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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 05:55 PM Mar 2015

‘My dad will not let me go to your sleepover because you’re black': Girl receives note from friend

http://thegrio.com/2015/03/18/parents-racist-note-sleepover/

Harmony Jones had invited several friends to a sleepover for her birthday party, but one of her friends wrote a letter in response explaining why she couldn’t come. It turns out her father might not let her go simply because Harmony is black.

“Maybe I will not be able to go to your birthday sleepover because my dad will not let me go because you are black,” the letter said.

When Harmony’s father, Christopher Jones, saw the letter, he was shocked.

“It angered me a little bit, it hurt me that my 10-year-old girl had to deal with this, and I myself never thought I would have to deal with this,” he said to WREG.


Gosh, I love it here in post-racial 'Murka!

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‘My dad will not let me go to your sleepover because you’re black': Girl receives note from friend (Original Post) KamaAina Mar 2015 OP
Racism has to be carefully taught. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #1
And it is. Over and over and over again Number23 Mar 2015 #31
Born and bred into America..... msanthrope Mar 2015 #44
Good God, that is absolutely PERFECT Number23 Mar 2015 #59
The different colored markers and not wanting to be "Races" combined with what it's about? uppityperson Mar 2015 #2
Not trying to be races -WTF??? malaise Mar 2015 #3
Given that he appears to be teaching her to be racist mythology Mar 2015 #7
Wouldn't be surprised if she's a better speller than her dad... n/t nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #13
She's strapped to a racist POS father...... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #43
That's probably how HE spells it, too! valerief Mar 2015 #64
sad dembotoz Mar 2015 #4
and we sometimes wonder.... chillfactor Mar 2015 #5
Sickening LittleBlue Mar 2015 #6
see #47- any thoughts anyone? appalachiablue Mar 2015 #50
I feel bad for both children. bravenak Mar 2015 #8
Me too, but especially for the birthday girl. This has to sting. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #14
Yep. bravenak Mar 2015 #17
Same sakabatou Mar 2015 #18
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2015 #19
Sounds like the mother of Azealia Banks The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #9
What do you know about her mother? I think I must have missed that controversy. bravenak Mar 2015 #10
From that article in the large thread about her The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #11
My gramma just said Ronald Reagan was the devil. bravenak Mar 2015 #12
You gramma was right. Reagan was the devil. n/t FSogol Mar 2015 #29
+10 appalachiablue Mar 2015 #40
Not extremely dissimilar, no. But bringing it into this thread seems a little odd. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #15
Why? It's just a comparison The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #20
I am terribly mortified that... ret5hd Mar 2015 #16
Thank you. Seriously Number23 Mar 2015 #21
And this one. bravenak Mar 2015 #58
Your concern is duly noted. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #24
Thank you! The agony this person must be going through... ret5hd Mar 2015 #33
Don't go over to your friends house because she's black The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #25
My god I weep for you. Your life must be nothing... ret5hd Mar 2015 #28
I'm neither the white father, nor the black mother, that said either of those things The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #36
Attacking you??? I am empathizing with your pain and agony! ret5hd Mar 2015 #41
Please take your act somewhere else. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #46
You love 'putting your foot down'. bravenak Mar 2015 #57
Not any more... cyberswede Mar 2015 #61
well my god, it is about damn time. how many hides did i get addressing his racist/misogynist self. seabeyond Mar 2015 #62
OMG. Thank god!!!! bravenak Mar 2015 #63
I am so glad you get it! ret5hd Mar 2015 #35
Just horrible esp. for the b.day girl. The white mother may disagree but is following her husband. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #22
They're probably one of those "father knows best" kind of families. n/t nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #27
Indeed, head of the household bit, Mom's subservient to Dad. That was even a factor in the film, appalachiablue Mar 2015 #39
see #47 any thoughts? Harmony Jones, beautiful name of the little girl. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #52
Sad stuff indeed. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #23
May sound odd, but the white girl might grow up liberal, from this event and life. It happens. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #34
It certainly does! =) nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #45
Yes it does! appalachiablue Mar 2015 #54
I hope so. romanic Mar 2015 #60
Dad is rank and file TeaParTY NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #26
cringeworthy AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #32
On the contrary. It has to be exposed. Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #38
Happy Birthday! Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #37
Why did the a-hole white family have the daughter put that part in the note? instead of just a appalachiablue Mar 2015 #47
my guess is mum thought she was just expressing birthday wishes Skittles Mar 2015 #49
Probably the case I realize after re-reading the note. So not the ogre parents doing. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #68
the girl spent some time on that note, using different colors Skittles Mar 2015 #69
Yep real rotten, sad. The note is colorful & special meaning she cared as a normal kid would. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #70
That is a good idea. She deserves an extra-special birthday after this. n/t nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #53
Hello Kitty dress! betsuni Mar 2015 #55
Thanks for cute ideas! appalachiablue Mar 2015 #56
i was thinking the parents didn't know she put that in the letter. JI7 Mar 2015 #65
I figured the parents were involved but maybe not after looking closer at the note. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #67
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2015 #42
the little girl sound decent Skittles Mar 2015 #48
So sad. tavernier Mar 2015 #51
Breaks my heart. bluesbassman Mar 2015 #66

