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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 06:06 PM Feb 2015

No Exit: “Nighthawks” by Edward Hopper.

“Unconsciously, probably, I was painting the loneliness of a large city.”
--Edward Hopper
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1942. Art Institute of Chicago

Nighthawks was painted in 1942 at the point of America’s entrance into World War II. It was a time of heightened anxiety over a coming world conflict and the beginning of an uncertain recovery from a Great Depression that was still an overhang in people’s minds.

It is possible that Hopper had read W.H.Auden’s eerie poem, “September 1, 1939“ published two years before Hopper painted this work. Auden seems to articulate the mood and feel of Nighthawks, as in this passage

I sit in one of the dives
On Fifty-second Street
Uncertain and afraid
As the clever hopes expire
Of a low dishonest decade...
The unmentionable odour of death
Offends the September night...

Nighthawks reshaped what painting looked like in America, and created a visual language for a “way of seeing” middle-class existence and its underlying darkest fears and doubts. No wonder then that it has been incessantly reproduced (and often parodied). It becomes difficult to view this painting with fresh eyes.

Is the oft made comparison of Nighthawks to film noir inevitable? The male imagery of noir-ish settings and lighting in the work is certainly easy to comprehend. There is the dark wood of the bar and bar stools. Two of the men are in the suits and wearing the iconic fedoras of that era, recalling (or presaging?) the often haunted male private investigator, and a “Lady in red” image for the woman. Her long red hair, red lipstick and low cut red dress does resonate with our understanding of the film style. She rather idly fingers the matches that will light her companion’s cigarette. A fat stogie appears in the “Phillies” cigar advertisement above the diner. The counterman appears busier but may also be apprehensive about the man sitting alone holding a glass. The viewer gets a bit of this unease...is he there to rob the diner? Does he have a gun?



The people in this painting appear to be sealed into this glass encased existence...no door is shown for them to leave...only the swinging door leading to the kitchen....it suggests a kind of endless loop and no way for anyone to leave the diner.

However, a converse meaning emerges: the light of the diner, spilling out on the street below, holds back the darkness and provides a sanctuary against that ultimate night in a world without God or spiritual solace. A bulwark against despair. The contrast of dead space around the diner is not negative space. It is integral to the painting’s essence.

It is said that Hopper himself was influenced in this painting by reading Hemingway’s “The Killers,” a story about men who plot the killing of another man they meet in a bar. Despite their murderous intent, the deed is never carried out.

That short story has the sense of something about to happen, and it never does. In a way, Hopper's paintings seem like that. So that enables writers and filmmakers–fiction writers and poets, and other artists, perhaps –to project their own imagination onto the painting.

Interpretations about Nighthawks’s meaning have evolved. The first great essay about Hopper, by Alfred Barr, dates from the 1930s, and did not discuss loneliness as a defining theme in the work. Rather, Barr discusses Hopper as a painter of light and architecture. But today, Hopper is almost always identified with the tag of loneliness.

What might explain this shift in interpretation is the appearance of David Riesman's groundbreaking book The Lonely Crowd in 1950. The book argues that American society had become “other directed" in its change from being production oriented to being consumer oriented, resulting in increasing wealth but also in a deep and abiding loneliness in our national psyche and specifically located in an alienated urban dynamo. Nighthawks becomes a kind of visible identification of Reisman’s thesis and what comes to mind when we use the term “Hopperesque” to describe a modern work of art. Hopper did not want this fine a point put on his work, saying "The loneliness thing is overdone." Art historian Carol Troyan revises this view further in her catalogue essay on the artist, saying that that Hopper is perhaps best seen as the painter of solitude and serenity.

Gale Levin, who wrote five books on Hopper, points to Night Cafe by Vincent Van Gogh as a possible influence for Nighthawks. I very much see the connection even if others do not. There is despair in Van Gogh’s work although red and green dominate there, while deep red, yellow and brown dominate in the more desolate Nighthawks. And in contrast to Hopper’s signature raking light effects, Van Gogh introduces disquiet in Night Cafe with his jittery overhead (gas?) lights. There are disconsolate drinkers here who are practically insensate, flopped over on their tables. The mood is not good. Van Gogh, who regularly drank there, knew it well.

