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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:02 PM Mar 2015

National Outrage Grows As 22 Newspaper Editorials Blast Senate Republican Letter To Iran



National Outrage Grows As 22 Newspaper Editorials Blast Senate Republican Letter To Iran
By: Jason Easley
Wednesday, March, 11th, 2015, 2:43 pm


Newspapers all across the country are ripping the 47 Senate Republicans who attempted to sabotage President Obama by writing a letter to Iran. Here is a sampling of the criticism from no less than 22 newspaper editorial boards.

The Concord Monitor in New Hampshire took Sen. Kelly Ayotte to task for signing the letter, “Ayotte and the rest of the gang of 47 would like nothing more than for the American people to view the letter as a necessary defense against misguided negotiations and flawed policies, a comeuppance for an arrogant commander in chief who flaunts his contempt for the Constitution. They want you to know, America, that they wrote the letter for you because Obama must be stopped. In reality, they are playing a political game dangerously out of bounds.”

The editorial board of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette wrote that the senators who signed the letter should be ashamed, “America’s partners in the talks are among the world’s most important nations — China, France, Germany, Russia and the United Kingdom. They can only be appalled at seeing Secretary of State John Kerry and the president, who are charged with making the nation’s foreign policy, hit from behind by one house of the federal legislature. The senators who signed the letter should be ashamed.”

The Sacramento Bee wrote that Senate Republicans need a civics lesson, “It’s the Republican senators who signed the letter – including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and potential presidential candidates Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida – who could use a remedial civics class. The Constitution gives the president broad authority to conduct foreign policy. The Senate’s “advise and consent” role covers formal treaties. The potential deal on Iran’s nuclear weapons program is not a treaty. It is a multinational agreement that involves Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia, as well as the United States and Iran.”

The Baltimore Sun pulled no punches, “The poison pen note was a shocking example of just how far President Barack Obama’s GOP critics in Congress are willing to go in an effort to undercut his foreign policy goals…The GOP senators might just as well have put up a big sign over their chamber warning the mullahs in Tehran to prepare for war because that’s the practical import of rejecting any possibility of a negotiated resolution of the two countries’ differences. Republican lawmakers in effect have adopted the hard-line agenda of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who offered a similarly uncompromising view of Iranian intentions when he addressed a joint meeting of Congress last week.”

The Boston Globe accused Senate Republicans of winning sympathy for Iran, “WINNING SYMPATHY for the renegade Islamic Republic of Iran is no easy trick. But Republicans in the US Senate seem to be accomplishing it with their breathtakingly reckless intrusion into international diplomacy….The letter not only undercuts the president’s traditional authority to oversee the shaping of foreign policy but badly undermines America’s credibility in the international community.”