Number23

(24,544 posts)
31. And it is. Over and over and over again
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:46 PM
Mar 2015

The old "I can't wait for the old racists to die!1" line ignores how carefully cultivated and passed on racism is and always has been.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
59. Good God, that is absolutely PERFECT
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 01:13 AM
Mar 2015

There used to be a time when DU used to teach me all kinds of (good) things but those days are long gone.

Or at least they were long gone, until today!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
2. The different colored markers and not wanting to be "Races" combined with what it's about?
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:05 PM
Mar 2015

I don't understand people. Not meaning the girl, but the dad? Grrrrr

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
7. Given that he appears to be teaching her to be racist
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:33 PM
Mar 2015

Maybe he shouldn't teach her or anybody anything.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
43. She's strapped to a racist POS father......
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 08:59 PM
Mar 2015

...her spelling shouldn't even figure into this equation.

- Racism is taught. The damage is does goes well beyond words........

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
5. and we sometimes wonder....
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:25 PM
Mar 2015

how racism moves from one generation to another ... this father is the perfect example ...

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
9. Sounds like the mother of Azealia Banks
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:39 PM
Mar 2015

Lots of people don't like lots of other people because of all sorts of reasons. Life can be fairly absurd most of the time.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
11. From that article in the large thread about her
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:54 PM
Mar 2015
"I wrote in the journal one day, 'I cannot stand this white b---- teacher. F--- this white b----,'" Banks continued. "She found my journal and called my mother, who was embarrassed, because my mother used to say stuff like that — 'White people are the devil. Stay away from them.' That teacher was scared of me after that."


If that's an accurate statement, that's somewhat similar.
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
12. My gramma just said Ronald Reagan was the devil.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 06:56 PM
Mar 2015

Thanks for the info. She learned her bigotry at home where most do, I see.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
20. Why? It's just a comparison
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:34 PM
Mar 2015

White, black, male, female, parents can say all kinds of things to their kids. Stay away from black people. Stay away from white people. Nothing objective about either one. Just another example of how subjective and absurd life can be.

ret5hd

(20,495 posts)
16. I am terribly mortified that...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:15 PM
Mar 2015

Azealia Banks was able to keep white people from getting a bank loan, using a restroom, buying a house, etc. This is exactly the kind of racism that must be STOPPED! My god, The2ndWheel must really feel a lot of pain!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
21. Thank you. Seriously
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:38 PM
Mar 2015

I guess yesterday's Hate a Negro thread had to be transferred over to this one too.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
25. Don't go over to your friends house because she's black
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:40 PM
Mar 2015

Stay away from white people, they're the devil.

Nothing about bank loans, restrooms, buying houses, or anything to do with systemic or institutional racism. It's about parents telling their kids to not have anything to do with people that don't look like them.

ret5hd

(20,495 posts)
28. My god I weep for you. Your life must be nothing...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:43 PM
Mar 2015

but pain and misery! The horrors you must go through.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
36. I'm neither the white father, nor the black mother, that said either of those things
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:51 PM
Mar 2015

Why are you attacking me? Because I made a comparison between what two individual people apparently said?

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
46. Please take your act somewhere else.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:16 PM
Mar 2015

Because you are *not* funny, and, furthermore, you're being a troll. Cut that shit out.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
62. well my god, it is about damn time. how many hides did i get addressing his racist/misogynist self.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:34 AM
Mar 2015

thanks.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
63. OMG. Thank god!!!!
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:42 AM
Mar 2015

Maybe I'll be a believer now.
What a special day! TBH, I thought we were stuck with him.

