Azealia Banks really makes an ass of herself...

[Archae]

Talk about your brainwashed (in this case all it took was a light rinse,) idiot.

In this thread Banks makes it known in no uncertain terms she hates the US.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026376558

Seems she's also a Jesus freak.

BTW, I've heard her "music."
I've heard power saws in concrete that sounded better.

Azealia Banks: Atheism Makes No Sense Because God is Too Big to Understand

March 18, 2015 by Hemant Mehta 172 Comments

Hip-hop artist Azealia Banks (below), who is as well-known for her Twitter feuds as she is her music, is featured on the cover of the latest issue of Playboy. In the interview, she offers an… um… illuminating take on atheism:

I don’t understand how someone could be an atheist. Think about God as software, right? If you were to look at God’s face, your head would explode. Because your head is a calculator, and the amount of information that would be embedded in his face would fit only on a Google-size data center. Your head cannot handle that much information. Stop looking for God.

To translate: God makes no sense. God is too big to comprehend. Don’t look God directly in the eye. No one can understand the workings of God.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/03/18/azealia-banks-atheism-makes-no-sense-because-god-is-too-big-to-understand/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=friendlyatheist_031815UTC050309_daily&utm_content=&spMailingID=48254933&spUserID=MTE4MTY1MzAzMTE5S0&spJobID=642264606&spReportId=NjQyMjY0NjA2S0

[bravenak]

1. It's bash a black woman day! Part 2!!

Yay!!!
I'll chill while you all bash this black lady again. Out of the millions of conservative christians, lets single her out and bash her on another thread. No, it doesn't look strange when a bunch the 'majority' sit around bashing one black woman on thread after thread, singling her out. Nope. I mean, if there was anything strange about it, how come we have sooo many black people posting on DU everyday? Not weird at all.

[DonCoquixote]

2. I see that, however

Azealia Banks is an equal oppritunity insulter who has attacked many blacks, many gays, and pretty much anyone that stands in her way. If she gets on a megaphone to make an ass of herself, she shoudl nto be surprised when people at the very least sneer. Yes, she is a black woman, who frankly has gotten rich slamming other people, including other black women.

http://www.stereogum.com/1610061/the-10-dumbest-azealia-banks-beefs-of-2013/franchises/the-2013-experience/
http://www.mtv.com/news/1699732/azealia-banks-beef-history/
http://globalgrind.com/2013/01/04/azealia-banks-beef-breakdown-every-rapper-management-photos/

Now, some of these beefs I agree with. Iggy Azaelia IS a fake rapper, and T.I. does deserve blame for setting that Aussie loose, but when Azealia banks has bashed everyone from Pherrel to Lil' kim to Angel Haze, and is gettign paid well for it, it is hard to be sympathetic. Apparently she has NO problem bashing black women.

[bravenak]

6. White singers also say stupid shit.

Why no 2 day bash sessions on them? I've seen any number of bash janye posts, bash Azalea banks posts. When iggy went on her 'i'm the slave master' diatribe, DU defended Iggy by saying black people were being mean to her and racist. I see the pattern and ain't nobody up in here slick.

They can bash whomever they want and I'll just silently judge the bashers calling her sexist names and saying slick racist shit in the thread. Since I have actually had a long thread full of misrepresentation written and rec'd against me on here, I think I have experience with bash a black woman day on DU. After that, I just watch and see HOW they talk about other black people. Pile the fuck on like it's nobodies bussiness. Pile on pile on pile on. In a way they never do for the majority.

I marveled over it when Iggy went on a racist twitter spree and DU decided it was all black people's fault. They were the racist one for telling that racist woman 'i'm the slave master' lady, to get out if hip hop if she feels that way about us. No research from DU. I had been knew about her racism. DU still thinks Iggy is the victim.

[Archae]

10. Agree 100%.

Just look at Ted Nugent and Pat Boone.

We bash them constantly.

[cwydro]

108. Exactly.

This a bash a celebrity thread. We do that here all the time lol.

POC are not singled out. Just look for any Trump threads, Cheney threads, Nugent, Toby Keith...the list is long.

[B2G]

13. Maybe I'm missing something, but

how does calling out one idiot equate to basing all black women?

[hifiguy]

79. Quit using logic.

That is often frowned upon here.

[nomorenomore08]

92. It doesn't. But when you do it over and over again, conspicuously, it might make one wonder.

Some people seem to have a certain level of ire which they reserve for black celebrities.