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http://www.politicususa.com/2015/03/11/national-outrage-grows-22-newspaper-editorials-blast-senate-republican-letter-iran.html
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National Outrage Grows As 22 Newspaper Editorials Blast Senate Republican Letter To Iran (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2015 OP
But...Hillary didn't prove she didn't not try to hide...something. randome Mar 2015 #1
Everyone has something to hide, In that Case I Trust Hillary!! lewebley3 Mar 2015 #17
"Maybe she sent an EQUALLY STUPID letter to Iran, and THAT'S why she won't let us get our hands on TrollBuster9090 Mar 2015 #34
+1 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #46
HAH! blm Mar 2015 #75
Hehe! Sorry, it's not. But feel free to take the photo and make a meme. :) TrollBuster9090 Mar 2015 #127
Hehe. I'm not for Hillary JimDandy Mar 2015 #126
heheh…exactly blm Mar 2015 #74
Yeah...Baby Names cynzke Mar 2015 #108
Now they are trying to say GusBob Mar 2015 #2
So much for the myth Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #47
It was a joke alright..... cynzke Mar 2015 #109
Reid should write a letter of censure for the 47 Senate Netanyahoos bjobotts Mar 2015 #129
And Democrats should be on every tv program they can access, slamming them repeatedly for sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #3
+1 well said ! n/t jaysunb Mar 2015 #7
^^ this cilla4progress Mar 2015 #8
Yep. But the networks will want to give the GOP equal time. Which means two GOP pols for every DEM. progressoid Mar 2015 #11
Then Dems should start jumping up and down DEMANDING equal time, accusing the networks of sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #29
If elected Dems don't start fighting back, even with all the ammo we have against them, then we Nay Mar 2015 #36
I sent multiple faxes to my Senators Boxer and Feinstein. I think faxes have more impact. NBachers Mar 2015 #96
WHAT A GREAT IDEA! cynzke Mar 2015 #110
Imagine the aides all day having to delete emails they never even open. NBachers Mar 2015 #111
I think if you say America's attempt to reach a nuclear agreement Bandit Mar 2015 #113
Yes, I agree- this was composed & sent late late at night, with little sleep the night before. NBachers Mar 2015 #128
Great letter! SunSeeker Mar 2015 #114
Powerful letter, N Bachers! Duval Mar 2015 #118
That is a fantastic letter. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #120
This is one of those times when I wish I could recommend an individual post. calimary Mar 2015 #53
Hell yes.... daleanime Mar 2015 #58
THIS!! LeftOfWest Mar 2015 #104
Great post, a past due response. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #112
K & R L0oniX Mar 2015 #117
Indeed! City Lights Mar 2015 #13
+++ n/t MBS Mar 2015 #24
This should be an OP malaise Mar 2015 #25
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #38
Right on, keep up the pressure kacekwl Mar 2015 #56
Hell yea! Remember when Republican's were up in arms when we criticized the Shrub for Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #92
Yes, they should. Enough people will "get it"... Beartracks Mar 2015 #99
Yes but will the spineless have a spine even when it isn't needed? L0oniX Mar 2015 #116
This excerpt nails it as well... Spazito Mar 2015 #4
Well said malaise Mar 2015 #27
THUGS Skittles Mar 2015 #93
This Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #48
Great post. Number23 Mar 2015 #72
I am loving they are getting hammered by their own... Spazito Mar 2015 #77
Wait... who said "it was a joke?" Tell me!! Number23 Mar 2015 #78
Republican aides, trying to cover for their bosses... Spazito Mar 2015 #83
Oh. My. GOD I am screaming!! Number23 Mar 2015 #86
They are not only shooting themselves in the foot, they are in serious danger... Spazito Mar 2015 #91
Too bad BROADCAST MEDIA is dug in to protect the GOP Traitor Tots. blm Mar 2015 #76
Fewer and fewer of the public are even watching broadcast or cable news... Spazito Mar 2015 #80
I'm doing what I can. blm Mar 2015 #84
LOL, me too! Spazito Mar 2015 #88
It is becoming more and more obvious, who the problem is in Congress liberal N proud Mar 2015 #5
To make sure voters do not forget, Democrats have to take a lesson out of the Republican playbook. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #12
Who do they pledge their allegiance to? They pledge allegiance first and foremost to A Simple Game Mar 2015 #33
Exactly! This needs to be a topic for any of these 47's next campaign! arcane1 Mar 2015 #101
More often than not, no, voters won't remember. City Lights Mar 2015 #14
They only forget.... daleanime Mar 2015 #59
Y'know, cilla4progress Mar 2015 #6
Even the hugely "liberal" USA Today cilla4progress Mar 2015 #9
