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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:54 AM Mar 2015

Farm workers blocking main highway in Baja California Norte

Highway blocked at San Quintin this morning...

Farm laborers have blocked the federal highway through the San Quintin Valley in at least 5 different locations this morning, protesting over little pay, poor working conditions and abuse at the hands of the companies they work for. There have been some reports of minor violence and vandalism. It is strongly recommended that you avoid passing through until further notice.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=78097


Heh. It's the only real road down Baja. If you can't get through San Quintin/Lazaro Cardenas, you can't get down to Cabo San Lucas and La Paz. A large number of the workers in the area migrate to there from down in Oaxaca.

Good for them!
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Farm workers blocking main highway in Baja California Norte (Original Post) Zorra Mar 2015 OP
Since it worked so well for the last group of morons... Oktober Mar 2015 #1
Cuz all us uppity dark skinned people needs to lerns are place, ain't that right? Zorra Mar 2015 #2
You have deep issues if that is what you took from my post... Oktober Mar 2015 #3
Yeah, a black guy might get in trouble at work... hunter Mar 2015 #4
That is blatantly racist... Oktober Mar 2015 #7
Our society is blatantly racist. hunter Mar 2015 #8
Those are some amazing mental gymnastics... Oktober Mar 2015 #11
You don't think it's wrong that a black guy fears he'll lose his job... hunter Mar 2015 #12
You make no sense... Oktober Mar 2015 #13
You seem to think it's okay that this guy fears he might lose his job... hunter Mar 2015 #14
So it isn't the fault of the people causing the delay... Oktober Mar 2015 #15
What about all the daily traffic jams caused by ordinary commuters? hunter Mar 2015 #19
If someone intentionally went out and wrecked their car in the middle of the road... Oktober Mar 2015 #20
that was like 12 people lol, just drive 5mph right through them snooper2 Mar 2015 #5
Don't you think if that was an option they would have? Oktober Mar 2015 #6
I'm talking about provincial people of elitist dominant groups being completely ignorant of, Zorra Mar 2015 #21
No doubt, you have objective evidence supporting your allegation. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #9
You consider losing your job or blocking access for health workers personal inconvenience? Oktober Mar 2015 #10
Well, it succeeded in drawing attention to their cause. cyberswede Mar 2015 #16
Only simpletons think that all press is good press... Oktober Mar 2015 #17
This is hsardly an example of bad press. cyberswede Mar 2015 #18
 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
1. Since it worked so well for the last group of morons...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:51 AM
Mar 2015

... That blocked traffic and achieved nothing but solidifying opposition against them.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
2. Cuz all us uppity dark skinned people needs to lerns are place, ain't that right?
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:22 AM
Mar 2015




Consider the possibility that you're in the wrong forum.
 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
3. You have deep issues if that is what you took from my post...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:53 AM
Mar 2015

Seriously though, what the hell are you talking about?

All these road blockages do is put out the folks who can least afford it and turn them against whatever your pet cause may be.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
4. Yeah, a black guy might get in trouble at work...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:28 AM
Mar 2015

... but a white guy would probably say to his boss or client, "Hey, did you see me on television! Those crazy ass hippie protesters blocked the freeway!" without worrying for a single second he'd lose his job.

It's sophisticated propaganda how television news frames these situations. That's why I don't watch television news.

This privileged white propaganda machine got a two-for-one-deal in this video: an angry black guy and crazy hippies!

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
7. That is blatantly racist...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:46 PM
Mar 2015

... and frankly detached from anything resembling reality.

White folks can just walk into their hourly jobs whenever they please? What world do you live in?

hunter

(38,317 posts)
8. Our society is blatantly racist.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:11 PM
Mar 2015

It's an indisputable fact that white males are more likely to be treated fairly by their employers than anyone else.

Just because white males occasionally encounter unjust bosses doesn't mean that everyone else has equal rights.


 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
11. Those are some amazing mental gymnastics...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:33 PM
Mar 2015

Very impressive...

You managed to blame all of society while at the exact same time answering absolutely nothing...

