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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 01:25 PM Mar 2015

Wolf Attacks More Myth Than Reality : Discovery News

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A politician is spinning a tale about big bad wolves, but a fact check shows people have a greater chance of being killed by an elevator than a wolf.

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Like so nany Repub policies and laws, the attack on wolves is based on myth, misconception, and outright lies.

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Wolf Attacks More Myth Than Reality : Discovery News (Original Post) Panich52 Mar 2015 OP
Considering the source... 2naSalit Mar 2015 #1
a lot of Dems don't care MisterP Mar 2015 #2
K & R! HuckleB Mar 2015 #3
I thought wolf attacks were generally directed at livestock and pets... Threedifferentones Mar 2015 #4
Coyotes are known to take pets but wolves, so far, stick to traditional prey - deer, rabbits, etc. Panich52 Mar 2015 #8
Yes, but "the big, bad elevator" ... surrealAmerican Mar 2015 #5
I had the pleasure of caring for two wolves Oilwellian Mar 2015 #6
they need help G_j Mar 2015 #7
Please post your reply as its own thread. Panich52 Mar 2015 #10
actually, G_j Mar 2015 #11
Ask backpackers what they worry about. HuckleB Mar 2015 #9
Using poison ivy as toilet paper NickB79 Mar 2015 #12
Clearly, you write horror stories. HuckleB Mar 2015 #13

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
1. Considering the source...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 01:53 PM
Mar 2015

it's amazing they actually made such a claim. I spend a good part of my time explaining to the unenlightened about wolf behavior because there is too much stupid mythology out there.

Thanks for posting, it is true. However, one caveat, if you like to take your dogs out in wolf country, be prepared to possibly lose Fido... they will be seen by wolves as an intruder and likely be attacked and killed.

Threedifferentones

(1,070 posts)
4. I thought wolf attacks were generally directed at livestock and pets...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 06:52 PM
Mar 2015

Not that I'm any sort of expert.

Now certainly I support protecting wolves and allowing them to flourish in parks and other sparsely populated areas.

But, wolves and coyotes still worry me because they are known to kill other animals. Okay wolves don't actually worry me because there's none anywhere near where I live, but those coyotes OTOH...

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
8. Coyotes are known to take pets but wolves, so far, stick to traditional prey - deer, rabbits, etc.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:33 PM
Mar 2015

Of course, as urban sprawl continues, that could change. We moce into their territory and then feel compelled to hunt them down for doing what they do. Just like we've done w/ coyotes.

surrealAmerican

(11,361 posts)
5. Yes, but "the big, bad elevator" ...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:02 PM
Mar 2015

... is not the stuff of children's stories.

Maybe we need to tell our children new stories so that they will know what the real hazards are in their world.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
6. I had the pleasure of caring for two wolves
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:25 PM
Mar 2015

and they are by nature, terrified of humans.

Killing them is doing untold damage to our eco-system.

G_j

(40,367 posts)
7. they need help
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:27 PM
Mar 2015

http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/obama-administration-sides-with-hunters-over-protection-of-gray-wolves-150303?news=855838


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FWS filed court documents with a Washington, DC-based court of appeals saying it opposed a federal judge’s decision to restore legal protection for gray wolves in the western Great Lakes region.

The Obama administration is joined by two states, Michigan and Wisconsin, which also objected to U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell’s ruling in December that said the states’ management plans for the wolves don’t do enough to protect the species. Howell’s ruling also applied to the management plan developed by Minnesota. The plans in all three states allow sports hunting; in Michigan and Wisconsin they also permit the trapping of wolves.

FWS spokeswoman Laury Parramore told the Associated Press: “The science clearly shows that wolves are recovered in the Great Lakes region, and we believe the Great Lakes states have clearly demonstrated their ability to effectively manage their wolf populations.”

But Howell believes more needs to be done for the animals.

The judge wrote that the Endangered Species Act (pdf) “offers the broadest possible protections for endangered species by design. This law reflects the commitment by the United States to act as a responsible steward of the Earth's wildlife, even when such stewardship is inconvenient or difficult for the localities where an endangered or threatened species resides.”

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petition

We, the undersigned, are concerned with your plans to appeal a federal decision to restore endangered species protections for Michigan's grey wolves.

As you may know, Michigan's wolf population grew from only six in 1970 to a little over 600. Research shows that wolves play a crucial role in maintaining the ecosystem. Natural predators like wolves help control moose and other herbivores that demolish wildlife habitats. Remains of wolves' prey provide food for scavengers and enrich the soil, which combats climate change.

Michigan cannot afford to lose their wolves again due to overzealous hunting and trapping. We respectfully urge you to reconsider your plans to fight endangered protections for grey wolves. Thank you for taking the time to read and consider our petition.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/653/775/667/michigan-dont-fight-endangered-protections-for-grey-wolves/?


HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
9. Ask backpackers what they worry about.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:35 PM
Mar 2015

Well, first, it's the drive to the trailhead, as that's the most dangerous part of the trip. OK, that and the drive home.

Then, it might be a lack of water, or, ok, Grizzlies, if you're in their territory, or snakes, or spiders, or moose.

I think my point has been made.

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