What else did we expect maxrandb Mar 2015 #10
This is great to see! City Lights Mar 2015 #15
This will turn out to be an exploding cigar hifiguy Mar 2015 #16
Are those GOP think tanks we've heard so much of in the past, coming up with these stunts, C Moon Mar 2015 #18
I've wondered that too - is Rove and Atwater still kickin? erronis Mar 2015 #23
Grover Norquist is the twerp who had all the repugs sign a no-new-taxes pledge . . . brush Mar 2015 #31
t.v. media much? Not having one anymore, I don't care, but interested. erronis Mar 2015 #19
ki ki ki kickin' Faux pas Mar 2015 #20
From the Des Moines Register... Skidmore Mar 2015 #21
That second letter really says it all. Breathtaking. myrna minx Mar 2015 #32
Indeed. That needs a thread of its own. n/t watrwefitinfor Mar 2015 #107
Wow. Fighting back against the fascists...about time...of course the corporate media will not. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #52
That one from Des Moines is spot on LittleGirl Mar 2015 #81
Abraham Lincoln, made me recall this: El Shaman Mar 2015 #98
Tricky Dick's Party for nearly 50 years... sorechasm Mar 2015 #105
The gift that keeps on giving. Skidmore Mar 2015 #106
I like it. But, it won't matter because their teabag constituents don't read unless it's a misspelled kairos12 Mar 2015 #22
K&R BumRushDaShow Mar 2015 #26
good!!!!!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #28
Citizens can get busy too... ReRe Mar 2015 #30
Just saw over 136K Skidmore Mar 2015 #35
Absolutely... ReRe Mar 2015 #39
Almost 166k. Unfortunately, a second petition Ilsa Mar 2015 #40
165,922 as of 4:53 EDT shireen Mar 2015 #41
Thanks for including the link... ReRe Mar 2015 #43
Yeah, I Heard Her... He Was Impressed Too! n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2015 #95
The current Republican party is the greatest threat. Dawson Leery Mar 2015 #37
Outstanding two sentences..You have said it all.. Stuart G Mar 2015 #57
What?!? chervilant Mar 2015 #42
PLEASE... ReRe Mar 2015 #44
k&r... wake the fuck up, america! spanone Mar 2015 #45
I think the repukian turd maggots want Civil War # 2 olddots Mar 2015 #49
The funny thing is the letter's contents were so juvenile that everyone in Iran is still laughing! Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #50
The knew what kind of people the Republicans were during Carter's term LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #87
Hey MSNBC! SCVDem Mar 2015 #51
The story is being escalated, in the media and Of course here at DU NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #55
I'm involved with two of those very powerful organizations Oilwellian Mar 2015 #119
If someone more liberal than Hillary gets the nomination, then I am all for it NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #122
until this past week hopemountain Mar 2015 #102
All foreign leaders should put these 47 on "no fly" lists into their countries. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #54
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #60
Just called my Teabag Senate slitherer, Ron Johnson. Half-Century Man Mar 2015 #61
Kick pinto Mar 2015 #62
K&R!!! napkinz Mar 2015 #63
Blowback can be a bitch, idiots. Ha! That photo at the link is a prize! Hekate Mar 2015 #64
22? Is that all? Where's the rest of the newspapers? That letter was an outrageous mnhtnbb Mar 2015 #65
National unity by calling out the Republicans for moral bankruptcy and unpatriotic acts? EEO Mar 2015 #66
repukes, they ALWAYS overreach Skittles Mar 2015 #67
Iran effectively dropped the mic on the GOP. n/t Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2015 #68
only 22 huh? barbtries Mar 2015 #69
K & R Scurrilous Mar 2015 #70
They should all be tried for treason They_Live Mar 2015 #71
Yes, there should be more.. Glad the Concord Monitor "took Ayotte to task" though.. among all the Cha Mar 2015 #73
That was pretty delicious. blm Mar 2015 #85
Me too. Cha Mar 2015 #89
This is great news Gothmog Mar 2015 #79
A rare kick by Trajan ... Trajan Mar 2015 #82
kick Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #90
Thank you!! oldandhappy Mar 2015 #94
I Called Marco Rubio's Office... BUT His Office Only Took Messages... ChiciB1 Mar 2015 #97
kick samsingh Mar 2015 #100
bookmarked - lots of righteous nuggets from hopemountain Mar 2015 #103
Look at the bright side ...Ted, Rand and Marco will not be POTUS 2016 because of this. L0oniX Mar 2015 #115
Great articles Oilwellian Mar 2015 #121
kick napkinz Mar 2015 #123
kick ailsagirl Mar 2015 #124
Shennigans turbinetree Mar 2015 #125
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. But...Hillary didn't prove she didn't not try to hide...something.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:05 PM
Mar 2015

