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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,034 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:26 PM Mar 2015

Bill Maher: GOP totally supports ‘free money’ and government handouts — for the rich

On Friday’s edition of Real Time, host Bill Maher slammed Republicans for their double standard when it comes to work, money, self-sufficiency and personal responsibility.

“Someone has to explain to me why Republicans believe that not working and getting free money — you know, like the ‘takers’ — is the worst most corrupting thing that could ever happen to a person, except if you’re rich,” said Maher.

“The very first thing our new Republican Congress tried to do was get rid of any tax on inherited wealth, which they call the death tax, although really, what better time is there to pay a tax than when you’re dead?” he went on.

“Yeah, we used to understand that and the estate tax used to be pretty high, but then President George W. Bush came along and worked tirelessly to make sure that rich, idle trust fund brats got every penny that was coming to them,” Maher said.

“I wonder where he got the idea to reward dumb asses who leach off their dad’s success,” he quipped.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/bill-maher-gop-totally-supports-free-money-and-government-handouts-for-the-rich/comments/#disqus

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Bill Maher: GOP totally supports ‘free money’ and government handouts — for the rich (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 OP
when you have wealthy people WDIM Mar 2015 #1
PREACH! JaneyVee Mar 2015 #2
The problem is how. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #5
That is the problem. WDIM Mar 2015 #9
We must get control of media to counter the propaganda of the Corporatists. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #11
I likey. PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #6
The government gives corporations millions in subsidies Iliyah Mar 2015 #3
We MUST reclaim "wealth redistribution" from the GOP Lexicon of trigger words... Moostache Mar 2015 #4
This is why I am having trouble having sympathy for the current Vanuatu victims Jim Beard Mar 2015 #7
Who are the victims? JonLP24 Mar 2015 #8
thats a great example of where the people need to WDIM Mar 2015 #10

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
1. when you have wealthy people
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:58 PM
Mar 2015

Backed by multinational corporations making all the rules who do you think is going to benefit most.

It has been a rightwing lead redistribution of wealth to the top since Reagan. We on the left need to be demanding equal protection under the laws wealthy people and businesses should not get special tax breaks just because they are wealthy.

Income is income it doesnt matter if its capital gains or earned. Infact capital gains should be taxed higher than earned income because nobody worked for that. Real wealth in this country is created by the interest rate not by hard work. Their wealth is fictional money creating money out of thin air. Hard work actually produces some thing or provides a service. Yet the wealthy get a tax break on their fictional money while the hard worker barely gets by.

When did we ever decide it was okay to take more than we give? To consume more than we create? To work our lives away to pay somebody else for the basic essentials while the people we are paying are exploiting our needs for their own personal gain?

When did we decide it was okay that some have so much while some others have so little?

Most of us work our lives away for the most basic of needs like food shelter clothes water. And yes we do get some luxuries like electricity and internet.

We need to deconstruct our constructs. We need to reexamine every aspect of human life and we need to make the playing field fair and allow every soul to pursue their dreams and find their purpose and do away with constructs that are meant to keep people down but instead allow our souls to be free with a mutual respect and understanding that we all are equals and we all are one.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
9. That is the problem.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:41 AM
Mar 2015

The left needs to keep educating people about income inequality. About how the system of debt and interest is smoothering the middle class.

About how these multi-millionaires get all this money basically tax free or at a discounted tax rate just because they are wealthy.

And we need to push the labor laws. Our idea of labor needs to be completely reconstructed. Your job shouldnt be the main focus of your life. We need to give labor more freedom and more choice and more pay and more say.

The theories are vast about how we can improve society for all. We have been playing this trickle down run up debt experiment for so long and it is a failure it failed in 2008 but the republicans kept it alive so it may take another crash before we truly see some movement.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. We must get control of media to counter the propaganda of the Corporatists.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 01:06 PM
Mar 2015

We must get control of our election systems. If we don't control these, we can't dig our way out.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. The government gives corporations millions in subsidies
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 08:04 PM
Mar 2015

American people need subsidies to get healthcare and the GOPers hate that and want to kill anything Obamacare.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
4. We MUST reclaim "wealth redistribution" from the GOP Lexicon of trigger words...
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 08:41 PM
Mar 2015

Hereditary wealth is what they want, as they support the current oligarchy, and its quest to become the new aristocracy. As bad as the Shrub is and has been, at the very least he was a FAILED businessman before he went into the family business of politics. He was an immeasurable tool, but he was in the real world unlike the Hilton brats and that waste of oxygen Jenner-Kardashian idiocracy. Those jackasses are famous because of the vagina they fell out of and nothing more. It is pathetic.

