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raccoon

(31,119 posts)
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:27 AM May 2012

What do you think would happen if somebody wanted to pipe water from the Great Lakes


to Las Vegas (or some other place that wasn't in one of the The Great Lakes Basin Compact

states (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin)?


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DCKit

(18,541 posts)
1. The Great Lakes states and Canadian provinces forged an agreement...
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:34 AM
May 2012

several years ago prohibiting that.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
2. Many corporations want to, which is why the states and provinces have made several agreements
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:36 AM
May 2012

protecting that water. It's an ongoing battle, though.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
4. PRIVATIZE THE LAKES!
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:46 AM
May 2012

Sell the water for maximum profit. Coca Cola and Pepsi should be able to market the water as "HURON"...though "ERIE" might not do well with focus groups.

Only part sarcastic...this is going to happen, folks. That is too much fresh water just sitting there. Water is the new oil. The new gold. I guarantee some douche bag Republican money-scammer already is working on plans. They're just waiting for the right people to get so desperate that privatizing Great Lakes water distribution will seem like a good thing. As long as enough people make enough money from it.

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raccoon

(31,119 posts)
6. I have a suggestion for the Great Lakes states and provinces in that event:
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:58 AM
May 2012

Secede.

But I agree, some sleaze bags will be after that water.



trotsky

(49,533 posts)
10. I share your fears and suspicions.
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:14 AM
May 2012

I agree that someone has already figured out how this will work. I mean, it's just like oil, right? You go get it where it is and then distribute it where it's wanted.

But it's even better than oil because people have no choice - they NEED water. Captive market who will have no choice but to pay whatever you want to charge them.

Scary.

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
5. There are some exceptions....
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:58 AM
May 2012

Waukesha is a town just over the divide 18 miles from lake Michigan...due to a long history of open pit rock quarries in an around Waukesha, the well water used for the city is contaminated with Radium.

I believe an exceptions was granted for communities within x number of miles who have no other source of contaminant free water.

The key is that the treated water will be returned back over the divide and to the lake. It is expensive (so expensive I think Waukesha Republican voters decided not to pay for it...)

[link:http://www.wuwm.com/news/wuwm_news.php?articleid=6015|

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
11. An interesting example of cost shifting and corporate welfare!
Wed May 2, 2012, 02:06 PM
May 2012

Open pit rock quarries spoiled the subterranean water, so the water supplied to the communities is now much more expensive than it was.

One would think it reasonable that if some companies spoiled subterranean water in an area, those companies would be required to supply clean water to the communities at the prices the community paid before the water was spoiled. It appears that prior cost to the community was the one time cost of drilling a well. But if your excerpt is true and correct, government failed to protect the communities from water-cost increases.

The companies doing the natural gas fracking are also spoiling subterranean water, now, if we are to believe what we read. Can we presume that costs for clean water are going to go up for people in the affected communities? Can government offer any real solutions to the people who used water from wells prior to the fracking, and somehow hedge those communities against any consumer-level price increases for however long it takes nature to clean up the fracking contaminants?

 

lacrew

(283 posts)
7. I don't know about the Great Lakes
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:59 AM
May 2012

But Indian tribes in the Dakotas have rights to much more water than they will ever need....and some envision a time in the future, where this water is piped to the southwest.

Swede

(33,282 posts)
8. I've heard of plans of tapping into the rivers in BC before they flow into the Pacific.
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:11 AM
May 2012

Not sure what to make of that.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
9. Years ago, a Los Angeles city or county official (forget) announced plans
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:13 AM
May 2012

to pipe water from the Snake River to the LA basin. His plan was summarily flushed.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
12. "What do you think would happen"
Wed May 2, 2012, 02:11 PM
May 2012

I think the one per-centers would build moe swimming pools and golf courses!

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