Get your priorities straight, babylonsister!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
17. Everyone has something to hide, In that Case I Trust Hillary!!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:41 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:22 PM - Edit history (1)


This is just a dumb right wing story!! pushed by the lying Newyorktimes.

Who may or may not have taken money from the Koch brothers under the table.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
34. "Maybe she sent an EQUALLY STUPID letter to Iran, and THAT'S why she won't let us get our hands on
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:37 PM
Mar 2015
that damned server! We've just GOT to find some evidence that she's as stupid as we are!"





TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
127. Hehe! Sorry, it's not. But feel free to take the photo and make a meme. :)
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 04:49 PM
Mar 2015

I just love the look on Issa's face. "Yeah, yeah, what HE said!"

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
126. Hehe. I'm not for Hillary
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:52 PM
Mar 2015

and I'm a rabid open government advocate (regardless of of the political persuasion of the governmental personnel), but that's about the mentality of much of the RW.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
2. Now they are trying to say
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:08 PM
Mar 2015

it was just a cheeky lil' joke just kidding!!!

it was Obamas fault! He made us!

It was a lil' honest mistake"

Heck of a way to start a war

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. And Democrats should be on every tv program they can access, slamming them repeatedly for
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:08 PM
Mar 2015

endangering the National Security of this country, while supporting the dangerous war mongering of a Foreign Leader, who is looking to force OUR troops into a war that will in no way benefit the US.

A message should be sent to Israel, before the election, that if Bibi wants a war with Iran, he has an army he can use. But he doesn't get to use our military to do it for him.

And never let it be forgotten, that Bibi, after 9/11 when asked what he thought said: 'It's good for Israel'. This is not someone ANY elected official should be looking to for guidance on what is best for this country.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. Then Dems should start jumping up and down DEMANDING equal time, accusing the networks of
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:21 PM
Mar 2015

bias, iow act the same way Republicans do when they don't get their way.

We sure haven't gotten anywhere by being 'nice'.

It's way past time to treat them like the temper tamper throwing children they are.

Too much deference has been afforded these Koch funded imbeciles who appear not to know which country's Constitution they too an oath to defend and protect.

Take the gloves off and the good part is, we don't have to make stuff up. They have HANDED us the weapons needed to remove them from office.

Dems just don't use those weapons. Use them, pick them up and use their own weapons against them.

Freely use the words 'unpatriotic' and 'consorting with foreign terrorists', and 'undermining this country's National Security.

And 'WEAK' is another word that should be used to describe them, 'CHILDISH temper tantrums damaging to this country for their own petty reasons.

Don't let the Media puppets control the conversation, interrupt them the minute their talking points begin to emerge in the form of 'quesions'. Expose that tactic by highlighting it 'Who wrote those talking points for you'? etc etc.

It really is war at this point. And you don't win wars by being nice to the enemy.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
36. If elected Dems don't start fighting back, even with all the ammo we have against them, then we
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:41 PM
Mar 2015

are going to truly go down the tubes. We need to call them out on the carpet at every opportunity and start showing open contempt for their treason and idiocy. As you say, take the gloves off.

NBachers

(17,122 posts)
111. Imagine the aides all day having to delete emails they never even open.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:39 AM
Mar 2015

At least a fax is a physical item that has a better chance of being read.

Please share your Great Idea for communicating with Senators and their staff.

I can't wait to be impressed with it's brilliance.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
113. I think if you say America's attempt to reach a nuclear agreement
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 09:48 AM
Mar 2015

instead of 'Obama's attempt to reach a nuclear agreement" we could be more effective in winning support.

NBachers

(17,122 posts)
128. Yes, I agree- this was composed & sent late late at night, with little sleep the night before.
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 08:20 PM
Mar 2015

I just had to get something off- but you're right, that would be a much better way to phrase things.

I could've waited 'till the next day to make some revisions, but I just had to get it off while my guts were boiling.

They still are.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
53. This is one of those times when I wish I could recommend an individual post.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:21 PM
Mar 2015

YES THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE DEMS SHOULD DO!!!!

Brava, sabrina 1!!!!!!

Storm the freakin' Bastille!!! Every damn Dem on the Hill should assign at least one staffer to ring up ALL the TV talk shows. ALL the radio talk shows. ALL the Sunday TV shows. ALL the local news shows. ALL the newspapers. Demand bookings. Speak UP, Dammit!!! They need to insist their way on if they have to!

 

LeftOfWest

(482 posts)
104. THIS!!
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 03:56 AM
Mar 2015

thanks sabrina.

please post this every day and often





Did I mention post this every day and often.


Thanks.


Thank you.





kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
56. Right on, keep up the pressure
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:26 PM
Mar 2015

don't let this fade away. By the way I hope the are already preparing ads for the upcoming campaigns.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
92. Hell yea! Remember when Republican's were up in arms when we criticized the Shrub for
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:10 PM
Mar 2015

Iraq? Politics should end at the shores stuff! This is much worse than anything that may have gotten wet during W's administration, those were comments to reporters about W's wrong-headed crap! This is something altogether different and much worse. They have invaded the purview of the President in Foriegn policy, completely disrespected the office of the President, and embarssed our country, all for red meat for their insatiable base and to get the black man!

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
99. Yes, they should. Enough people will "get it"...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:27 PM
Mar 2015

... if Democrats would just saturate the airwaves with their message. ANY message. Even though the usual Rushpects will denounce them as "libruls" on talk radio -- but they're just preaching to their own choir anyway. I'm talking about getting message and policy ideas and progressive visions out in front of enough viewers/listeners of the Sunday shows and other news programs.

