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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:27 AM Mar 2015

What Do You Take for a Cold? (Spoiler Alert!) More Alternative Medicine Horseshit!

When I had cancer, I wanted a bona-fide oncologist and I wanted it gone! No way was I going to drink garlic mixed with my own urine as an alternative cure (Yes, thank you, in six more months I will have been cancer free for 10 years) But, I have learned something in my 60 something years of being on this planet and that is, some old folklore stuff really does work. For instance, it is rare for me to get a cold but when I do, honey, whiskey and lemon work just fine. A four ounce glass of that mixture and not only can I breathe better, I will sleep like a baby. (A good sip of moonshine works too but even here in good ole Kentucky that is hard to find unless you know somebody). Burn yourself a bit getting cookies out of the oven? A bit of ice water on the burn will do the trick or just some good old fashioned yellow mustard on it works too. Might want to follow up the burn with some neosporin though. Modern medicine is a godsend but I don't want to throw out all of grandmas idea just yet. She might have been on to something for a few simple medical things.

What say ye?

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What Do You Take for a Cold? (Spoiler Alert!) More Alternative Medicine Horseshit! (Original Post) leftofcool Mar 2015 OP
I don't drink A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2015 #1
My father was a board certified melm00se Mar 2015 #40
For a cold GP6971 Mar 2015 #2
I think you're conflating treating symptoms and treating diseases. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #3
Not necessarily true > ice water on burns. Atman Mar 2015 #11
Well, true, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #12
I don't get colds or the flu anymore RiverLover Mar 2015 #4
I have to have a pretty bad HappyMe Mar 2015 #5
Ice works on burns well madokie Mar 2015 #6
Tell your nephews to hang in there. leftofcool Mar 2015 #7
True, and if your nephews have blood cancers, kaiden Mar 2015 #26
I had that Zicam zinc stuff work really well one time, or at least it seemed to. brewens Mar 2015 #8
for a sore throat I take safeinOhio Mar 2015 #9
I discovered, quite by accident that COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #10
Aloe in the shaving cream maybe? leftofcool Mar 2015 #13
Could well be. But what's curious is how it COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #14
That's what I would think. The aloe's already in there to alleviate razor burn. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #15
Depends if you're talking about while the burn is happening or after the burn. jeff47 Mar 2015 #29
In this case it would be the second explanation as I applied COLGATE4 Mar 2015 #30
Elecampane: For Bronchitis and to combat Respiratory Congestion due to colds TheBlackAdder Mar 2015 #16
I don't get colds often, but when I do, I get legendarily sick. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #17
Personally, I think NyQuil is one of the greatest inventions of the 20th century WillowTree Mar 2015 #20
Scotch... Oktober Mar 2015 #18
Bed rest and Alka-Seltzer to alalcalize. plenty of water to hydrate. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2015 #19
For a cold, Zicam every 4 hours starting as soon as I experience symptoms. WillowTree Mar 2015 #21
The active ingredient... CanSocDem Mar 2015 #22
There is a little ol' leaf that grows on a tree... bobGandolf Mar 2015 #23
I pour two tbs of salt in a small pan with an inch of water betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #24
Interesting. When I was a kid growing up in Florida and got a cold, Nay Mar 2015 #38
I think the heated steam augments the salt. n/t betterdemsonly Mar 2015 #39
Definitely pipi_k Mar 2015 #25
For a cold? Bettie Mar 2015 #27
homemade elderberry tincture or tea eShirl Mar 2015 #28
I swear by chicken soup Ratty Mar 2015 #31
Rumpleminze (100 proof mint schnapps) is good for cold. Helps with the cough and clears the sinuses Erose999 Mar 2015 #32
All modern medicine was once alternative medicine. former9thward Mar 2015 #33
My Ukrainian grandmother's cure for the cold: two aspirins and a bottle of vodka. GliderGuider Mar 2015 #34
Chew garlic LiberalEsto Mar 2015 #35
we use Aloe for minor burns. wife keeps a plant going all the time. littlewolf Mar 2015 #36
Pseudophedrine and codeine. hunter Mar 2015 #37
My daughter was in the hospital for a couple of weeks. The room was dry and she started jwirr Mar 2015 #41
I can't remember the last real cold I had Blue_In_AK Mar 2015 #42

GP6971

(31,168 posts)
2. For a cold
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:34 AM
Mar 2015

Hot tea, bourbon, honey and lemon works fine for us. That is if we're not going into work.

