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NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:27 AM Mar 2015

If ANY Republican wins WH in 2016, say goodbye to SOCIAL SECURITY and MEDICARE

FACT

Now, what we can do together to prevent that, is what we need to talk about.

NO republican can be allowed in the WH...period

This is now a proven fact, there is NO debate over this, please.

The latest budget by the ridiculous little fucks proves it.

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samsingh

(17,599 posts)
2. so much worse than that - the climate, we'll have more wars
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:39 AM
Mar 2015

the supreme court will be stacked with more right wing nut job stooges

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
3. The frightening thing is that this seems to be what American voters want these days.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:43 AM
Mar 2015

I have no idea how Republicans get ANY votes at all, but they win all the elections.
Yeah, sure, there is gerrymandering and voter suppression, but the stupid ignorance of the American citizen is the greatest factor.
I have pretty much lost faith in the American Spirit.

I wish I was wrong.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
4. Propaganda works
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 11:47 AM
Mar 2015

And it needs to be fought against, constantly. Otherwise you get 2014, and 2010. It is not enough to say "we are the sane ones", evil must be named and called out.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
9. When our only campaign theme is "not as bad", we lose.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:20 PM
Mar 2015

In 2010 and 2014 we ran on "not as bad". We lost. Because "not as bad" doesn't get people to the polls.
In 2008 and 2012 we ran on an actual platform. We won.

Give left-leaning voters something to vote for, and they turn out. Give them something to vote against, and they will not.

If our platform in 2016 is "not as bad", we will lose. If we have an actual platform, we will do well.

I am concerned that the presumptive nominee and her surrogates have been putting forth a "not as bad" argument so far.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. I am guessing that we should elect a Democrat. A Democrat who wants to expand Social Security,
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:01 PM
Mar 2015

and Medicare, not work with the GOP to Chained CPI it, or work with Wall Street to privatize it. Any Dem candidate who is on that page, and is also against the TPP, is sure to get my vote!

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
15. That would suck. We better figure out how to be as inclusive as possible when we choose our
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:24 PM
Mar 2015

candidate. We can't afford to call anyone a "dirty hippie" or assume they "have nowhere else to go".

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. That would be nice, but....
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:27 PM
Mar 2015

ANY Democrat is gonna be better than ANY Republican.

That is CRUCIAL to remember when the generals come around.

Winning elections matters, even with an imperfect candidate.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
13. sounds awesome, and in case we dont get all that, we still take what we can get
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:03 PM
Mar 2015

by making sure the republican party can only visit the WH, not live there

edhopper

(33,584 posts)
11. The Democrats have a chance
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

of retaking the Senate, due to who is up for election.
But i think that would take a Dem winning the WH, (coat tail effect)

If a Repug wins the WH, and they keep the Senate, I think you are right.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
17. The GOP always threatens SS and Medicare, but in the end they never do anything.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:32 PM
Mar 2015

Why? Because old people vote more than anyone else and it's unlikely we'll vote to screw ourselves over.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
18. This GOP will do it, the teaparty HATES other people getting stuff, any stuff.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 02:33 PM
Mar 2015

These stupid motherfuckers who are NOT on Soc Sec or Medicare will destroy it, I am certain of that.

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