Bravo..

hunter

(38,317 posts)
12. You don't think it's wrong that a black guy fears he'll lose his job...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:03 PM
Mar 2015

... because protesters blocked the freeway?

What's so important at Ross Clothing that they would punish this guy for something he had no control over, or that he feels he must defend his rotten employer for any inconvenience they suffer from freeway blockers?

Fuck Ross, and fuck the television news framing of the story.

U.S. American workers are the most gutless creatures in the world. Pretty soon now we'll all be working in prison like sweatshops, and fighting one another for the right to be their on time.

Don't be clueless. Don't let people use and abuse you. Certainly don't do the dirty work of fighting for crappy, racist employers.

The people blocking the roads in Mexico face the same situation as this guy working at Ross does. They are largely darker skinned indigenous Americans working for whiter, wealthy employers.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
13. You make no sense...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:09 PM
Mar 2015

Obviously I care about the guy who was stranded...

I'm the one who posted the video!

How dare that news agency show people exactly what happened!

hunter

(38,317 posts)
14. You seem to think it's okay that this guy fears he might lose his job...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:44 PM
Mar 2015

... for some rare and improbable occurrence that he had no control over.

The video is perfect propaganda, very typical of television news.

It's got an angry black guy, and hippies blocking the highway. That's what people remember.

And nobody remembers why the hippies were blocking the highway or even questions the sad situation the angry black guy is in.

I don't know if you've ever noticed, but Angry or Criminal Black Guy is a very common television news theme, almost daily in some places. There is a disproportionate representation of Angry or Criminal Black Guys in the news, just as there is a disproportionate number of black people in prison.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
15. So it isn't the fault of the people causing the delay...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:47 PM
Mar 2015

... it's the fault of the boss, who you just assume to be white, for having a problem with his employees not showing up on time.

Who exactly do you blame when the ambulance is late because they had to take side streets? Which broad societal group do you want to lay that one on?

hunter

(38,317 posts)
19. What about all the daily traffic jams caused by ordinary commuters?
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 03:01 PM
Mar 2015

What if they block an ambulance?

What about accidents that frequently block the highway?

Maybe we shouldn't let anyone use the highways but ambulances, fire trucks, and police.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
20. If someone intentionally went out and wrecked their car in the middle of the road...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 03:49 PM
Mar 2015

... just to hold up traffic, then they would also be an inconsiderate selfish asshole.

Accidents happen.. Their intent is what shows them to be selfish...

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
6. Don't you think if that was an option they would have?
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:44 PM
Mar 2015

You think that those hundreds or thousands of people all just felt like joining in solidarity with the morons up front?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
21. I'm talking about provincial people of elitist dominant groups being completely ignorant of,
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 05:52 PM
Mar 2015

and insensitive to, everything around them but their own rosy little universe, and then complaining about desperately poor and/or oppressed folks who are basically corporate slaves trying to make the world aware of their situation so that just maybe enough people will notice and help them

What in the fuck do you think those folks can do to help their situation?

Form a political action committee with their 50 peso per day salaries and bribe a politician to help them? Write stern leters to their congressmen?

Start an effective revolution against global multi-national corporate abuses of labor?

Pick themselves up by the bootstraps (if they could even afford boots) and become neoliberal entrepreneurs?

Do you have a clue, any clue at all, why *morons* like Cesar Chavez and Martin Luther King, and yes, even sometimes poor or concerned white folks too, have to organize people to block traffic?

What are you going to do for them to help their situation? At least now, maybe, hopefully, because of them blocking traffic, you are aware of it.

That's a clue. Run with it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. No doubt, you have objective evidence supporting your allegation.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:13 PM
Mar 2015

"achieved nothing but solidifying opposition against them...."

No doubt, you have objective evidence supporting your allegation; as other outlets have quite a different perspective than yours...

However, I do understand many people find personal convenient a much higher priority than equal rights and fair labor practices.

 

Oktober

(1,488 posts)
10. You consider losing your job or blocking access for health workers personal inconvenience?
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:32 PM
Mar 2015

Oh wait... It probably didn't affect you so it's ok if someone else had that problem...

As long as someone else pays right?

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