[DonCoquixote]

14. point made

and heaven knows I have seen country singers and Ted Nugent get DESERVABLY BASHED. You could probably make a whole forum here called "stupid stuff country singers and ted Nugent say" and I would be right in there bashing.

However, the reason I responded is because, as per the links I showed, Ms. Banks likes to bash too. Long before Iggy was even a blip, she was attacking Lil Kim and Pherell. As I said, I HATE IGGY, but I do judge Banks by what she says and does.

[bravenak]

37. I have issues with Lil Kim and Pharrell myself.

That's music industry bullshit. I'm not saying I agree with everything she says or that I approve, but I will say, this is too much. I do not like watching large groups on predominatenly white folks sit around and bash a black woman with basically no research. She has her issues just like everyone else, however, her opinions on white folks will not hurt them in anyways throughout their life. Instead of working on the one black bigot the can find, why not work on the 20+ million white racists in this nation first? Maybe she won't have a reason to hate white people then...

[DonCoquixote]

96. nothing wrong with having issues

Especially as banks and Nugent have one thing in common, they are both known as much for the stuff that comes out of their mouth as what they actually sing, which is sad, because whatever music is secondary, or, to cop a phrase from you, it is "music industry bullshit" where both white and black musicians with TALENT have to take a back seat to whoever plays circus freak du jour because the music industry knows that is what sells. However, while I do see your point that black artists do seem to be free targets, I do not want to allow the Azalea Banks or the Ted Nugents or any Puerto Rican (yo soy Boricua) Musician to have a free pass to attack people on what Jesse Jackson called "the master's payroll." If we allow that, we allow the music industry to be one big propaganda campaign while the talent rots.

And yes, to ensure this is an equal opportunity callout, in the list of people whop rely more on controversy than talent, I include the darling of the moment, miss "I will court celebrity boyfriends and write about the breakups while doing FAKE country" Taylor Swift! If any black artist tried doing what she did, said black artist would be forced to wear a scarlet letter.

[bravenak]

97. So true.

Good musicians get hidden behind all the drama of a bunch of bullshit artists.
I swear that most of them would go away if we stopped paying attention. I know why Azalea keeps running her mouth. She was broke until she started upsettin folks and saying crazy shit. She has made alot of money and got alot of attention since. Maybe Kanye taught her how.

[Orrex]

106. Out of curiosity, can you name any of these non-bashed white singers?

I would love to take aim at those assholes, and I would hate to think that I've missed an opportunity.

[bravenak]

111. No need.

I'll just watch bash a black woman day.
It's nice. We got about ten black folks left on DU. No need to listen to them when they tell you whats going on is a bash a black lady party and it looks disgusting and sad. Just like our history!!! Yay!!

[Orrex]

117. Well, what kind of response is appropriate?

She's putting herself out there and saying controversial things in an apparently deliberate attempt to draw attention and generate controversy. In that regard, she's been entirely successful.

What sort of response would you find acceptable?

[bravenak]

119. Asking yourselves if she has reason to feel that way and why.

Think about why she would feel that way. It's not like white America is particularly nice as a group to black people as a group. Right? Quick to judge slow to praise.

[Orrex]

126. Ok, that's fair.

It seems pretty clear that she's deliberately seeking to get people fired up, and in this regard she's been successful.

That's not bad in its own right; even if her sole purpose is simply to act as a lightning rod, at the very least she's keeping the conversation going. And if she makes some money in the process, then good for her.


Although I don't see the overall thread as "bashing" her (with a few exceptions), I understand that you have a very different perspective, so I will defer to your experience and assessment.

[bravenak]

128. I watched DU long before I joined.

I figured that nobody knew how they looked and might want to know. It is THE main reason we have few minorities at all on DU. A special type of venom is saved for blacks and we know exactly what it looks like.
I like to think that the info we put out on the web will be here forever. People looking back at this kind of stuff in the future will probably see exactly what I see. Sad that.

[hfojvt]

113. "DU decided"

Really?

How does DU decide? Was there a thread with 110 recs? Even 110 is less than 1/3 or 1/5th of active DUers. Was there a poll where 60% voted one way? And has there ever been a poll on DU with more than 100 votes cast?

Not having read anything about Iggy Rap, I'd kind of like to see a link to some thread where there was some sort of unanimity among white DUers or something.

Have you seen any bash Sarah Palin posts? Is that a "bash a white woman day?"

Although, yes, some have complained (rightly) that some attacks on Palin have been sexist.

