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Obamacare is not going anywhere (Original Post) malaise Mar 2015 OP
i'll second that. spanone Mar 2015 #1
How are you brother? malaise Mar 2015 #2
hangin' in there! spanone Mar 2015 #4
But people at DU don't like banks... brooklynite Mar 2015 #3
I don't see it, either. Even the Corporate-Cons on SCOTUS can see any change to the subsidies BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #5
They are going to follow the law as it was written in the ACA glasshouses Mar 2015 #8
That's what the end-result looks like, glasshouses. :-) eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #10
I wouldn't bet my life on it.... sendero Mar 2015 #6
I think you're right but the subsides could end glasshouses Mar 2015 #7
Obamacare is toast safeinOhio Mar 2015 #9
Ha! Good one, safeinOhio! eom BlueCaliDem Mar 2015 #11
DUzy malaise Mar 2015 #12
I'm glad you're so certain. I'm not. Glitterati Mar 2015 #13
interesting, NM_Birder Mar 2015 #14

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
5. I don't see it, either. Even the Corporate-Cons on SCOTUS can see any change to the subsidies
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 12:28 PM
Mar 2015

will damage the chances for election victories for Republicans in those States where they refused to set up an exchange, and where Republican voters, exclusively, will feel the pain of unaffordable health insurance premiums.

If I didn't know any better, I'd dare to claim that a few Obama's strategists are behind this latest lawsuit attempting to gut ObamaCare. I don't see any drawbacks for Democrats should they be victorious, as perfectly as it would work against Republicans in 2016.

 

glasshouses

(484 posts)
8. They are going to follow the law as it was written in the ACA
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 12:36 PM
Mar 2015

It's fixable but it will go back to the states to open exchanges

 

glasshouses

(484 posts)
7. I think you're right but the subsides could end
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 12:33 PM
Mar 2015

Now states will have to decide if they want to open their own exchange.

It's still fixable in that respect

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
13. I'm glad you're so certain. I'm not.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 01:47 PM
Mar 2015

And, for me, this is life and death.

I really wish you wouldn't so blithely dismiss the worry that this bullshit is causing.

 

NM_Birder

(1,591 posts)
14. interesting,
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:00 PM
Mar 2015

the ACA has a hell of a lot more than health insurance wrapped into it, as does all legislation. Cut a few spokes out the wheel, and the health insurance aspect of the ACA could implode for lack of ability to fund itself. "Obamacare is not going anywhere", i think you are literally correct in that statement, however I think your comment is more correct than you know. "the ACA is not going anywhere", as in its about to stagnate, and bog itself down into irrelevancy, leaving those signed up for it in limbo and very likely to be turned away from doctors because of the question of government reimbursement for an ACA policy that is in a funding flux.

The exchanges do not exist in every state, some states do some don't.
The subsidy for those that are not able to afford a plan is not universally applied because of the exchange issue.

PO expressed HIMSELF that he has no plan on how to defend the ACA should it be crippled by the court.
The ACA does not have to be "overturned" in order for it to be crippled beyond use, if the subsidy funding stream is interrupted just a small amount..... it will likely implode within a short time period.

"Take that to the bank" I know what you meant, .....but it just adds to the interesting irony of your post. "Obamacare" is GOP slang for the ACA,......... it really isn't going anywhere, and the banks and insurance providers are the victorious ones. 12 million signed up, 12 million dropped from previous plans, the critical funding aspect of the ACA exposed and potentially vulnerable. An admitted lack of interest in defending the ACA should it be crippled by the court, and the recent cherry on top is Obama and the Dems proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that a breech of protocol is enough to snub our greatest Middle East ally in lieu of what is sure to be an Iranian "negotiation" double cross at the bargaining table, with Kerry set up to be the white house scapegoat.

Inspiring times these are, at least Hillary has already been elected President in 2016, good thing too because the Dem pool is pretty shallow for those actually running in 2016. Democrats need to stop pretending the Senate and House defeats were a sign that they have the countries confidence.





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