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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/giant-dinosaur-looking-gator-found-florida-golf-article-1.2145352
A massive dinosaur-like alligator found crawling on a Florida golf course has even the natives shocked.
The giant prehistoric-looking gator was spotted last weekend at the Myakka Pines Golf Club near the Gulf Coast, moving from one pond to another, the Englewood club posted on Facebook.
"Another view of the Gator on the course yesterday," Myakka Pines wrote. "What a dinosaur looking reptile!"
The gator, estimated to be about 13-feet long, has been calling the golf course home for the last week, Myakka Pines general manager Mickie Zada told the Daily News.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Don't want to go into the water trap to look for your balls.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)There's something both fearful and exhilarating about them that will forever intrigue me.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I got the strangest feeling, a feeling I'd never had before or since, of being whisked back in time eons and eons. The gators were so still and prehistoric ... it gave me a weird vertigo. Amazing sensation.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)SwissTony
(2,560 posts)I used to live in Darwin in Australia and in certain circumstances (like taking the dog for a walk next to creeks), you had to be aware of the possibilities. But they are magnificent creatures.
ffr
(22,670 posts)And those would be??? Probably not someone named Mickie Zada. Was thinking something more Seminole-like, like Nashoba Shiye (Wolf Son).
randome
(34,845 posts)I see it in Loony Tunes all the time.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesnt always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one youre already in.[/center][/font][hr]
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)Eek!!!
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Huge, though!
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)We have tons of gators here. He is nice sized but I don't think that is all that unusual. I have a 10 footer in the lake behind my house. He does not bother me and I don't bother him!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)In other words, an alligator.
I'm wondering if the author of this piece has actually seen an alligator before.
They ALL look like bleedin' dinosaurs, for fucks sake.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I'm guessing 13 feet is really big.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I have been playing in the waters of Florida my whole life and it is rare to see one that is 13 feet. If this one is truly 13 feet. Very possible considering the area. Myakka is know for its large gators. I have seen many over 10 feet, one I would put around 12, not sure about a wild 13 footer. I probably have but unless they are on the bank it is difficult to tell. Not sure if there is all that big of a difference in 3 feet, from 10 to 13. Both can clear out a golf course lake in short order.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)According to Wikipedia, 13 feet is about average for an adult.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator
I lived in Ft. Myers for a time - 06' through 09' and was a regular visitor to a county park (Lakes Park) which was a former quarry, so lots of lakes. I saw one there that had to be every bit of 13 feet. Seen plenty of large gators on trips across the glades, either on I75 or US 41
They do indeed get big.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It looks like a gator. It is a gator. I thought I was missing something at first.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)I think part of it is that we usually don't see them completely out of the water like that. Also it is big.
pansypoo53219
(20,978 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)State Archives of Florida, Florida Memory, http://floridamemory.com/items/show/254215
The engravings published by Theodor de Bry in Grand Voyages (1591), after watercolors made by Jacques Le Moyne de Morgues, are the earliest known European depictions of Native Americans in what is now known as the United States. Le Moyne, a member of the short-lived French colony known as Fort Caroline, based the watercolors on his experiences in Florida in the 1560s. De Bry later published Le Moyne's work, along with other illustrations of the New World, as part of an effort to encourage European colonization in the Americas.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It isn't often we get 13 footers so it is rather large if they are accurate on the size. That being said, it wouldn't garner much of a second glance from most Florida natives. Myakka is notorious for its large gators. The Myakka river is packed with them. I have often seen 10 footers. They also love golf courses but are often moved or killed when this large. In Myakka one never has to go far to find large gators.
Oneironaut
(5,504 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)That is one badass prehistoric critter.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Lots of big bull gators start wandering around this time of year.
They can climb fences and get into golf courses and backyards.
They are a great endangered species come back story too.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,735 posts)for the tapering of the tail.
I couldn't see what was so distinct about this alligator, but noticed for the first time what a splendid whipping head that tail could be.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)with the Chihuahua setting a box trap and calling "Here, Lizard Lizard Lizard"
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Anywhere he wants to.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)dogindia
(1,345 posts)probably.
Several years back I spent some time to call Florida to save another one and was told they always kill them
Florida is a horrific state which will soon be under water if the governor has anything to say about it.
Orrex
(63,215 posts)there'll be more room for the alligators.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)These headline writers: a) must have never lived in Florida and/or b) are reaching for the most extreme headlines for clicks.