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The Night Cafe. 1888. Yale University Art Gallery, New Haven

Art critic Peter Schjeldahl has an interesting take on Hopper‘s less than great artistic technique

“...Hopper painted with reproducibility on his mind, as a new function and fate of images in his time. This is part of what makes him modern—and persistently misunderstood, by detractors, as merely an illustrator. If “Nighthawks” is an illustration, a kick in the head is a lullaby.”

John Updike observed, "Hopper is always on the verge of telling a story." If so what's the story? Hopper gives you the last word on Nighthawks meaning. He presents the scene. It is up to you to imagine the conclusion.

NOTE: The location of the diner in Nighthawks has been identified on Greenwich Avenue in lower Manhattan, a street closed off in the 1960s to make way for the construction of the Twin Towers.

How Hopperesque.


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No Exit: “Nighthawks” by Edward Hopper. (Original Post) CTyankee Feb 2015 OP
I have a "Nighthawks" print hanging in my home. I love his urban nightime paintings. virgogal Feb 2015 #1
What a great pair of paintings, my dear CTyankee! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2015 #2
Isn't this a classic? It's quite a statement of its time... CTyankee Feb 2015 #4
Very much is said with very little in both paintings. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #3
Actually, you don't need Gale Levin to point out the similarities with the Van Gogh... CTyankee Feb 2015 #5
Google nighthawks hard candy only if you want to forever ruin innocent associations w that painting. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #6
tell me about it... CTyankee Feb 2015 #8
I love reading interpretations of "Nighthawks". Aristus Feb 2015 #7
sometimes a cash register is just a cash register...but come to think about it, CTyankee Feb 2015 #9
One of my favorites, I have to visit it whenever Lifelong Protester Feb 2015 #10
Yep, I think that is how I got the Carol Troyen quote...she's the curator at the MFA. CTyankee Feb 2015 #11
Whenever I see any work in person Lifelong Protester Feb 2015 #14
I travel to Europe specifically to see great works of art "in situ." Like you, I am CTyankee Feb 2015 #20
My spouse (the art person here) is always setting off Lifelong Protester Feb 2015 #26
It's kind of addictive...you want to know more but those mean guards won't let you... CTyankee Feb 2015 #27
I added another detail to the post... CTyankee Feb 2015 #12
One correction edhopper Feb 2015 #13
Yup. I don't know where I got "Greenwich St." from... CTyankee Feb 2015 #21
I lived right near there when I lived in NYC. smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #34
I lived on the corner of Hudson and Barrow streets... CTyankee Mar 2015 #35
What a great neighborhood it used to be! smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #47
Yes, it sure is. Back when I livedin NY in the 60s it was the WEst Village...the LES CTyankee Mar 2015 #49
Great reference to the Auden poem, and a later passage makes it even petronius Feb 2015 #15
OK, you've got me on the bouquet reference... CTyankee Feb 2015 #16
In the second window from the upper left - I'm not sure, but that's what I'm guessing petronius Feb 2015 #22
I checked it out and could see a bouquet lying on its side...but it took a bright light CTyankee Feb 2015 #23
I tried to convince myself it was a face peering out the window, but petronius Feb 2015 #28
My take is that it is very late at night. It would make sense that the coffee is CTyankee Mar 2015 #32
I like this line: yellowwoodII Mar 2015 #36
not sure it was evil, but certainly short-sighted and a mistake... CTyankee Mar 2015 #38
For me, this painting illustrates solemn resilience. blogslut Feb 2015 #17
I love the two big coffee urns freighted with caffeine...AND the silver shine CTyankee Feb 2015 #19
*paging Heidi* and all the Nighthawks of yore*. Thank you CTyankee !! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #18
!!!!! Heidi Mar 2015 #31
those were good times. very good times. yes, indeed Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #42
Nice to see you, Heidi! bettyellen Mar 2015 #52
Hi, you!!!! Heidi Mar 2015 #56
Always super to see you! Hope you guys make it to ths side of the pond sooner... bettyellen Mar 2015 #58
"That 70s Show" and "The Simpson's" did great takeoffs of "Nighthawks". It's an icon. nt Bigmack Feb 2015 #24
sorta like Marcel Duchamps putting a mustache on the Mona Lisa...only without the CTyankee Feb 2015 #25
A homage is a homage flying rabbit Mar 2015 #29
Has anyone seen the ins. co. ad that's clearly designed like Nighthawks? nolabear Mar 2015 #30
I just googled it... CTyankee Mar 2015 #33
And then you have our own version sakabatou Mar 2015 #37
Edward Hopper's painting Nighthawks was once yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #39
was it part of a show on Hopper's works? CTyankee Mar 2015 #40
don't quite remember yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #41
this is the same street i think Mosby Mar 2015 #43
OK, did a quick research on this. It is Early Sunday Morning and he originally CTyankee Mar 2015 #44
interesting, thx. nt Mosby Mar 2015 #45
Great stuff from the library on Hopper. LOTS written on him. CTyankee Mar 2015 #50
I see alot of Chirico in Hopper frankfacts Mar 2015 #46
Room in Brooklyn Tsiyu Mar 2015 #48
It's the time frame of the painting. He DID paint it when people in this country were on CTyankee Mar 2015 #51
That's the awesome thing about a painting or a poem Tsiyu Mar 2015 #53
thank you. it's my pleasure... CTyankee Mar 2015 #54
K and R cwydro Mar 2015 #55
A video I made of Nighthawks by Joyce Carol Oates Generic Other Mar 2015 #57
So is this a poem by Oates? That's interesting... CTyankee Mar 2015 #59
I love the feeling of a mash-up collaboration Generic Other Mar 2015 #60
Yes, I LOVE your take...a mash-up...Just an observation if you will indulge me further... CTyankee Mar 2015 #61
I see people collecting photos on Pinterest Generic Other Mar 2015 #62
Could you explain further what you mean by Second Life avatar? I'm afraid I don't have CTyankee Mar 2015 #63
Second Life is where I film machinima Generic Other Mar 2015 #64
So it is film machinima as I understand it... CTyankee Mar 2015 #65
Good essay edhopper Jun 2015 #66
thanks...it's really a haunting scene... CTyankee Jun 2015 #67
In real life edhopper Jun 2015 #68
I used to live in Greenwich Village many years ago...my son lives on the Lower East Side CTyankee Jun 2015 #69
So you lived in edhopper Jun 2015 #70
well, I consider Hopperland a bit contorted, don't you? CTyankee Jun 2015 #71
Yes edhopper Jun 2015 #72
 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
1. I have a "Nighthawks" print hanging in my home. I love his urban nightime paintings.
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 06:11 PM
Feb 2015

