticut:
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:12 PM
Feb 2015


November 5, 2010


2010-R-0465

MOTORCYCLE HELMET LAWS


By: Paul Frisman, Principal Analyst

You asked (1) for a brief history of Connecticut's motorcycle helmet laws and (2) which of our neighboring states have helmet laws.

SUMMARY

Connecticut required anyone riding on a motorcycle, including any passenger, to wear an approved protective helmet until the law was repealed in 1976. There were no helmet requirements from 1976 until 1989. In 1989, the General Assembly enacted what is commonly known as a “partial” helmet law, which requires anyone under age 18 to wear an approved protective helmet when on a motorcycle. The law also requires all applicants for a driver's license with motorcycle endorsement to wear a helmet while operating a motorcycle on a training permit.

Of the five other New England states and New York, three (Massachusetts, New York, and Vermont) require all riders to wear helmets. Maine and Rhode Island require helmets to be worn by certain riders and passengers. New Hampshire does not have a helmet law.

CONNECTICUT HELMET LAW HISTORY

Connecticut's Prior Helmet Law and Its Repeal

Until 1976, Connecticut law required anyone riding on a motorcycle to wear protective headgear meeting standards adopted by the motor vehicles commissioner in accordance with nationally accepted standards. At the time, federal law allowed the U.S. Department of Transportation Secretary to impose financial sanctions against any state that did not comply with a national helmet use standard. The sanctions involved withholding 10% of a state's annual federal allotment of funding for highway construction. By 1976, only three states did not have a helmet law. Each was in the process of being sanctioned when Congress decided to remove the secretary's sanctioning authority. Several states, including Connecticut, repealed their helmet laws once the threat of sanction no longer existed.

The removal of the federal sanction was one of two main reasons why Connecticut repealed the helmet law. The other was the argument that the state should not infringe upon individual rights by forcing a motorcycle rider to wear a helmet.

Partial Helmet Laws

Connecticut adopted partial helmet laws in 1989 (PA 89-242, codified as CGS §§ 14-289g and -40a (b)).

CGS § 14-289g requires all motorcycle operators and passengers under age 18 to wear a helmet. Failure to do so is an infraction punishable by a fine of at least $90.

CGS § 14-40a (b) requires each applicant for a motor vehicle license with a motorcycle endorsement, regardless of age, to wear a helmet while operating a motorcycle with a training permit. Failure to do so is an infraction, the fine for which is between $35 and $50 for a first offense and up to $100 or 30 days in jail for subsequent offenses.

Helmet Law Revisited

The helmet use issue has been revisited unsuccessfully many times, most recently in 2005. Bills to reinstate some form of mandatory helmet use were introduced in 1979, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1989, 1991, 1993, 1995, 2003, and 2005.

HELMET LAWS IN OTHER NEW ENGLAND STATES AND NEW YORK

We obtained the following information about the other New England states and New York from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety: http://www.iihs.org/laws/HelmetUseCurrent.aspx.

Massachusetts (Mass. Gen. Law., CH. 90, § 7, New York (N.Y. Veh. & Traffic § 381.6), and Vermont (VT Stat. Ann. Title 23 § 1256) require all motorcycle riders to wear a helmet.

Maine requires a helmet for (1) operators and passengers younger than age 18, (2) operators with a learner's permit or within one year of successfully completing a driving test, and (3) passengers of operators required to wear one (ME. R.S.A. Title 29-A § 2083). Rhode Island requires that helmets be worn by (1) operators age 20 or younger, (2) all operators within one year of getting their first license, and (3) all passengers (R.I. Gen. Laws §§ 31-10.1-4 and 21-10.1-6.

New Hampshire does not have a helmet law.

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0465.htm
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