LeftinOH
(5,354 posts)Having never seen one in the wild, I'm curious. Run like hell, right?
steve2470
(37,457 posts)One more tip: Do NOT walk your small dog by a river, canal, pond or lake in Florida. Your cute doggie may end up as a tasty snack for a gator.
ETA: The "slowly" reference is to not making the gator think you are prey.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)Predators chase after things that run. It's part of their nature, they look scary and that makes prey run which gives them away. It's kind of like a reflexive response. Bears chase things that run too and humans can't outrun them.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Then all you have to do is outrun the other human.
Baitball Blogger
(46,735 posts)it's best to run away from them in a zig-zag pattern.
We haven't tested our theory yet.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)they say not to do the zig-zag run, as that can trip you up.
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)He said "When do you zig and when do you zag"?
I said "Trial and error".
Oh, how we laughed.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Most of the time, they are pretty shy.
Mating season the bulls wander around but just keep your distance.
What's amazing is when tourists come down and try to take pictures with them. I guess because the gators are sunning and not moving much the tourists think it's safe. Most of the time, the tourists just get a big scare. Sometimes it's a bite though.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)Take a mental inventory of your shoe and luggage collection and determine if this is the right gator for your wardrobe.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)You don't have to be faster than the gator, just faster than your friend.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)You'll be fine.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Walk away slowly and, in the case of gators, AWAY from the edge of any pond, lake, or other body of water. Better yet, if you know you are in areas where there are alligators (pretty much anywhere in the southeast, but especially in Florida), don't linger near the edge of any body of water.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,269 posts)Diving into snowbanks could be a whole new experience.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)They will probably make that movie now, lol.
Orrex
(63,215 posts)I'm sure that the 911 call would go something like:
"I'm calling to report a totally normal-sized alligator that should in no way be described as dinosaur-like, because the most important thing in cases like this is to avoid any hyperbole for dramatic effect."
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)It would be startling in any one's house. It's not really startling in a lot of Florida.
Orrex
(63,215 posts)Whatever the issue, no matter how surprising or noteworthy, we can rely on a contigent of DUers to trip over themselves in their eagerness to tell the world how mundane they find the 13-foot alligator or whatever.
I was riffing on that whole world-weary hipster vibe, rather than on the likely size of anyone's bathtub.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Orrex
(63,215 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)"There's a huge freakin' gator in my bathtub! And he's looking at me! And BTW, my two cats are missing! And what the hell is a gator doing in Indiana? How big is it? How should I know? I didn't measure it, for crying out loud!"
Orrex
(63,215 posts)For my part, I think they'd hear a frenzied string of profanity followed by a violent crunching and maybe a gurgle.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,181 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,840 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)well the giant roaches, especially the palmetto bugs which had wings and could fly. I lived in an apartment where were some and they would fly and dive bomb me.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)just kidding!
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I'm guessing play is rather impeded, though. At that size they are quite dangerous.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)Very typical around where I live. I like near the St. Johns River in Central Florida. Lake Jessup runs into the River. On a nice warm day you can see dozens of these big guys as you drive over the lake.
I've seen them in runoff ponds and just about anywhere with water.
adigal
(7,581 posts)We can't just kill everything that scares us. These are scary creatures, but they've been here for millions of years and are really very cool.
I do admit, though, a fascination with how you know they are in a lake before you swim in it in Florida? We have wonderful lakes here in upstate NY, and everyone swims in them. Are there gators in every southern lake?? And wasn't there one in the ocean in the Carolinas in the fall?? I know crocs will run out of the ocean in Australia, grab you, and pull you in!
ancianita
(36,079 posts)They don't"travel" except during mating season, spring, when bulls return to a previous nest. Then the mother chases the young gators out or they'll get eaten. Young gators then roam to wherever there's water, sometimes by following the water they're in or sometimes by going across land.
In many Florida counties, if your water is near your house, you can get any gator removed that's five feet long or over. Even though they're in brackish or fresh water, they don't like busy, noisy, human-filled areas, so you might be able to swim in large bay areas.
Gators don't travel for food. That's what crocodiles do in fast moving rivers. Crocodiles are the real dangerous reptiles and infest most waterways in Australia. Gators prefer to lie around, let their food swim by. Seriously. They'd have to be vexed by some human to even bother chasing them.
TMI, probably, but I winter in Florida and find it kinda fascinating, too.