================

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
116. Yes but will the spineless have a spine even when it isn't needed?
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 11:23 AM
Mar 2015

So far it looks like news outlets have more spine.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
4. This excerpt nails it as well...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:19 PM
Mar 2015

"It is not an understatement to suggest that the outrage over the Senate Republican letter is national. In this time of great partisan divide, Republicans managed to unify the country with an act that was as blatantly unpatriotic as it was blindingly stupid. The tea partiers who turned the House of Representatives into a three ring circus have invaded the Senate, and the letter to Iran is their most high profile bit of handiwork.

Republicans are desperately trying to convert Hillary Clinton’s emails into a 2016 campaign story, but the irony is that with their Iran letter, the Senate GOP might have just handed Democrats a powerful issue that could put an end to their fragile Senate majority."

Backlash from their Netanyahu invite + backlash from their perfidious actions in writing/signing the letter, might this finally 'the straw that broke the camel's back'? It could be.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
72. Great post.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:22 PM
Mar 2015
Republicans managed to unify the country with an act that was as blatantly unpatriotic as it was blindingly stupid.

might this finally 'the straw that broke the camel's back'?


One could only hope.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
77. I am loving they are getting hammered by their own...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:33 PM
Mar 2015

it gives me hope, even staunch republicans recognize disloyalty to one's country in what the scumbags did.

With today pathetic response, 'It was a joke', they know they screwed up big time, imo.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
83. Republican aides, trying to cover for their bosses...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:50 PM
Mar 2015

"Republican aides were taken aback by the response to what what they thought was a lighthearted attempt to signal to Iran and the public that Congress should have a role in the ongoing nuclear discussions. Two GOP aides separately described their letter as a “cheeky” reminder of the congressional branch’s prerogatives."

“The administration has no sense of humor when it comes to how weakly they have been handling these negotiations,” said a top GOP Senate aide."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/10/republicans-admit-that-iran-letter-was-a-dumb-idea.html

Talk about doubling down on stupidity!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
86. Oh. My. GOD I am screaming!!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:53 PM
Mar 2015
“The administration has no sense of humor when it comes to how weakly they have been handling these negotiations,” said a top GOP Senate aide."




The ONLY thing I want to come out of this now is the immediate termination of these aides and even better, the mouth breathing morons that they work for. This is absolutely UNREAL.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
91. They are not only shooting themselves in the foot, they are in serious danger...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 08:09 PM
Mar 2015

of committing political suicide or to put it more deliciously, following each other "into the political woodchipper" (loved this, lol)

The woodchipper comment was in this editorial by the New Jersey Star Ledger, the whole thing is worth a read, imo:

GOP's political posturing on Iran could ostracize the U.S. | Editorial

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/03/for_this_senate_iran_is_a_partisan_playground_edit.html

blm

(113,065 posts)
76. Too bad BROADCAST MEDIA is dug in to protect the GOP Traitor Tots.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:31 PM
Mar 2015

This editorial deserves widespread attention.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
80. Fewer and fewer of the public are even watching broadcast or cable news...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:40 PM
Mar 2015

with so many options available now in the social media, the attempts to ignore this by either of the traditional media become obvious and lack the influence they once did, imo.

The word is getting out and it's not looking pretty for Tehran Tom and his drooling sycophants.

To get this editorial widespread attention which, as you stated, is deserved, social media is the way to go these days, imo.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
88. LOL, me too!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:56 PM
Mar 2015

The word is being spread like wildfire on twitter, facebook and other social media options. It is becoming increasingly more difficult for right wing media to succeed in treating the public like mushrooms and feeding us shit.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. To make sure voters do not forget, Democrats have to take a lesson out of the Republican playbook.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:35 PM
Mar 2015

Turn this into 'Bengazi'.

Every chance they get they should express outrage, justifiable btw, unlike the faux outrage from the other side, that any elected US Senator would conspire against their own nation, threaten its National Security, with a Foreign Leader for the purpose of fulfilling THAT leader's desire to USE OUR MILITARY to fight a War with Iran on behalf of THAT LEADER, is simply inconceivable.

Especially when they know their own President is working with five other nations, Germany, France, the UK, Russia and China to try to avoid what would be a devastating war for this and so many other nations.

Then keep asking 'WHAT were they thinking'? Who do they pledge their allegiance to? Did they READ their oaths of office?