Hadn't heard of yellow mustard on burns.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. I think you're conflating treating symptoms and treating diseases.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:38 AM
Mar 2015

You're not actually treating a disease with 'honey, whiskey, and lemon'. You're helping to mask the symptoms so you can rest more easily. Ditto ice water on (very minor) burns. It's a way to alleviate symptoms, and just let your body continue to work on the underlying problems. I wouldn't call that 'alternative medicine'.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
11. Not necessarily true > ice water on burns.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:55 AM
Mar 2015

If you do it immediately, the cold water stops the literal burning. Think of it like leaving a piece of meat to stand after cooking it...it keeps cooking just from the heat it already has stored up. Same principle with a burn, so you put ice water on it immediately to stop continued skin damage.

I never heard of mustard on a burn, either. But after a couple of shots of whiskey who gives a damn how sick they are?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
12. Well, true,
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:57 AM
Mar 2015

maybe I worded that comment less clearly than I should have - you're certainly right about heat exchange. My point is that I wouldn't consider those sorts of things 'alternative medicine'.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. I don't get colds or the flu anymore
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:42 AM
Mar 2015

But I take a ton of vits & supplements ev day. Who knows what is helping with that.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
5. I have to have a pretty bad
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:42 AM
Mar 2015

cold to take something for it. I usually will do either DayQuil or NyQuil.

I don't do much for burns. If it's bad I may put a dab of Neosporin on it and cover with a bandaid for a day.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
6. Ice works on burns well
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:43 AM
Mar 2015

I burnt my hand badly once and being out on a job site all by myself in the middle of no where the only thing I had was the Ice water I had to drink. I couldn't get that lid off fast enough and as soon as I plunged my hand into that ice water the hurt went away. I kept my hand in Ice water for a couple days and nights, kind of a pain in the backside trying to sleep with one hand in a bucket of ice water but it can be done. About a month later I was working on something and caught the skin in the palm of my hand and it ripped it an under neath it was the prettiest pink skin I had ever seen. I peeled the what would have been a blister off and other than being tender from not having any callus build up yet my hand was fine. I used the same trick when our grand daughter burnt a finger one day and to this day when she hurts herself she wants me cause she knows that I know how to make it stop hurting.

I'm happy that you've conquered the cancer. I have two nephews right now taking treatments for cancer. Stem cell transplant has one in remission and the other nephew is preparing to have the same stem cell transplant treatment. I think he goes in in a couple weeks for that. They both were given chemo and that is almost as bad as the cancer but one is in remission and the other is hoping for the same.
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kaiden

(1,314 posts)
26. True, and if your nephews have blood cancers,
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:27 AM
Mar 2015

Stem cell transplants work very well to eradicate those cancers.

brewens

(13,596 posts)
8. I had that Zicam zinc stuff work really well one time, or at least it seemed to.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:49 AM
Mar 2015

The next time, no effect.

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
9. for a sore throat I take
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:49 AM
Mar 2015

about a quarter tea spoon of cheyenne pepper mixed in about an inch of water, stir real good and swallow. Works every time.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
10. I discovered, quite by accident that
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:52 AM
Mar 2015

aerosol shaving cream works wonders for a burn, particularly if applied immediately. No idea why.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
14. Could well be. But what's curious is how it
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:00 AM
Mar 2015

takes away the hurt almost immediately. Aloe is a remarkable natural product.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
29. Depends if you're talking about while the burn is happening or after the burn.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:57 AM
Mar 2015

The propellants in the shaving cream causes a cooling effect - they're expanding and evaporating. As a result, they can cool a burn that literally just happened - as in you take your hand off the stove and spray it with shaving cream.

