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Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 08:51 AM Mar 2015

Pi Day 2015: meet the man who invented Pi

Another brilliant Welshman



In 1706, William Jones – a self-taught mathematician and one of Anglesey’s most famous sons – published his seminal work, Synopsis palmariorum matheseos, roughly translated as A summary of achievements in mathematics.

It is a work of great historical interest because it is where the symbol π appears for the first time in scientific literature to denote the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter.

Jones realised that the decimal 3.141592 … never ends and that it cannot be expressed precisely. “The exact proportion between the diameter and the circumference can never be expressed in numbers,” he wrote. That was why he recognised that it needed its own symbol to represent it.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/2015/mar/14/pi-day-2015-william-jones-the-welshman-who-invented-pi?CMP=fb_gu

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Pi Day 2015: meet the man who invented Pi (Original Post) Siwsan Mar 2015 OP
I reject pi Telcontar Mar 2015 #1
I'm a mathematical moron - I think pi is just an abbreviation for Pie Siwsan Mar 2015 #2
Ain't gonna happen. bvf Mar 2015 #3
Pfft, only a drunk Welshman would think the ratio between diameter and circumference is relevant Telcontar Mar 2015 #4
I do agree that bvf Mar 2015 #7
In physics, pi almost universally appears as 2*pi in formulas. longship Mar 2015 #6
We seem to be on the same wavelength. n/t. bvf Mar 2015 #8
That doesn't happen with great frequency here. n/t. metalbot Mar 2015 #9
That would be lambda, not tau. longship Mar 2015 #10
Point taken! bvf Mar 2015 #11
Pie are squared is pretty. hunter Mar 2015 #15
That's an irrational response. Gormy Cuss Mar 2015 #20
HAPPY PI DAY! etherealtruth Mar 2015 #5
'Another brilliant Welshman'... Cirque du So-What Mar 2015 #12
Anthony Hopkins n/t Cyrano Mar 2015 #14
My father, my grandfather, my great grandfather........ Siwsan Mar 2015 #16
T'was merely a joke Cirque du So-What Mar 2015 #24
So, I can stop working on my extensive list?? Siwsan Mar 2015 #25
No, you can keep working on it Cirque du So-What Mar 2015 #27
Buncha drunks, the lot of them Telcontar Mar 2015 #17
the fantastic thing about it PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #13
So someone pls explain what pi day means to us non-mathematicians brush Mar 2015 #18
No.... EX500rider Mar 2015 #19
Thanks. There's so much talk about it but no explanation. nt brush Mar 2015 #21
He didn't invent pi, he was just the first to use the Greek letter pi to represent the number. DesMoinesDem Mar 2015 #22
Ah, quit nit picking (haha) Siwsan Mar 2015 #23
I thought Pi was a kid from India...... Capt.Rocky300 Mar 2015 #26
 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
4. Pfft, only a drunk Welshman would think the ratio between diameter and circumference is relevant
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:19 AM
Mar 2015

Obviously the ratio between radius and circumference is the only true one.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
7. I do agree that
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:36 AM
Mar 2015

since the radius is sufficient to specify a circle, tau does make more sense, but pi is too ingrained in the culture of mathematics to give way anytime soon, IMHO.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. In physics, pi almost universally appears as 2*pi in formulas.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:32 AM
Mar 2015

That's because when distance is considered, it is universally a radius.

I have sympathy for the tau argument, but I think that pi is so engrained in the culture that it will likely remain.


hunter

(38,317 posts)
15. Pie are squared is pretty.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:26 AM
Mar 2015

Half tau are squared? That do'n't make sense.

Be that as it may, I'm looking forward to the book by Gareth Roberts, as mentioned in the "footnote" of the guardian article.

Cirque du So-What

(25,941 posts)
27. No, you can keep working on it
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 07:29 PM
Mar 2015

It never hurts to elevate the Welsh profile in this country. Next - the Cornish!

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
13. the fantastic thing about it
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:20 AM
Mar 2015

Is that it is always happening somewhere on the circumference of the globe for a full revolution about it's axis.

brush

(53,785 posts)
18. So someone pls explain what pi day means to us non-mathematicians
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:22 PM
Mar 2015

Is it some kind of time correction or something?

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
19. No....
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:38 PM
Mar 2015

At one point today the numbers on the calender and clock will add up to Pi

3.141592653 Only happens every hundred years......3/14/15 at 9AM and 26 min.s and 53 seconds.

 

DesMoinesDem

(1,569 posts)
22. He didn't invent pi, he was just the first to use the Greek letter pi to represent the number.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:57 PM
Mar 2015

Before that people sometimes used other letters to represent 3.1415. I'm sure he was brilliant, but using a Greek letter instead of a different letter to represent a number isn't the reason.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
26. I thought Pi was a kid from India......
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 02:49 PM
Mar 2015

who went for a boat ride with a tiger. This is getting confusing.

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