[bravenak]

125. I never bash Sarah Palin myself.

I have been told off for saying she was better when she was My Gov. Met her. Nice woman, very friendly children and they were sooo cute. She is a great mother. Many attacks on her were sexist.

Don't get mad a me for telling you it looks bad when a bunch of white people bash a black person for days straight abd refuse to listen to the only black person in the room who tells them how jacked up it looks. I feel like the black person at a tea party rally trying to explain why they look racist for bashing Obama nonstop.

[marym625]

127. Unless someone is bashing actual policy or

The ignorance of some policy (like Tom Cotton) I think any constant bashing shows a lack of understanding, knowledge, experience and/or some bias. No one is complete flat.

Good for you for standing up for your beliefs and for right. Especially when you are the only one in the room doing it.

Brava!

[bravenak]

129. She was an idiot on abortion and gay rights, tho.

I can separate that out from her hair styles or looks.
I should stop attending the rallys though. I look stupid trying to tell them how they look.

[marym625]

131. attending the rallies?

Actually, if she weren't pretty, people would have seen her for what she is much sooner. But then McCain might have had a chance. So thank goodness she's pretty

[bravenak]

132. The DU bash a black person rallies.

She is lucky she is pretty. I wish she'd stop bird nesting her hair though.

[marym625]

138. yeah. It's not 1972 anymore :)

[Archae]

3. Pointing out facts and confirmed statements by someone is not "bashing."

If someone posted this by Condoleeza Rice, is this "bashing?"

"We need a common enemy to unite us."

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/condoleezza_rice.html#s6fG8rqDvr3wJ2gP.99

"Oh, that's different!"

[bravenak]

8. No. Enjoy yourself.

I love watching bash a black woman day. I had my day on here once. It was terrible. I'll watch you all bash her just like you did after Iggy's racist self complained that black people were being 'mean' to her after she called herself 'the slave master'. I love watching the pile on. The self rightousness.
It is remarkable and I think it will be studied as a 'thing' in the future. I know I'll be writing about my experiences in my memoir. I wonder how many people in the future will read the posts of their ancestors and be like, damn! People REALLY hated black people back then.

[Archae]

17. So black women can do no wrong.

Not matter how wise they are, like Rosa Parks, or bloody stupid like Condi Rice.

Thanks you for clearing up your double standard I can get Bill O'Reilly's ego through.

[bravenak]

41. Who ever said they can do no wrong?

Just that some folks love picking black people apart. And calling them Uncle Tom's and Aunt Jemima's and never see how fucked up that is.
After centuries of picking black folks apart we are exhausted watching it and knowing that it's a things that is done TO us not BY us.

[ARMYofONE]

51. Terms like "Uncle Tom" and "Aunt Jemina" seemed to be used almost exclusively by Black people, as a

way for one Black person to claim that another Black person is "inauthentic". Where is this pattern you speak of involving White people using those terms?

[bravenak]

65. It happens here.

I did a poll and wrote a thread to try to get them to stop.

[Mosby]

75. you and others do the exact same thing with Israel.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

76. do what?

[Mosby]

80. DU has an obsession with Israel

I think we all know the subtext.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

83. You mean with BIBI? Yes, I hate the motherfucker, but I love the Israeli people

and the Palestinian people

[Mosby]

89. That's great, I feel the same way

But the IP group is one of the busiest on DU for no apparent reason, there are a lot of ethnic/religious conflicts in the world and yet there isn't a China/Tibet group here , or a Russia/Chechen group, or a Turkey/Cypriot group etc etc etc.

Only little Israel, a country of barely 7.2 million, gets it's own group on DU.

[Capt. Obvious]

137. We really should have a Turkey/Cypriot group

Their politics tend to dominate our government.

[Mosby]

147. Turkish occupation of Cyprus is no biggie right?

[Spider Jerusalem]

146. You know, when the USA is giving billions a year to any of those countries, maybe there will be

when there are significant political pressure groups whose sole aim is to influence US policy toward Turkey and Russia in a specifically right-wing direction? Maybe there will be. When candidates for national office in the US are routinely questioned on their position on those conflicts? Maybe there will be. But there isn't, at present. However the US does give billions in aid to Israel (more than to any other single country, in fact); there are influential lobbying organisations and political pressure groups who seek to influence US policy toward Israel; having a pro-Israel position is almost a prerequisite for anyone seeking to be elected to a national office in the US. So your whataboutery is specious nonsense.