And to have to have the Iranian FM explain our Constitution AND International law to 47 US Senators was truly damaging to this country's world image.

And just keep it up, as long as necessary. And add that this may require an investigation.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
33. Who do they pledge their allegiance to? They pledge allegiance first and foremost to
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:29 PM
Mar 2015

Grover Norquist!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Tax_Reform

For most it seems this is the only pledge they take seriously.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
14. More often than not, no, voters won't remember.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:40 PM
Mar 2015

The mushy middle will fall for which ever side has the catchiest commercial slogans.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
6. Y'know,
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:20 PM
Mar 2015

now I'm kinda glad they did it! The message to the Iranians is clear: the GOP is not to be taken seriously.

Laughingstocks.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
9. Even the hugely "liberal" USA Today
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:30 PM
Mar 2015

Editorial board:

<snip>

It's not every day that you see U.S. senators pressing leaders of a hostile power to help them kill off American-led negotiations aimed at removing a potential nuclear threat to the United States and its allies.

In fact, nothing quite like that had ever happened until Monday, when 47 Republican senators wrote a letter to the leaders of Iran warning that any agreement they reach with President Obama to curtail Iran's nuclear weapons program might be reversed by a future president.

The senators, led by freshman Tom Cotton of Arkansas, couched their letter as advice to Iran's leaders on the U.S. Constitution, but the need was dubious and the intent unmistakable. The senators don't like the shape of the deal they see emerging with Iran, they don't trust Obama, and they think they should get final say on any proposed deal. Never mind that the Constitution explicitly says otherwise, except for treaties, which are not under consideration.

Like House Republicans who broke with tradition last week by inviting a foreign leader, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to attack the negotiations from the House floor, the 47 senators appear not to have much use for the quaint notion that has led generations of politicians to avoid such provocations in the past: that whatever America's differences happen to be, the country's foreign policy needs to speak to the world with one voice.

... the letter comes across as a thoughtless and destructive stunt.

At a minimum, the senators have given Iran a way to reject the deal and escape blame.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/03/10/iran-47-republican-senators-president-obama-editorials-debates/24733603/

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
10. What else did we expect
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:31 PM
Mar 2015

The Republican Party's politics has been the politics of AM Radio Shock Jocks for over 2 decades now. They are forced to do what the brain-damaged hate talkers demand.

Why they still get elected is beyond my ability to comprehend.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
18. Are those GOP think tanks we've heard so much of in the past, coming up with these stunts,
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:41 PM
Mar 2015

or just dumb individuals going nuts because they believe they are in complete power?
Either way, it's pretty strange how stupid the GOP has been looking in the past 2 months.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
23. I've wondered that too - is Rove and Atwater still kickin?
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:49 PM
Mar 2015

I know Roger Ailsusall is still lurking. What was that guy's name from K Street that made all those dumb f^cks sign a fidelity pledge? Almost seems like a college frat pledge - do the dumbest thing you can think of....

In my heart-of-hearts, I hope that some dem operatives have wormed their way into the limited decision-making brains of the republican/priebus apparatus and are silently shoving levers from the right to the left (or down to up, whatever.)

Maybe all those young liberty university invaders of the government during the bushcroft years have slowly started to understand how the world really works. Maybe they are going to take over the republican party and make it back into THE PARTY OF LINCOLN.

ok - that was fun - back to my cave.

brush

(53,788 posts)
31. Grover Norquist is the twerp who had all the repugs sign a no-new-taxes pledge . . .
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:26 PM
Mar 2015

something he is on record saying he thought up when he was 12-years-old.

Just juvenile, and all the march-in-lockstep repug party foolishly went along and pledged loyalty to the thought processes of a 12-year-old boy.

Signing this open letter written (allegedly by a freshman senator but who probably had it handed to him by ALEC) is just as juvenile as Norquist's pledge but much more dangerous.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
21. From the Des Moines Register...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:47 PM
Mar 2015


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/readers/2015/03/11/senators-iran-letter-domestic-affairs/24746969/


Letter to the editor:

We didn’t elect Grassley and Ernst to go to Washington and attempt to undermine the President on foreign policy, let alone show him this level of disrespect. We elected them to fix the tax code they complain about, and to fund the VA and other programs that benefit Americans. They should stop complaining and start doing their job.



http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/readers/2015/03/11/republicans-letter-iran-quite-week/24746805/