If you're talking about a little while after the burn, then the effect is likely caused by the soothing agents that make razor burn not hurt.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
30. In this case it would be the second explanation as I applied
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:12 AM
Mar 2015

the shaving cream by hand, not propelled from the can. Thanks.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
16. Elecampane: For Bronchitis and to combat Respiratory Congestion due to colds
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:13 AM
Mar 2015

.


I used to take have to take Zithromax Z-Pak 10's, or other high-powered antibiotic, 3-4 times a year for Bronchitis.


My ex sister-in-law, who is an Army wife, turned me onto elecampane. She said that it is used in certain countries to fight anthrax and does well for people with respiratory issues. She recommended 12 drops in 8 oz. of water every 8 hours.


I haven't had to take any medication to fight bronchitis for almost 5 years now!

Just expectorant and Vicks KAZ steamer (like what I would take with the Z-Pak) and the elecampane.


Additional Comment: The suggested dosage, is 3 times what I need. I have not had a need to come anywhere near the suggested dosage. This means that a bottle, with a family of 5, lasts a couple of years... and that bottle costs only $14 to address any cold and congestion issues we have.

There is a time and a place for homeopathy, natural remedies, and pharmacology. The strict anti-natural people and those who are anti-pharm are just as mentally polarized as many in politics. That's not a good thing. Secondly, many of the anti-natural studies that are performed, are done so in research labs well funded my Big PhRMA, which is no different than getting a climate change study performed by a lab that takes millions from Big Oil.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
17. I don't get colds often, but when I do, I get legendarily sick.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:13 AM
Mar 2015

Sometimes all that really works is some NyQuil and a good night's rest.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
21. For a cold, Zicam every 4 hours starting as soon as I experience symptoms.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:42 AM
Mar 2015

For burns, or really any insult to the skin, I learned long ago that if I start applying Vitamin E oil several times a day once the wound is dry, it really helps healing and either lessens scarring or avoids it altogether. I've had two nasty burns on relatively tender skin areas and have virtually no scar at all left from either. Learned that from my kid sister, and was also recommended by the doctor that treated me for the first of those burns.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
22. The active ingredient...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:51 AM
Mar 2015


...in most over-the-counter cold medicine is already alcohol, so a "hot toddy" isn't far off. How do you think Modern Medicine makes their medicine? They patent what already works.

Dr Sidney Wolfe wrote about this in the 60's and 70's.



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bobGandolf

(871 posts)
23. There is a little ol' leaf that grows on a tree...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:53 AM
Mar 2015

that has been helping many people. The DEA and the pharmacology mills would just love to make it illegal. It is Kratom, Mitragyna speciosa. It is in the coffee family. It is used to relieve pain, and a stimulant.

At the same time, researchers are studying kratom’s ability to help wean addicts from much stronger drugs, such as heroin and cocaine. Studies show that a compound found in the plant could even serve as the basis for an alternative to methadone in treating addictions to opioids.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
24. I pour two tbs of salt in a small pan with an inch of water
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:09 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Wed Mar 11, 2015, 12:02 PM - Edit history (3)

I boil it, then I remove it from the heat, then I breath the steam with my face close enough to get uncomfortably warm, but not burn. In through the nose, out through the mouth, preferably. I repeat this twice in a row, once a day. I repeat this by reheating the pot after 7 minutes. It seems to eliminate the symptoms.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
38. Interesting. When I was a kid growing up in Florida and got a cold,
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 12:39 PM
Mar 2015

my dad would take us to the beach (summer only, of course) and have us swim around for an hour, making sure we sucked up and blew out lots of salt water. It cleared our heads and made the cold shorter. Nowadays, I guess you could use saline in a netipot.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
25. Definitely
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:17 AM
Mar 2015

raw garlic, smooshed up and taken in a cup of warm water.

I used to use raw garlic each winter from Oct - March as a preventative, but its anti clotting properties clash with another supplement I take so now I only use garlic if I've already gotten a cold, which hasn't happened in over six years. It lessens the severity, and shortens the cold by at least two days.

Something else I use is nasal rinsing, both to deal with year long rhinitis/allergies and to help prevent dry nasal passages which can lead to a cold. Again, the one time I got a cold, the nasal rinse was extremely helpful in rinsing out nasty nose mucus and very soothing.