[bravenak]

78. I call them uncle toms?

I have a problem with the occupation not the jews. I have never ran around blaming the jews for anything. I do, however have a distaste for the conservative politic of Israel and the leader who disrespects our president and says racist crap about black and arabs.
And I do not want to help Israel fund their war.
Show me where I have an obsession and cannot stop posting ops in IP. Show me. I'll wait. I don't think I ever posted an op in IP. I get into arguments with Shira and called antisemite, hamas lover, terrorism supporter, wanting israel wiped off the map, etc. I have never even had a hide in IP.

[Mosby]

84. You post an awful lot about Israel

https://www.google.com/search?q=bravenak+israel&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&gws_rd=ssl

[bravenak]

87. Not as much as most IP posters.

I post mostly in GD. U post there more than I do. So what? I can't post there without nefarious intentions?
What's this all about even? Just say it.

[Mosby]

90. You tell me

I'm Jewish, Israel is a big part of my religion and culture so when I joined DU I started posting in the IP group.

What's your attraction to the topic?

[bravenak]

91. I met a girl from palestine.

I was very religious at the time and was totally pro Israel. She brought in documents and photos of her home being torn down for settlements. She was able to come here sponsored by a family member. Her parents ended up in Europe. I said some stupid things about the bible saying the land was for the Jews. She was livid. What about her, she says? What were her people supposed to do? Just die so they could have the land? Then there was a bombing campaign in Gaza. Then Another. She lost a few people in bombings. Then I knew I was wrong.
After that, I stopped being on any side. Just the people. The ones who suffer most get the bulk of my compassion. She told me that Palestinians are the Blacks of the middle east. Arab nations despise them. Israel despises them. USA despises them. Anything can be done to them at anytime and nobody cares. So I decided to care. Now I do. Glad to see more people are coming around to my POV.

[Mosby]

93. Interesting

thanks for sharing.

[bravenak]

94. No problem.

[whatchamacallit]

5. Hmm...

I believe what you describe has happened on DU, but you do realize we bash white people for this kind of stuff all day long here.

[bravenak]

11. Not like this.

I watch you guys. When it's a black person, all bets are off. I saw her get called bitch. Kanye get called a shit bird, shit, less than a shit from Beck's asshole. I see you. It is remarkable.

[whatchamacallit]

22. Ok wait

"You guys"? The words I've used to describe Bush, Cheney, any number of white assholes, have gotten some of my posts locked for vulgarity. Do you want me to take race into account when castigating people for dumb stuff? Would you prefer I use an alternate vocabulary for people of color?

[bravenak]

40. Not you in particular.

[Archae]

7. Stupidity is color-blind.

Just look at Ben Carson.

[bravenak]

18. Yes. I watched DU call him Uncle Tom, Uncle ben.

Stuff like that that white folks NEVER get called. I wrote a thread trying to tell you guys that calling black conservatives 'uncle tom' 'aunt jemima' 'house negro' is racist. Sad I had to be the one to break it to y'all.

[Archae]

19. I don't.

I call him an asshole.

Which he is.

[bravenak]

24. Many people even here find nothing wrong with that.

But EVERYTHING wrong with this YOUNG woman. The same people who call black conservatives Uncle Tom's are the same ones who cheer on threads like this. I stopped inviting my black friends here. They tell me to get the fuck off of here. I know I should. But somebody should tell you how it looks from outside this place. No diversity and no chance for diversity. Nobody thinks that there is anything wrong when people who vote democrat are not present. Everytime I go somewhere I look for minorities to see if there are any. If not, I try to see why. I usually find stuff like this.

[Archae]

27. So being critical of a black asshole is automatically racist?

I can't help but notice I mentioned Condi Rice, two times now.
You've ignored both references.

I guess she can do no wrong, too.

[bravenak]

34. I'm talking about calling people racist shit like Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima.

Du does that shit all the time.
When I see an anti condi thread, I go down a few responses and always find Aunt Jemima. Never fails.
If you have to call her Aunt Jemima to be critical, yes, it is racist. I see it here all the time. I don't see 2 say threads bashing people who call blacks Uncle Tom's but I damn sure see 'oh, no! She hate's white people and thinks they're racist!"threads.

[CJCRANE]

73. You're the only person repeating those insults on this thread

as far as I can see.

[bravenak]

74. So what?

[CJCRANE]

81. I just think it's better to alert on individuals who use those terms

rather than broad brush accusing DUers in general of using those terms.