The Truro paintings--not so much.

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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,678 posts)
2. What a great pair of paintings, my dear CTyankee!
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 06:11 PM
Feb 2015

Your descriptions are riveting and seem very logical and meaningful to me.

Thank you...

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
7. I love reading interpretations of "Nighthawks".
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 06:33 PM
Feb 2015

It's far from my favorite Hopper painting. "Office In A Small City" and "Boy And Moon" being two of his works that affect me more than this one.

But it is a fascinating painting.

I was glad to see the critic at least hint at a positive interpretation, that the diner and its brightly-lit space are a welcoming beacon of safety, rather than the standard explanation that the diner is sterile, spiritless, and devoid of warmth. The optimistic view was my interpretation way back when I was a kid, long before I read critical reviews of the work.

One critic also suggested that the light falling on the cash register in the window across the street was a hint the someone in the diner was planning a robbery for later that night. Not sure what to make of that, but I like reading the many different ideas.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
9. sometimes a cash register is just a cash register...but come to think about it,
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 06:47 PM
Feb 2015

it seems a bit strange to have a cash register in an open space, seen from the street. Kinda makes you wonder. A rock thru the window, grab and go...if there is anything in it, but still...

what did you make of the film noir thing? Hopper's stuff came earlier than film noir (which originated in German Expressionism) so if anything, film noir kinda copied Nighthawks...am I right here...

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
10. One of my favorites, I have to visit it whenever
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 07:07 PM
Feb 2015

I am in Chicago. It is my screensaver.