It has been quite a week for the Republicans
Jos G. Linn, West Des Moines, Letter to the Editor 12:03 a.m. CDT March 11, 2015

What a week it has been for the Republican Party. In the last seven days they invited a foreign leader to address Congress in open opposition to their own government, they stubbornly refused to fund the security agencies of the United States until the last possible moment, they asked the Supreme Court to take health insurance away from 7 million Americans, their congressional leaders refused to participate in the 50th Anniversary of one of the most pivotal moments in the Civil Rights Movement, and they wrote directly to a foreign power (Iran) urging it to ignore the diplomatic efforts of the duly-elected President of the United States. And for what purpose? Political one-upsmanship. It's official — the party of Abraham Lincoln is dead. It is now firmly the party of Richard Nixon, a party with leaders so paranoid and obsessed with power that they will sell out their own country to win the next election. God help us if they win.


Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
52. Wow. Fighting back against the fascists...about time...of course the corporate media will not.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:19 PM
Mar 2015

Unfortunately public policy for Republicans is still being decided by a few thousand Fox News cult members in Iowa who will gather in small groups to nominate one of two voter choices for the person who gets to command 5000 nuclear warheads.

El Shaman

(583 posts)
98. Abraham Lincoln, made me recall this:
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 11:15 PM
Mar 2015

“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

~Abraham Lincoln

sorechasm

(631 posts)
105. Tricky Dick's Party for nearly 50 years...
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 07:33 AM
Mar 2015

All of the GOP policy makers spawned from Dick Nixon's cabinet: Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld. His legacy will never die.

kairos12

(12,862 posts)
22. I like it. But, it won't matter because their teabag constituents don't read unless it's a misspelled
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 03:47 PM
Mar 2015

placard.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
28. good!!!!!!!!!!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:10 PM
Mar 2015

Yes yes YES!!!!!!!


Inform the populace.

To use an historical reference that teapukes are fond of (sadly, they misappropriate in the present day):

Paul Revere.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
30. Citizens can get busy too...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:24 PM
Mar 2015

... a little lady called in to Thom Hartmann today and said she called into the switchboard and left a message for each and every one of those Senators. Said she spoke with about half of the offices and left messages on the rest. That's what she accomplished in one phone call to the switchboard.

Does anyone know how many signatures there are now on the petition? Last I heard earlier this am was 125,000.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
35. Just saw over 136K
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:40 PM
Mar 2015

I sent letters to Grassley and Ernst and requested they be made part of the record.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
39. Absolutely...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:50 PM
Mar 2015

... those are the magic words, even if called in: "Please add my words to the official record. Thank you!"

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
40. Almost 166k. Unfortunately, a second petition
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:52 PM
Mar 2015

Appears to be up that could muddle the total count if people sign both.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
37. The current Republican party is the greatest threat.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:42 PM
Mar 2015

They are the instrument for the vile, putrid, blood drinking, theocratic tyrants.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
57. Outstanding two sentences..You have said it all..
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:28 PM
Mar 2015
"They are the instrument for the vile, putrid, blood drinking, theocratic tyrants"

As all tyrants do, they will destroy anything, anybody, anywhere, for their power and their goals..

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
42. What?!?
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 04:58 PM
Mar 2015

Our press has suddenly developed a conscience?!!? We can anticipate a return to factual journalism?!?

Forgive me if I'm not holding my breath...

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
49. I think the repukian turd maggots want Civil War # 2
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:11 PM
Mar 2015

wish I didn't think this but it looks like things are boiling over .

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
50. The funny thing is the letter's contents were so juvenile that everyone in Iran is still laughing!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:14 PM
Mar 2015

It actually IS a joke in Iran! Their Harvard and MIT educated negotiators have been negotiating over a year having been fully versed in internstional law and the powers of the heads of America, China, Russia, Germany and Britain and the UN. How could they have gotten it so wrong!

The Letter of Shame proves how wrong they all were! Or was it a joke? Those GOP clowns, you just never know with them.

Now sending up a trial balloon to escape the huge and deserved backlash even now building...to now say "the letter was just a joke - look at Iran, they think it is a joke" is not going to win the day.

Baltimore Sun was the most astute....this is also to help Bibi in Israeli elections....shameful.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
51. Hey MSNBC!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:16 PM
Mar 2015

If you spend even ONE minute on the emails I am done with you forever!

Even you Rachel!

Don't do it!