[bravenak]

85. I think as the only black person it's my job to notice and make sure everyone knows I notice.

Maybe the people who do it often will start getting called out by people OTHER than me. The jury does not work for everyone the same. I've seen sexism not hidden, racism not hidden, transphobia not hidden. I figure, maybe if I keep repeating it, it might shame those who think nothing of it in the future. They can reflect on why there is no equivilant nasty for white people used and why that is and why it's racist.

[NaturalHigh]

9. No - just the opposite.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026381408

[bravenak]

12. Blah.

[NaturalHigh]

16. LOL...okay.

[Sheepshank]

15. I don't know Azelia Banks. I don't know what she looks like or how she makes a living

I don't get the bashing black women at all from the OP. Perhaps it's your paradigm you need to shift.

I see a jesus freak who makes no sense and seems to make up shit and use metaphores that are completely nutty. If she is black, that doesn't change how I feel about her very public words made in a very public interview for a very public magazine..

[bravenak]

21. This is not the first thread about her and won't be the last.

It's not what you do sometimes, but HOW you do it. The first time she came up it was to bash her in order to protect racist Iggy from the fallout she recieved from calling herself 'the runaway slave master'. Azalea banks told her to leave hip hop if she felt that way about black people. What does DU do? Bash Azalea banks and the black people on twitter and call THEM the racists. I've watch how DU reacts to this person in a way they never do when the shoe is on the other foot.

Don't mind me. I'll sit back here and watch DU tear this black woman apart for the second day in a row.

[Archae]

23. Who the hell is "Iggy?"

Iggy Pop?

Or am I showing my age again?

[bravenak]

26. Iggy Azalea.

Famous White rapper from australia who says the most racist shit and then cries reverse racism when called on her shit. I watched DU fall for it. Hard. They bashed black twitter for days for 'victimizing' this girl 'just because she's white and a rapper'. I had already known about her racism. It hurt to see everyone blaming black people for this girl's problems that she caused herself. Now, every couple of weeks we gave a bash Azalea party. No wonder she hates america. America hates her.

[Archae]

30. If she's a racist like you say, then she deserves being slammed.

Same way Banks deserves being slammed for her stupid remarks.

[bravenak]

32. Nobody is gonna treat Iggy this way.

Ever. Even when she was in the wrong it was still black people's fault for being the real racists.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

77. Now you are catching on...

[Matterate]

36. A talented rapper that some don't want to rap for the same reason

some didn't want Jackie Robinson to play in the major leagues.

[bravenak]

29. After the last time.

When everyone in 'middle america' bashed the hell out of her and started sending her death threats, I'd try to understand why she feels that way. She got called so many niggers over that Iggy stuff from people from that region. Yeah, she generalized. She is not a scholar. She is young and getting die nigger messages all day long. I don't have to agree with her to say the response to her had been terrible in a way white rappers saying racist shit has not. I have not seen one person who defended Iggy and bash Azalea take the time to bash 'the runaway slave master'. Nobody cares about stuff like that.

[Sheepshank]

38. clearly there is more going on than meets the eye

i won't further participate in this particular discussion in part because there are some very strong feelings on this, I I don't feel vested enough to really contribut and research. But I will admit that I am somewhat dissolusioned that we can get all over a white singing dude that hates Liberals and publically maligns them (based on his paradigm), but must take into consideration the paradigm of someone else because of their skin color, who continually insults a wide swatch of people.

In the case of speaking out publically and the contents of their message, I'd prefere to treat them the same regardless of skin color.

[bravenak]

39. That would be great if everyone did that.

They don't. Black people get treated differently in a negative way.

[NaturalHigh]

107. Really?

Ted Nugent gets (rightfully) slammed almost unanimously whenever he makes bigoted comments. Azalea Banks, on the other hand, has a group of dedicated defenders willing to overlook statements she makes that would get any DU poster who made similar comments tombstoned in short order. Also, as I pointed out in another thread, any time someone criticizes Azalea Banks for any reason, someone is always sure to post something that begins with "but Iggy Azalea..." It's bizarre the lengths that people go to in this woman's defense.

There is a double standard, but not in the way that you think.