Fuck them all.

Every single person living a life that they had nothing to do with building is a worthless parasite on the boil of the ass of humanity - this does not extend beyond trust fund babies and their ilk though... the people who end up on government assistance while unemployed or disabled should NEVER be compared to the truly worthless heirs and heiresses of the Oligrachs. Those maggots need to be held up as scions of the GOP and shown to the world for what they are at every turn - sociopathic morons who should be sterilized to keep them out of the gene pool and taxed into poverty to teach them the value of "bootstraps".

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
7. This is why I am having trouble having sympathy for the current Vanuatu victims
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:00 PM
Mar 2015

of Cyclone Pam. Vanuatu is a TAX HAVEN for the rich....

Why should we pay for its reconstruction with our money?

Vanuatu is a group of appriximatley eighty three (83) islands situated in the South Pacific Ocean. The island nation has a population of about 200,000 people. The official languages spoken in Vanuatu are English and French. The island nation of Vanuatu is an important offshore financial centre which began in 1971. The offshore financial center of Vanuatu provides the following offshore services to clients from around the globe; the incorporation of offshore companies, Vanuatu trust management, offshore banking, the registrations of ships and vessels and electronic gaming. Vanuatu has also grown popular as a tax haven.


Vanuatu can be considered to be one of the tax havens of the world as it provides its clients with tax incentives. Among other factors which make the offshore jurisdiction of Vanuatu a tax haven is the fact that it has banking secrecy laws in place and also provides privacy and confidentiality for its clients.

http://www.taxhavens.biz/other_tax_havens/tax_haven_vanuatu/

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. Who are the victims?
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:24 PM
Mar 2015

I never heard of the country before your post. My quick overview understanding is they're very tiny with not much to build an economy economy. Tourism is a big one, it seems their tax laws are motivated to attract businesses & therefore jobs but I see a population that is very divided. Monopolies control the country so something like electricity is very expensive but financial services makes up most of its economy. Agriculture is a distanced 2nd.

The government appears to be very very divided but aside from language each other speaks, I'm not sure what else is the divide is over

Besides national authorities and figures, Vanuatu also has high-placed people at the village level. Chiefs were and are still the leading figures on village level. It has been reported that even politicians need to oblige them.[26] One becomes such a figure by holding a number of lavish feasts (each feast allowing them a higher ceremonial grade) or alternatively through inheritance (the latter only in Polynesian-influenced villages). In northern Vanuatu, feasts are graded through the nimangki-system.

Government and society in Vanuatu tend to divide along linguistic French and English lines. Forming coalition governments, however, has proved problematic at times due to differences between English and French speakers. Francophone politicians like those of the Union of Moderate Parties tend to be conservative and support neo-liberal policies, as well as closer relations with France and the West. The anglophone Vanua'aku Pati identifies as socialist and anti-colonial.

The Supreme Court consists of a chief justice and up to three other judges. Two or more members of this court may constitute a Court of Appeal. Magistrate courts handle most routine legal matters. The legal system is based on British common law and French civil law. The constitution also provides for the establishment of village or island courts presided over by chiefs to deal with questions of customary law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanuatu

Off-shoring was inherited from independence and for whatever reason, they have continued it. There is isn't much that is offensive to me, I don't care what tax laws or other similar laws countries choose to have for themselves. There article mentions 1971, they gained Independence following the 1980 "Coconut War" which was very brief. I don't hold it against them, I imagine it is very risky to change the status quo of the economy.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
10. thats a great example of where the people need to
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:46 AM
Mar 2015

Nationalize the banking system and implement a tax to rebuild their country.

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