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
55. The story is being escalated, in the media and Of course here at DU
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:25 PM
Mar 2015

Some bullshit story about independent reviews of her server, probably not true.

LOOK, some VERY powerful people do NOT want her as president.

These VERY powerful people have a great deal of DESTRUCTION to do to you and me, they will NOT be stopped.

They have people working for them all over the internet, as well.., including here at DU

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
119. I'm involved with two of those very powerful organizations
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:02 PM
Mar 2015

Two progressive groups, Democracy For America and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. One of their goals has been to recruit liberal candidates for House and Senate races. Just recently one of their hopeful candidates, Donna Edwards, threw her hat in the ring for Maryland's soon to be vacant Senate seat. Van Hollen thought the seat was his but now has a primary to face with a more liberal candidate.

So far, these groups have been focused on House and Senate races. I'm sure when the Democratic presidential primary kicks in to full gear, they won't be backing a conservative candidate like Hillary. Odd that you think a change from status quo is being destructive.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
122. If someone more liberal than Hillary gets the nomination, then I am all for it
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:10 PM
Mar 2015

1000%...Will work my tail off for them, will work for Bernie if he ever announces, I have already donated money to one of his websites which was probably a mistake.

But



If Hillary ends up as the nomination, then it is FULL on support for Hillary, as if she is the 2nd coming...Not because she is or is even close, but because the alternative is beyond unthinkable.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
102. until this past week
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 01:56 AM
Mar 2015

i had my tv programmed to rachel & lawrence. but that ended on monday. lawrence has gone off his rocker.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
54. All foreign leaders should put these 47 on "no fly" lists into their countries.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:23 PM
Mar 2015

None of these traitors should be allowed to travel to foreign allies, not forbidden by USA but by the foreign nations.

These traitors are trying to harm them just as much as USA.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
61. Just called my Teabag Senate slitherer, Ron Johnson.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:33 PM
Mar 2015

Expressed my displeasure at my displeasure at his signing of a seditious document. Brought up the point that my violating the law has consequences, his violations should as well.
Expressed my desire to see him charged under the Logan Act.
Asked to be recording into the record.




Now, jack shit will happen.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
64. Blowback can be a bitch, idiots. Ha! That photo at the link is a prize!
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 05:55 PM
Mar 2015

Ted Cruz and the Turtle with their best faces forward....

mnhtnbb

(31,392 posts)
65. 22? Is that all? Where's the rest of the newspapers? That letter was an outrageous
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 06:01 PM
Mar 2015

act of sabotage signed by 47 traitors unworthy of their office.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
69. only 22 huh?
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 06:40 PM
Mar 2015

we have more states than that.
but everyone's hammering that hillary email thing.
christ. makes me crazy!

Cha

(297,322 posts)
73. Yes, there should be more.. Glad the Concord Monitor "took Ayotte to task" though.. among all the
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 07:23 PM
Mar 2015

others.

"The Concord Monitor in New Hampshire took Sen. Kelly Ayotte to task for signing the letter, “Ayotte and the rest of the gang of 47 would like nothing more than for the American people to view the letter as a necessary defense against misguided negotiations and flawed policies, a comeuppance for an arrogant commander in chief who flaunts his contempt for the Constitution. They want you to know, America, that they wrote the letter for you because Obama must be stopped. In reality, they are playing a political game dangerously out of bounds.”

Stupid tool.

Thank you, babylonsistah

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
97. I Called Marco Rubio's Office... BUT His Office Only Took Messages...
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 10:17 PM
Mar 2015

I left a nice one (sure) but I also called Bill Nelson asking him to DO SOMETHING to make the Democrats voices heard. Nelson isn't exactly my type of Democrat, but hey I live in Florida!

I DID have to tell Rubio that he really needs to UNDERSTAND issues before he opens his mouth to speak! What a doofus!

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
125. Shennigans
Thu Mar 12, 2015, 02:42 PM
Mar 2015

Its about time don't you think to expose the republicans for what they are, they do not and I repeat do not like this country, they attack everything to which to make this county better, good education, healthcare, wages, environment, trade, water, air, national parks,, roads, bridges, you name it, and they support a person that has broken the law, and his name is Cliven Bundy, he is dangerous, at least we know what the Iranians are upset about its called the 1953 coup by the CIA.
And just maybe the media will finally say and do something and keep the pressure on these jerks, they are attacking a sitting president that has the authority to make treaties, the republican will then come after them

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