[bravenak]

110. Azalea Banks has reasons for feeling the way she does.

She already said she doesn't hate people BECAUSE of their color, she hates them because of what they do to people like her. The biggest racists in this nation are white. There are more white racists than black people in America. Guesss who white people want to work on first? That's right, a young black woman.
Excuses are made for any and all of the unfair, racist, or targeting of minorities. But if a black person says they HATE white folks? PANDEMONIUM! Worst things ever. 1/3 of our men go to prison in this racist country and you think I should give to shits about a little bigot on playboy. I was just trying to show y'all how stupid you all look. Millions of white racists, a history of Jim Crow and slavery, racist social systems and police departments and courts and prisons, and you wonder WHY she feels that way? Really? What has white america (as a group, not individuals) DONE to be LIKED by black americans? What? Let us vote? Not without beatings, murders and water hoses! I only defend her because somebody should. Look at how much joy you guys get from bashing black people. It makes me sick. It feel like that day you all did it to me. Not you in partucular. But yeah DU has about 10 black people left. I see why.

[NaturalHigh]

112. 1) As I said, Azalea Banks has a group of dedicated defenders.

2) I seriously don't know what you mean when you say "It feel like that day you all did it to me." It must have been a day when I wasn't around because I don't even know the context or what was said.

[bravenak]

114. You missed it then.

[hfojvt]

121. sorry but that looks like a huge double standard

if some people bash this woman or Kanye, apparently they are not bashing individuals for their individual actions, they are bashing "black people". Yet at the same time, any good work by any white individuals is written off as not being done collectively somehow, and any excuse made by some white people is somehow collective guilt too.

"Guess who white people want to work on first?"

You act like there were not dozens of threads here about Donald Sterling or Bundy or Wilson (either one) and so on.

This happens to be one of the stories of the moment. Getting lots of publicity for Playboy and for Banks.

[bravenak]

123. Are you the guy that got pissed that a 'stupid' woman got a job over him?

Then a 'black' guy? You were so angry. I stopped listening to you after you called that woman stupid.

[hfojvt]

141. I gave a couple of examples like that

Don't believe I ever called her stupid, although I clearly knew far more about Madeleine L'Engle than she did which would have served that customer a little better.

So if I was black you would defend me if I said "I hate white women" but as a white guy I am a jerk for noting (just noting mind you) that a black guy (or two, (or three)) got a job over me?

[bravenak]

142. That was why I stopped paying attention.

[NaturalHigh]

45. Iggy Azalea seems to be your answer to all things concerning Azalea Banks.

Azalea Banks is racist - Iggy Azalea.

Azalea Banks is homophobic - Iggy Azalea.

Azalea Banks is an idiot - Iggy Azalea.

It doesn't work after a while.

[bravenak]

54. This all started over Iggy on DU.

My problem is not with the discussion. But after watching her be called bitches and told to leave america and that she has white america's money, how do you expect me to feel? White America's money? Like if a black woman EARNS money it still belongs to 'White America"? Really? Ha! Nothing racist about that.
When i see someone get called out for bigotry by people saying sexist (bitch) or racist (white america's money) I know that racism is not what they really care about. But don't trip. I loooove watching the pile on. It's like a circus full of clowns who don't know they are clowns.

Love it.

[NaturalHigh]

59. I think there were plenty of racist and sexist comments about Iggy Azalea.

Actually I'm pretty sure some of those racist and sexist comments were made by Miss Banks herself.

I'm not tripping. I promise. As I said in another thread, I'm grateful for that particular toss-up about Iggy Azalea and "cultural appropriation." At least I found out who Iggy Azalea was.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

103. The DU community hid the post calling Banks a bitch even though the poster used asterisks

Trying to pin that on everyone who is offended by Banks' bigotry is disingenuous.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

63. One of them should change their names....

....to Kaiser Soze....

or wait! Finkel is Einhorn! Einhorn is Finkel!

[NaturalHigh]

64. LOL...I would watch Iggy Azalea dance with Jennifer Lopez if they were named Bert and Ernie.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

66. Meh, Iggy is no JLo

I think she got out cl(ass)ed by a lot.

[NaturalHigh]

68. Hey - I see what you did there!

I'll watch it a few more times to see if I agree with you.

[Lizzie Poppet]

115. What she looks like IS how she makes a living.

Just sayin'...

[MosheFeingold]

28. Just substitute Justin Bieber if it makes you feel better

They are all just part of the bread and circuses with which Caesar distracts the masses.

[BklnDem75]

31. It is getting pretty blatant... nt

[bravenak]

35. Umm hmm.

I'll just keep watching and telling them how they look.

[cali]

42. no kidding. I mean really, why would anyone care what she says.

OK, she's an angry young woman who's lashing out but so what.

[bravenak]

44. I really cannot stand her, but this goes on for days with her.

Nothing she ever says is very important.

[cali]

49. I think the current very long thread about her and this one

are, well, curious. I don't much like it.