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
22. Just horrible esp. for the b.day girl. The white mother may disagree but is following her husband.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:39 PM
Mar 2015

Who knows.

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
39. Indeed, head of the household bit, Mom's subservient to Dad. That was even a factor in the film,
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 08:08 PM
Mar 2015

'The Butler' where the Mom (Oprah Winfrey) couldn't see her panther 'militant' son away at college in the Civil Rights era '60s b/c the father (Forrest Whitaker) disapproved of his son's activities (calling Poitier an Uncle Tom, etc.), but she talked her son on the phone. Not the racism issue, but the same mother and father deal. 'The Butler' was an excellent movie.
There was an OP here a few months ago about a woman whose older sister sponsored a Jewish friend to join her college sorority in Colorado in the 1960s but the friend was denied entrance. The sister fought it but found herself named a communist by Birchers in the local newspaper. Unbelievable. I hate racism, bigots, discrimination and injustice.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
23. Sad stuff indeed.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:40 PM
Mar 2015

I just hope that little girl(the white one) doesn't grow up to be a fully inculcated racist like her father apparently is.

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
34. May sound odd, but the white girl might grow up liberal, from this event and life. It happens.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:48 PM
Mar 2015

Here's hoping.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
60. I hope so.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 02:11 AM
Mar 2015

But racism is an insidious trait that passes on through generations. I hope it stops with this little girl in her family.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
38. On the contrary. It has to be exposed.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 07:54 PM
Mar 2015

There are insular societies that are resistant to any kind of diversity exposure. Many of them are part of the status quo. Exposure is the only way to send the message that will reach every generation within that closed society.

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
47. Why did the a-hole white family have the daughter put that part in the note? instead of just a
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:22 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:57 PM - Edit history (1)

'no' reply note/call which would have been awful enough. Hope the little girl had a wonderful celebration in spite of the ugly racism. I wonder if anyone sent her something special, after this article in the 'Grio' appeared. That is something I could contribute to, inconspicuously & if OK with the parents- to send good wishes, tell her how beautiful & loved she is. ANY IDEAS? I'd give anything to have a daughter like that, what a sweetie in the picture.

ETA: Update: Will try to contact 'The Grio' about this, a greeting for little Harmony Jones by email. (I don't have FB or TW).
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appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
68. Probably the case I realize after re-reading the note. So not the ogre parents doing.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 05:43 PM
Mar 2015

The girl got put into this, tried to explain, sent birthday wishes anyway (at age 10!) and both kids were hurt, and Harmony's family. Such an ugly, sad situation. Later I recalled this was similar to a childhood event that we were uninvited to; causes shame and mild contempt for some people, sorry to say.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
69. the girl spent some time on that note, using different colors
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 06:34 PM
Mar 2015

what she essentially said was that she wishes she could go and wanted her friend to know it was her parents who were being assholes

dreadful parents - racist dad and at the very least, a very spineless mother

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
70. Yep real rotten, sad. The note is colorful & special meaning she cared as a normal kid would.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 06:45 PM
Mar 2015

And too young to fully understand her foul parents, she's honest & innocent in her actions and feelings. Perhaps the girl will turn out different than them, it does happen. Here's hoping.

appalachiablue

(41,145 posts)
67. I figured the parents were involved but maybe not after looking closer at the note.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 05:33 PM
Mar 2015

The article doesn't indicate whether it was the girl's or her parent's effort. At the top the note says Dad might not let me go..At the bottom right there's smthg. about 'my Mom' then the printing is cut off, ...and 'let me & happy birthday'. How sad, perhaps the girl wrote it to explain that her Mom might let her and to also wish Harmony Happy Birthday in case she couldn't attend. The entire issue is so rotten, ugly and sad it makes me ill, can't imagine how Harmony's family felt. (Later this reminded me of an issue from childhood when we were uninvited to a neighbors event).

tavernier

(12,392 posts)
51. So sad.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 09:33 PM
Mar 2015

I came here from europe at four years of age after WWII and I was shunned as well. I "talked" funny, and my clothes were hand made.

It never really leaves you, that feeling of being "different".

We were the only foreigners in our community, so I had to learn quickly to adapt.

My situation was different, but I know this little one will always remember that sting of rejection.

Shame on the adults who did this to an innocent child.



bluesbassman

(19,374 posts)
66. Breaks my heart.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 05:10 PM
Mar 2015

If there is a Hell, I'm betting there's an especially nasty little corner of it for people who mess up children's minds like this.

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