If you don't want gators, stick to salt water on the coasts.
adigal
(7,581 posts)I'm glad they have made a comeback.
ancianita
(36,079 posts)courses put hundreds of gator babies into their decorative 'canals' for people to feed, they just dump them out in any nearby waterway to distribute themselves into the wild. So yeah, humans are a factor in their skyrocketing numbers.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)and move to the next tee.
blogslut
(38,002 posts)Alligators are dinosaurs.
eppur_se_muova
(36,269 posts)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archosaur
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Yeah, where I live (Naples) they are in the lakes. The golfers go crazy when they see them. If these gators leave the tropical birds alone on the banks, they will leave YOU and your CLUBS alone if you don't bother them. Lived here for 7 years and have never seen them come on up dry land.
Of course, none of them are 13 feet long.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)...you'll come across sometimes dozens of alligators literally a few feet off the path. At no point do they ever attack you. It's surreal.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)They are all around on the land too. My husband and his coworker have ridden their bikes in Shark Valley many times. No gator ever attacked them.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)edbermac
(15,941 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Classes. Right there, in the old campus area, scores of onlookers. When they want to go overland, they Will go overland.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)He was there in the early 70s when I was there, use to swim with the gators.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Half a century ago, my Dad and I fished Biven's Arm Lake off a spit. Had to chase sunning gators off to get to the point. Some real knockers in that lake, but the biggest are in Alachua Sink Park SE of town on Payne's Prairie. Scores of 'em, some pushing 14ft. The ranger there thinks there are 16 footers. This approaches to legendary 20 footers once believed to be in the upper St. Johns River.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)Alice and Bivens.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)The only think we have to worry about here in the Pacific Northwest is Sasquatch. And real estate developers.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)The U of F has 2,000 contiguous acres in SW Gainesville, which includes a sizeable lake and a number of sink ponds. Its immediate property borders Biven's Arm Lake. As a kid, I remember the west side of the school's property was traced by a graded dirt road up until 1961. You would pass the University golf course and the grassy-domed nuclear reactor on the way to a dove field west of town. Quite a culture, and I miss it.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)How to act around all the gators is part of orientation now.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)We used to swim and sail in Lake Wauburg; that place had over 100 gators. It was rare there was a problem and if so, it was always some drunk student trying to ride one.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)don't swim sign, placed near the dock and floats when personnel were chasing off nesting female gators. Arrogance and petty defiance are poor substitutes for free will and personal enablement.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Granted, there probably were a few close to that.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)down there. Especially crocs that weigh a ton and are 21 feet long.
http://travel.aol.co.uk/2014/04/03/worlds-largest-crocodile-captured-and-killed/
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)But none that grow 21 feet long, fortunately.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)The NY Daily News editor for this story needs to get out of the city more often.
shanti
(21,675 posts)I'd never live in Florida.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)They put on a demonstration one year that we went there. My husband watches their TV show all the time. It was very crowded and we could barely get near where they were giving their demonstration.
Gator Boys truly have a love and respect for these animals which I deeply admire.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)He's an alligator-looking alligator! Anything relating to science is nearly guaranteed poor writing. Near-death experience articles are notoriously awful...
woodsprite
(11,916 posts)They were cautioned to check under their cars before getting in because gators like to shade themselves. She had to get my FIL to chase a gator out of their garage. She left the door open when she was moving things to the potting shed area and came back to find an 8' gator in the garage. There is a worn path the beasts take from the water that goes right between her and her neighbors house. I guess they try to get to the canals behind the houses across the street. All that being said, we loved watching the babies play at the edge of her yard last year, but stayed a safe distance away. Didn't want to make momma gator mad!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)there was an alligator going into a yard fountain which I mentioned to folks in the car. Our Indian friend took special notice. Once saw golfers surprised by a couple coyotes on a golf course one morning even though they each had bags of iron sticks. Nature rules.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)If play is impeded by gator, do I have to take a penalty stroke?
It's golf; gators must be covered under the rules somewhere.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)dembotoz
(16,808 posts)see they are still around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)That is the thickest tail I've eva seen on a crocodilian! WOW!
anotojefiremnesuka
(198 posts)not f around with something that was around before man was.
No fur, claws or sharp teeth humans are a tasty treat!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)SwissTony
(2,560 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Tyrs WolfDaemon
(2,289 posts)Then they can become members of the Club and not have to sneak around the ponds.
raccoon
(31,111 posts)Sensationalism, anyone?
raccoon
(31,111 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)underpants
(182,829 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)nice sensationalist headlines and prose. oy vey.
gators are everywhere in FL. So this one is well above average in size. To me, no big deal.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I love these kind of threads in GD. Something silly to have pleasant conversation over!
Chomp!