I'm also pretty anal about washing my hands, and not handling money and keeping my hands away from my nose and eyes. I would say the most significant thing in preventing colds is not handling money. IMO, anyway.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
27. For a cold?
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:32 AM
Mar 2015

Lots of sleep (or as much as I can get as a mom with three boys).

Hot tea with lemon to soothe a sore throat.

Tissues with lotion to keep the nose from getting too sore.

Plenty of water.

I'm fortunate that I don't get sick often, because my family fears me when I'm not feeling well, I get a little cranky.

eShirl

(18,494 posts)
28. homemade elderberry tincture or tea
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:42 AM
Mar 2015

I usually make my own tincture by filling a mason jar 1/3 with dried elderberries, then fill it up to 1- 1 1/2 " below the top with cheap vodka, letting it steep for at least a month and shaking well every few days when I think of it. Then strain out the solids with several layers of cheesecloth. Anyway, normally I take a shot of that every few hours when I first start to feel cold or flu symptoms. If I don't want alcohol I'll put a teaspoon of dried elderberries in a teaball and steep it in a mug of boiling water until cooled to room temperature, and drink that.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
31. I swear by chicken soup
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:31 AM
Mar 2015

I always keep 5 days of chicken soup in the freezer for the inevitable flu I always catch in the winter (though this year I seem to have dodged the bullet). When I don't have the soup my flu lasts days and recovery is long. When I gorge myself on soup the flu lasts a day or two at most and I'm back on my feet almost immediately. That stuff's magic I tells ya.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
32. Rumpleminze (100 proof mint schnapps) is good for cold. Helps with the cough and clears the sinuses
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:52 AM
Mar 2015

A spoonfull of hot sauce or a bit of horseradish or wasabi is also good for clearing the sinuses.

Gargling saltwater helps with sore throat.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
33. All modern medicine was once alternative medicine.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:59 AM
Mar 2015

Through experimentation and results it became conventional medicine including whatever you used to attack your cancer. 100 years from now doctors will be shaking their heads at much of what we call modern medicine.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
34. My Ukrainian grandmother's cure for the cold: two aspirins and a bottle of vodka.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 12:10 PM
Mar 2015

1. Put the two aspirins on the bedside table.
2. Drink the vodka until you can see 4 aspirins.
3. Take all 4 aspirins.
4. Go to sleep.
5. Repeat until cured.

it hasn't failed me yet. After about a week of this treatment, I'm cured.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
35. Chew garlic
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 12:16 PM
Mar 2015

It really helps for colds

Take a clove, peel it, have a cup of water handy. Chew with the back teeth so you don't have to taste too much of it. Wash down with water immediately.

Also: zinc tablets, neti pot to rinse out sinuses, and lemon-ginger tea are good, especially when you feel a cold starting.

Last week I used all of the above, and my cold came and went in three days. My daughter, who passed it to me, was sick for more than a week, and didn't start feeling better until I urged her to try the garlic and zinc.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
37. Pseudophedrine and codeine.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 12:21 PM
Mar 2015

Too bad you're not going to find a physician in the U.S.A. who will prescribe that for the common cold.

Both can be made from ordinary plants (ephedra and opium) and even my great grandmas and their grandmothers would have been familiar with those sorts of cold medicines.


jwirr

(39,215 posts)
41. My daughter was in the hospital for a couple of weeks. The room was dry and she started
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:42 PM
Mar 2015

having trouble breathing. I knew what to do as it had happened before. I asked the doctor to ask them to put Vicks on her chest - no way. After he walked out of the room the nurse sympathized with me. She had young children. I asked her if she would get me a bottle of Vicks if I gave her the money. She did. The next day the "cold" went away. I assume the doctor could smell the Vicks but he did not say anything.

Today we don't use the Vicks anymore - the nose strips work.

There are many home remedies that do work.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
42. I can't remember the last real cold I had
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 02:49 PM
Mar 2015

but my grown kids always hit me up for home remedies that I used on them when they were little. Ginger tea for upset stomachs, garlic for earaches, etc. We're all real healthy. Big pharma would go bankrupt if they had to depend on this family for their income.

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