There was a great Hopper show a couple of years ago in Boston.


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
11. Yep, I think that is how I got the Carol Troyen quote...she's the curator at the MFA.
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 07:19 PM
Feb 2015

Schjeldahl posits earlier in that article I quote that he didn't see that much more in Nighthawks in person than he saw in reproductions. Was that your reaction?

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
14. Whenever I see any work in person
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 02:47 AM
Feb 2015

it becomes "real" to me. I read Custer's last words in a note, but when I actually saw the note at West Point, it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up! I guess I feel the same about Nighthawks in person. It's real! and Hopper stood at the other end of a brush and painted it.

So I see a lot in the painting because I like to see the piece in person, see brushstrokes and such.

Posters, postcards, notecards-nice, but not the same. I feel the artist in the real painting.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. I travel to Europe specifically to see great works of art "in situ." Like you, I am
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:54 AM
Feb 2015

intrigued with seeing them in person. I carry a little pocket magnifier to get closer to brushstrokes, altho in some museums I have been gently tapped on the shoulder by museum guards and told to put it away and back off from the picture (I've set off alarms briefly by leaning in too closely ).

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
27. It's kind of addictive...you want to know more but those mean guards won't let you...
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:52 PM
Feb 2015

always a challenge...

edhopper

(33,604 posts)
13. One correction
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 09:23 PM
Feb 2015

It wasn't Greenwich St. downtown. It was Greenwich Ave. in the West Village, near where he lived. And while there was a diner there he used as reference, the glass triangle shape it taken from the iconic Flat Iron Bldg.
At the Whitney's Hopper show a few years ago, they showed the various subjects he used for this painting.

They did this during the show.

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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. I lived right near there when I lived in NYC.
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 08:10 AM
Mar 2015

I lived on Bank St. between Waverly and West 4th. This painting always reminds me of that neighborhood. I would walk by that spot to work every day. I loved that neighborhood.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
35. I lived on the corner of Hudson and Barrow streets...
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 09:52 AM
Mar 2015

also briefly on Washington PLace and on Christopher Street. But that is soooo long ago! However, my three kids were all born in NYC. Only my son is there now, but he lives on the Lower East Side...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
47. What a great neighborhood it used to be!
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:30 PM
Mar 2015

There was so much to see just taking a stroll around the neighborhood. I hear that the LES in Manhattan is now getting to be very trendy.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
49. Yes, it sure is. Back when I livedin NY in the 60s it was the WEst Village...the LES
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:58 PM
Mar 2015

was definitely not trendy. My son lives at a Co-op section. These were cooperatives built a while back by Utopian types who desired a shared ownership of these apartments. They are now in high demand...

petronius

(26,603 posts)
15. Great reference to the Auden poem, and a later passage makes it even
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 03:03 AM
Feb 2015

more of a tight comparison:

"Faces along the bar
Cling to their average day:
The lights must never go out,
The music must always play,
All the conventions conspire
To make this fort assume
The furniture of home;
Lest we should see where we are,
Lost in a haunted wood,
Children afraid of the night
Who have never been happy or good."


It's definitely interesting to think about the importance of that street portion of the canvas: there's a temptation to think of it as 'negative space' and a frame, providing balance in a rule-of-thirds kind of way, but it's much more than that. Now that you mention it, the absence of humanity in that huge portion of the painting--a bouquet (?) and the cash register in windows, but otherwise nothing, no person, no vehicle, no benches, litter, newspaper racks, trash cans, nothing--is sort of jarring...

As always, thank you for the thoughtful and thought-provoking thread!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. OK, you've got me on the bouquet reference...
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:10 AM
Feb 2015

I'm going to have to pull out my magnifier to look for it in Nighthawks. It's obvious in The Night Cafe, but I cannot discern it in Nighthawks...

petronius

(26,603 posts)
22. In the second window from the upper left - I'm not sure, but that's what I'm guessing
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 12:11 PM
Feb 2015

that blob is a flower pot or bouquet on the window sill...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
23. I checked it out and could see a bouquet lying on its side...but it took a bright light
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 01:51 PM
Feb 2015

and the magnifier for me to discern it (my eyesight is getting worse and worse!). A flower pot would make more sense, of course...