[bravenak]

50. This thing with her started when you took a break after all the antisemitism.

Been going on for months. I don't like it either.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

53. When Ted Nugent says something stupid, three or four threads pop up at a time about it

People unfortunately are too quick to post OPs complaining about something already being addressed because they don't simply scroll a little or do a search.

[cali]

56. I don't think there are threads about him with over 350 responses.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

58. Because no one attempts to defend him

We're all pretty clear on Ted Nugent being an asshole, a major fucking one.

Apparently Ms Banks calling people fags, sniffing down her nose at minimum wage workers and proclaiming her Godliness has to be mitigated somehow.

[NaturalHigh]

71. Exactly.

Ted Nugent makes stupid, racist comments and is roundly condemned. Azalea Banks makes them and is zealously defended.

[Bluenorthwest]

109. Banks calls gay men 'fag**ts' and even uses the quaint term 'fag**try' as in

"Listen, I didn’t say all gay men are faggots; I said Perez Hilton is a faggot, so don’t try and bring the rest of the gays down with your faggotry.”-

We do not see defenses of such slur spouting bigots often on DU, only those who are anti gay slur merchants, anti gay clergy, anti gay politicians get that defense.
It is definitive when a person defends those who use slurs. Straight people live under the mistaken impression that their pop stars and preachers can indulge in horrific anti gay attacks and still be somehow valid sources of information and influence.
Pat Buchanan used to say David Duke had some great ideas if you just look past the racism. He was also incorrect.

[Coventina]

136. Geez! What century does she live in? I'm surprised she didn't throw "buggery" in there as well.

[Oktober]

46. Every day is 'Bash Stupid People' Day... This particular stupid person happens to be black...

... but that is not the reason she is being bashed.

Clear? Is there any way I could lay that out for you any simpler?

[bravenak]

48. When is bash YOU day, again?

Everyday?
I see you think I'm stupid. That figures. I expect that from people like you. I'm black, don't agree with your pov. Must be stupid. Cannot possibly be yourself.

[Oktober]

69. By all means...

... if you can find a logical and dispassionate point where I have made an error, I encourage you to point it out to me so I can adjust my thinking.

Beyond that, I didn't know you were black. I did know that you are extremely sensitive.

I will say that I wouldn't think highly of anyone who agreed with the drivel that comes out of this 'artist's' mouth. If that shoe fits then feel free to slip it on but I hope not.

[bravenak]

70. I don't have to agree with her to notice a pattern of behavior in others.

When I started reading about her having 'white America's money' i knew what it was.
Not everything in life is logical. Some things are emotional and historical. Some things are based on perception. When I see a bunch of people of the majority going on 2 day bashing sprees of a minority for words she said and saying she should leave the country, while defending the first amendment rights of the kids singing about lynching ni**** and saying they should not be expelled, it looks bad. Same group of folks. Different stance on first amendment when it comes to a black bigot as opposed to a bunch of white racists talking about killing people who look like me, I feel offended. That girl did not talk about lynching white americans like those boys did. I see NOBODY who defended those kids right to be at school after talking about lynching us and defending their first amendment rights defending hers. I watch. I see. There are different standards based on who you are and that is NOT LOGICAL. Never was, yet here we are. In unlogicville.

[NaturalHigh]

86. This isn't about the First Amendment.

Most of us agree that the government shouldn't be able to censor the speech of anyone, but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be called out for their stupidity. I personally didn't see anyone defend the frat boy idiots, no matter what the debate on the legality of their expulsions. As I pointed out in another thread, I don't see it as a First Amendment issue, because they signed the university code of conduct. Debating that particular, narrow issue, though, is hardly defending them or what they said (sang, I guess).

If the racist frat boys are going to be (rightly) excoriated for their speech, though, there is no reason the racist, homophobic, and just plain hateful singer (sic) shouldn't also be called out for hers.

I absolutely defend her right to say those things. THAT is what the First Amendment is about. Her right doesn't extend to being immune from criticism.

[bravenak]

88. That's fine.

Then I wasn't talking about you.

[Kelvin Mace]

52. And everytime ANYONE says something this stupid

they will get grief for it. Has ZERO to do with race.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

55. How dare she be angry at a country that has treated her and her family and ancestors like

shit and still does.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

57. Ok, so where does calling people "fags" come from? n/m

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

60. IDK, terrible thing if she said it. Your point?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

61. People are calling her a homophobe because she deserves it

Apparently, this is not allowed, however.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

62. Let me help you. NO, homophobia is horrible.

.....






