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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn the city of Ferguson, nearly everyone is a wanted criminal.
That may seem like hyperbole, but it is a literal fact. In Ferguson -- a city with a population of 21,000 -- 16,000 people have outstanding arrest warrants, meaning that they are currently actively wanted by the police. In other words, if you were to take four people at random, the Ferguson police would consider three of them fugitives.
That statistic should be truly shocking. Yet in the wake of the Department of Justice's withering report on the city's policing practices, it has gone almost entirely unmentioned. News reports and analysis have focused on the racism discovered in departmental emails, and the gangsterish financial "shakedown" methods deployed against African Americans. In doing so, they have missed the full picture of Ferguson's operation, which reveals a totalizing police regime beyond any of Kafka's ghastliest nightmares.
The Department of Justice's 102-page report is a rich source of damning facts about the Ferguson criminal justice system. But tucked halfway in and passed over quickly is a truly revelatory set of figures: the arrest warrant data for the Ferguson Municipal Court.
It turns out that nearly everyone in the city is wanted for something. Even internal police department communications found the number of arrest warrants to be "staggering". By December of 2014, "over 16,000 people had outstanding arrest warrants that had been issued by the court." The report makes clear that this refers to individual people, rather than cases (i.e. people with many cases are not being counted multiple times). However, if we do look at the number of cases, the portrait is even starker. In 2013, 32,975 offenses had associated warrants, so that there were 1.5 offenses for every city resident.
MORE:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-robinson/the-shocking-finding-from-the-doj-ferguson_b_6858388.html
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)to register and vote?
phil89
(1,043 posts)vote is a good thing.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)for things that most of us do with no consequences all the time. Just to get the money to pay for the city government.
What needs to be done is that an independent committee should review them and throw away all those based on piddly offenses. Get rid of all those except those that involve real crimes - robbery, murder, assault, etc.
This police force was not honest nor were they working for the good of the community so their work cannot be trusted. Starting over is the only way to settle this.
And as to your not being sure having wanted criminals is a good thing. How to you feel about the bush era war criminals still being able to vote?
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)you shouldn't be allowed to vote?
Because the majority of these warrants were issued for people who couldn't pay their fines for simple misdemeanors and traffic violations.
Get some reading under your belt about the situation, because your comment does not reflect well on your awareness of the actual situation in Ferguson, but indicates you may have an authoritarian mindset - the same mindset that caused this mess in the first place.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)to turn almost everyone who is African American into a "wanted criminal" so they can't vote.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)I imagine it would be handy for cops to be able to stop someone and legally be able to arrest most of them because 75% have an existing "outstanding warrant". I guess humans don't need strong walls and iron bars to operate a prison.
I really hope the people of Ferguson can find some healing, it will likely take some time.
questionseverything
(9,657 posts)these officials have criminally conspired for years against these people,,,why are they walking away with severance packages?
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)themselves in. That should crash the system.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)would show them!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,258 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Leave in place the ones for violence or grand theft, maybe, but I'm assuming almost all of them are for missed court dates, unpaid fines, etc.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)16,000 is a ridiculous amount, but I doubt they are all from Ferguson. Anyone can have outstanding warrants in Ferguson, regardless of where they live. It's more likely that those with outstanding warrants live outside the city, where FPD can't just show up at their door.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)with "destruction of official property" because he was so careless and irresponsible, he got blood on the uniforms of the four Ferguson police officers who beat him to a pulp?
You seem to be a huge apologist for Ferguson. I don't understand your attitude, but I find it very frightening. If these numbers aren't shocking to you, then I do also feel very sorry for you.
From the article:
To give some context as to how truly extreme this is, a comparison may be useful. In 2014, the Boston Municipal Court System, for a city of 645,000 people, issued about 2,300 criminal warrants. The Ferguson Municipal Court issued 9,000, for a population 1/30th the size of Boston's.
But, no big deal, right pintobean?
pintobean
(18,101 posts)And I'm certainly not apologizing for what Ferguson has done. I simply pointed out a flaw in the premiss in the OP. Yes, the numbers are shocking, but it wasn't just being done to their own residents. Municipalities in St. Louis County are more likely to give their own residents a break during a traffic stop; especially if that's how they get much of their revenue.
Anyone who lives anywhere near here knows this. You can drive for 10 minutes in the county and pass through two dozen munies. In some, even if you obey the laws, you can get pulled over and issued bogus tickets. Usually, the young are targeted. In some like Ferguson, blacks are targeted.
If you don't like my input, you can use ignore.
If you don't like my input, you can use ignore.
It's already been established that Ferguson issued approximately 3 warrants per FERGUSON HOUSEHOLD per year. These are statistics for the residents of Ferguson, not for out-of-towners.
If you have evidence to the contrary, please provide a link.
Your speculation - or wishful thinking - is useless here
pintobean
(18,101 posts)http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html
Not that it really matters where the victim is from. It doesn't really matter where any of the victims are from. I just found the premiss that they were all Ferguson residents to be ridiculous.
If you want to rely on the interpretations made on a student's blog, go ahead. I believe the people that I know who live in and around Ferguson, as well as my own experiences with other municipalities in St. Louis County.
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)blm
(113,082 posts)on a spreadsheet.
KG
(28,752 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)How many other towns are similarly afflicted, with PDs reigning over the citizens who can't ever seem to escape?
gordianot
(15,242 posts)Possibilities; Local Police State, Industrial Judicial Criminal Complex, etc. etc.
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)gordianot
(15,242 posts)Plenty more where that came from it is a shame that they had to kill an unarmed kid before it came to light. What that department did after they killed Michael Brown was organized and deliberate.
bonniebgood
(943 posts)racism found, all the false arrest and warrants should be null and void. Amnesty for 100% of Ferguson citizens period.
gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)gopiscrap
(23,763 posts)the entire police force, prosecutorial force and judiciary of this hell hole needs to go!
I bet a majority of them are non-violent offences too. Not only is it racial in nature, it's pure greed for the city government in pursuit of revenue. smh