It's great how you take the effort to do a fine-grained look at the art I post!

petronius

(26,603 posts)
28. I tried to convince myself it was a face peering out the window, but
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:31 PM
Feb 2015

my brain wouldn't twist that far.

I saw you comment on the urns in a different subthread, and I'd never really paid attention to them. It's interesting how large and prominent they are, and how this cafe doesn't obviously serve anything else - I guess coffee made the world go around even then. (I also notice that one of the urns is empty and the other nearly so; the solitary dangerous man might erupt when the coffee runs out, or at least that's how it would play out if Clint Eastwood directed a movie version of Nighthawks... )

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
36. I like this line:
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:09 AM
Mar 2015

Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.

I think that it references the fact that Germans were so punished by England after the Armistice that Hitler and the Nazis gained power. Reminds me that Isis may well have arisen from the destruction of Iraq.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
38. not sure it was evil, but certainly short-sighted and a mistake...
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 11:22 AM
Mar 2015

and I think you are spot on with your Isis-Iraq War comparison...

blogslut

(38,007 posts)
17. For me, this painting illustrates solemn resilience.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:32 AM
Feb 2015

It conveys a quietness that is respectful of the sleeping world but the brightness of the light and color states, quite boldly, "We are not sleeping."

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. I love the two big coffee urns freighted with caffeine...AND the silver shine
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:46 AM
Feb 2015

they add to the composition.

There are so many ways to look at this painting and so many interpretations in competition!

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
18. *paging Heidi* and all the Nighthawks of yore*. Thank you CTyankee !!
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:32 AM
Feb 2015

and yes, I see the comparison with Van Gogh.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
58. Always super to see you! Hope you guys make it to ths side of the pond sooner...
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 12:49 PM
Mar 2015

rather than later. I am thinking about Europe this Spring. Need a break soon!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
25. sorta like Marcel Duchamps putting a mustache on the Mona Lisa...only without the
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 02:02 PM
Feb 2015

artistic intent...

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
30. Has anyone seen the ins. co. ad that's clearly designed like Nighthawks?
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:26 AM
Mar 2015

On the one hand I like seeing it get the nod but on the other...ick.

yuiyoshida

(41,835 posts)
39. Edward Hopper's painting Nighthawks was once
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 11:26 AM
Mar 2015

on display at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, and I got to see it.. I was so thrilled.
I think I bought a poster, its probably still wrapped up in a poster tube, inside my closet.

Mosby

(16,334 posts)
43. this is the same street i think
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:33 PM
Mar 2015


Always wondered if there is a connection between the two hopper paintings.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
44. OK, did a quick research on this. It is Early Sunday Morning and he originally
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:03 PM
Mar 2015

titled it "Seventh Avenue Shops." So it might be a good bet that it's another section of the West Village...

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
48. Room in Brooklyn
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 04:45 PM
Mar 2015

My favorite Hopper.





Great thread.

Edit to add: I never saw Nighthawks as "dark." Musicians hang out at places like that after the show. or at Waffle House if playing in the boonies in the South. It gave me more of a feeling of comfort that, even late at night, you can go somewhere like that and get some eggs and toast.

The waiter/coffee slinger just looks like he's telling the lone dude he'll be right there, and the woman seems to be contemplating whether to light a fire with this dude she's seeing or not.

Funny how everyone has their own interpretation. But then, I have no clue as to the artist's intent or mindset at the time, as others would.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
51. It's the time frame of the painting. He DID paint it when people in this country were on
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:28 PM
Mar 2015

high tension over another war. So it's quite a natural assumption that this painting had everything to do with that anxiety. But he might have just wanted to show a place late at night where someone could come in and have a cup of coffee, as you say. Like a street scene picture of people doing what they do...he was, after all, an "American Realist" painter...

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
53. That's the awesome thing about a painting or a poem
Sun Mar 1, 2015, 09:56 PM
Mar 2015

or song. We all have our own experiences that color our perceptions.

So he probably was riffing off the times, but I never knew the context of the painting so always saw it as oddly comforting. It's interesting to know more about Hopper's work.

I love your art threads! So much fun.


Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
60. I love the feeling of a mash-up collaboration
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:38 PM
Mar 2015

Hopper, Oates, me and someone in Second Life who created the set.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
61. Yes, I LOVE your take...a mash-up...Just an observation if you will indulge me further...
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:24 PM
Mar 2015

I have been researching Jackson Pollock for a future art essay here on DU and I was looking at "Full Fathom Five" and thinking "the bits of color in that painting reminds me of what compressed stacks of recycled paper coming out of recycling plants looks like. My eye and the 21st century eye, his painting and vision. Art is reified in succeeding generations.

Thank you for bringing this up. I have been thinking about this today. What a fascinating topic!

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
62. I see people collecting photos on Pinterest
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:41 PM
Mar 2015

based on just the kind of leap of thinking you described. They too are recycling.

I love the notion of the paper recreating Pollack's painting. This is why I always enjoy your art threads. I feel like I get a chance to learn so much from yours and others' insights.

As for my little mash-up, you can imagine how surprised I was when my little Second Life avatar walked into Hopper's Diner. I recognized it right away! And I had to film. This is a new interactive aspect of art only possible due to the sudden availability of images and talented individuals sharing new ideas.

I wish I was better at expressing how much I love this collaboration.

DU is like this at times.


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
63. Could you explain further what you mean by Second Life avatar? I'm afraid I don't have
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:55 PM
Mar 2015

a clue (I do have a hint, tho). How did you come about Oates's poem (essay?) about Nighthawks? Tell me more about your creative process (if you don't mind my asking). I'm intrigued.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
64. Second Life is where I film machinima
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 07:41 PM
Mar 2015

such as the one I posted. I film my character and others in action.
I had to create a character (or avatar) to move around and interact in the world. People there create the backgrounds and all the content. I am just a traveller. Some creations are as unsophisticated as lollipops and rainbows. Others are so elaborate you would believe you are in the actual places. Vassar College once had a scale copy of the Sistine Chapel in SL. You could actually walk around the place as if you were in the real thing. When people build stuff like that, it is truly artful.

Another wonderful build involved a Van Gogh exhibit that was interactive. One could sit in the paintings. It was a virtual Van Gogh Museum that recreated scenes in Arles and from the paintings. Something impossible to recreate in real life.

It is an entirely novel art form. I have really participated in some amazing art events in SL. Last year, I participated in a collaborative work which was part of a larger exhibition being held in the main exhibition hall of Moscow’s Manege Museum. Russian Constructivist Art 1914-1924. When I say I participate, I mean I was provided a costume which allowed me to be part of the artwork.

You would probably like SL. It is a very intense art environment. Sadly, the art is not permanent. So I try and film it if I can.

The poem by Oates was in a textbook I use. I was able to get permission from the publisher to use it (educational use). Her piece is actually titled "Edward Hopper, Nighthawks, 1942." The diner was in a build where the owner of the place was selling xmas trees! And yes real money exchanged for virtual trees. Clearly, tree seller also loved Hopper as she copied the diner and made it possible to sit at the counter just like the painting. All I did was provide some bodies in costume. And that Sexy voice. Ha!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
65. So it is film machinima as I understand it...
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:19 PM
Mar 2015

OK, I will research that.

You have been helpful but complicated, which i fine...life is like that...love it...

edhopper

(33,604 posts)
66. Good essay
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jun 2015

There are indeed many layers to Hopper's paimntings.

I want to add that the location of the diner has been debated for years, with no consensus.
The reason is a composite he used several locations. One was the intersection of Greenwich and 7th Ave South (not near the WTC) which has sharp angled streets unlike NY's normal grid.
But a revelation of the recent Whitney Museum's Hopper show was that he also used the famous Flat Iron Building as reference.
They had this display in that building when the exhibit was going on.

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edhopper

(33,604 posts)
68. In real life
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:50 AM
Jun 2015

it was very cool to see.

If you Google map 7th Ave south and Greenwich, you will see what i mean about that intersection.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
71. well, I consider Hopperland a bit contorted, don't you?
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:42 PM
Jun 2015

I really see the comparison of this painting and film noir. I think it is one of the reasons that people really dig it.

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