Now, what I suggest to white people is if you are not a minority and havent lived that experience, dont judge someone who is and has.

If you are a straight person dont judge the attitudes or actions of a gay person who has dealt with similar hatred and bigotry.

etc etc

[Nuclear Unicorn]

105. Since when do you get to tell people when they are or are not allowed to speak?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

116. I would never tell you to shut up, what would I do for entertainment around here without

you

[Nuclear Unicorn]

118. You never addressed why calling-out Banks' homophobia is racist.

You merely hid behind a pronouncement about a rich celebrity having suffered some how.

[hughee99]

120. I think it was only "bash a black women" day for some people.

For at least one person, it might have been "defend an idiotic, racist, homophobe day".

[bravenak]

122. I love when white people call black people racist. It's funny. Clean hands and all.

[hughee99]

133. I love when people are willing to defend any idiot based on nothing more than skin color or gender.

I guess we both found something we love in this thread.

[bravenak]

134. I love when people do no research on a person and jump on a bandwagon.

[hughee99]

135. And I love it when people defend one stupid statement by complaining that

people weren't offended by other stupid statements, as if they have any idea what other people were or were not offended by based on what they did or didn't see on a single message board.

[tabasco]

124. Are black women off-limits for bashing, then?

Interesting.

[bravenak]

130. By a bunch of white only folks?

Yep. Y'all need to cut that shit out and work on YOUR racists. Where is the white community on THEIR racism? Never bother to spends days bashing each of them on thread after thread. Nope. You all call racists 'founding fathers' and wonder why this young lady hates you all. It disgusted me to be told history in school like I should be proud of America. She talks about this all the time. How history is taught. How hard it is to move forward.

[tabasco]

144. LOL

Keep looking, Your Majesty. Maybe you'll find someone to obey your decrees.

[bravenak]

145. I like when you call me that. It seems proper and correct.

[tabasco]

148. By all means, my liege!

[Rex]

4. Anyone want ranch dressing with their word salad?

"I don’t understand how someone could be an atheist. Think about God as software, right? If you were to look at God’s face, your head would explode. Because your head is a calculator, and the amount of information that would be embedded in his face would fit only on a Google-size data center. Your head cannot handle that much information. Stop looking for God."

Well, going by that pretzel logic, atheists don't want their heads exploding. Even on accident.

[Matterate]

20. Racist, homophobic, and talentless.

Hopefully her career is short-lived.

[Brother Buzz]

47. Talent is subjective

However her racist and homophobic behavior is well documented

[AverageJoe90]

43. I'm no atheist(or a fan of modern atheism for that matter), but her arguments don't quite hold up...

In my opinion, anyway.

[countryjake]

67. That April Playboy interviewed Cheney, too.

So that's the outrageous quote you decided to pull from that issue of Playboy?

I could not care less what the young woman had to say in that magazine, but if I chose to compare her interview alongside what the racist pig Dick Cheney had to spew, the rantings of the war-mongering former VP might be what I'd consider a DU-worthy thread.

I don't normally ever read or pay attention to much that's published in Playboy...it's meaningless tripe not worth wasting one's time over, but the Cheney piece in next month's issue truly is something to get riled-up about.



This entire thread is a

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

72. There are about five threads related to what Cheney said in Playboy on the first page of GD alone

And I'm guessing more if you go back to yesterday when it broke....

But considering we all know Cheney is an asshole and no one even remotely tries to defend what he says, those threads aren't going to draw at lot of volleys and retorts.

[Bad Thoughts]

82. This is so outrageous that I don't give a damn

As famous or controversial as Ms. Banks might be, her ignorant comments about faith really mean nothing and effect no one. Move on.

[sakabatou]

95. *yawns*

[Number23]

101. I see your Dr. Cox and raise you about a million

Between our two videos, I think we've pretty much encapsulated how DU feels about this thread.

[sakabatou]

102. Yep.

[TheSarcastinator]

98. the idea that you would get upset about the opinions expressed

by a 20-some year old pop singer is really, really sad. Why does her opinion -- ignorant, informed, or other -- matter to you at all? You must not have enough to keep you busy.

[hrmjustin]

99. Jesus freak? That is rather demeaning.

I am a Christian and don't appreciate the term.

[NaturalHigh]

104. I don't like it either but I've learned to let it roll off my back.

It gets used so often here that I don't even bother replying or shaking my head any more.

[JustAnotherGen]

139. Oh my!