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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 12:14 AM Mar 2015

Jacksonville voter almost turned away after being told she was dead

http://www.news4jax.com/news/jacksonville-voter-almost-turned-away-after-being-told-she-was-dead/31995718

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -

While tens of thousands of people voted Tuesday without a hitch, one Jacksonville woman got the shock of her life when she hit the polls.

Shirley Johnson went to the Victory Celebration Church on New Berlin Road around 6:30 Tuesday. Excited that there were no lines, she thought that everything would run smoothly and she would be able to cast her vote, and make it home in time for dinner.

Unfortunately that’s not what happened and Johnson said she almost didn’t even get to vote.

Johnson showed poll workers her voter registration card, showing that she’d been registered to vote in Duval County since 1992, at which point a poll worker took her aside and told her that their system said she was dead.

Johnson has voted in every election since she got her card and though there have been some hiccups along the way, nothing like this she said.

"She came in and she said, “It’s just going to be a few minutes. They told me it'd take 15 or 20 more minutes. But they're going to try to put you in the system.” I asked, “Well how did I die? Who said?” She said, “Someone had to call.” I said, “Well, isn't this official records? Who could say something like that?” And she said, “Well, someone had to let them know that.”
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Jacksonville voter almost turned away after being told she was dead (Original Post) mfcorey1 Mar 2015 OP
To be fair, I probably would have done the same. bluedigger Mar 2015 #1
But the dead are such reliable voters... brooklynite Mar 2015 #18
I wonder how that happened? gratuitous Mar 2015 #2
She ain't bona fide Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #3
Relatives there always vote, Dem. appalachiablue Mar 2015 #4
If Ms Johnson is a registered Dem I doubt it was an accident. lpbk2713 Mar 2015 #5
You think it was homicide? jberryhill Mar 2015 #6
Please read Greg Palast's "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" Midnight Writer Mar 2015 #10
I'm surprised they didn't ask for a note from a doctor jberryhill Mar 2015 #7
The state that gave us the Terri Schiavo saga won't let dead people vote? jberryhill Mar 2015 #8
YAY! vlakitti Mar 2015 #12
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2015 #9
Frankenstein promises fair electrodes for all! pinboy3niner Mar 2015 #13
The problem is a lot of names are very common. SheilaT Mar 2015 #11
I have a great line for such occasions DFW Mar 2015 #14
make it a crime to prevent american citizen from voting captainarizona Mar 2015 #15
Other countries are mystified by our need to "register" to vote..... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #17
So are you in favor of voters having to prove their citizenship at the poll? n/t hughee99 Mar 2015 #19
voters shouldn't have to prove they are citizens captainarizona Mar 2015 #20
So basically it would be a crime to prevent anyone from voting, hughee99 Mar 2015 #21
It has worked for 200 years captainarizona Mar 2015 #22
The way the first post was worded hughee99 Mar 2015 #23
Why do I picture the "organ donor" guys from Python showing up? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #16

bluedigger

(17,087 posts)
1. To be fair, I probably would have done the same.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 12:25 AM
Mar 2015

I mean, if she's dead, there's little point in encouraging her, now is there?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. I wonder how that happened?
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 12:31 AM
Mar 2015

Then I clicked on the story, and I wasn't quite so mystified.

A name like Shirley Johnson probably isn't all that rare, so maybe some eager beaver elections person got word of a Shirley Johnson dying, and decided to purge all the Shirley Johnsons in (ahem) certain precincts.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
5. If Ms Johnson is a registered Dem I doubt it was an accident.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 01:01 AM
Mar 2015



It has happened before and I'm sure it will happen again.



Midnight Writer

(21,795 posts)
10. Please read Greg Palast's "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy"
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 02:08 AM
Mar 2015

for an in depth and specific look at Florida's voter purges. It will make you sick.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. I'm surprised they didn't ask for a note from a doctor
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 01:10 AM
Mar 2015

Ms. Johnson is not a qualified medical professional, so I would have expected them not to have simply accepted her own diagnosis. Whether or not she is alive is merely her own opinion.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. The state that gave us the Terri Schiavo saga won't let dead people vote?
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 01:15 AM
Mar 2015

I'm starting to wonder why it's so hard to tell if people are alive or dead in Florida.

Is their state animal Schroedinger's cat?
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. The problem is a lot of names are very common.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 02:08 AM
Mar 2015

I sometimes go on the internet to try to find someone I know, and I'm often astonished at how many people there are out there with the same name.

I happen to be the only person in this country right now with my particular first and last name, but all of you should google your own name, if you've never done it. You'd be surprised at how much less than unique you are.

However, there needs to be a better system so that one Shirley Johnson dies, all of the other Shirley Johnsons don't get removed from the polling list.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
14. I have a great line for such occasions
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 03:00 AM
Mar 2015

Florida must be one of those guns-for-all state by now, so look like you're packing.

Then tell the poll worker:

"Tell you what: if I'm dead, then I can kill you right here and now and nothing can be done to me because I'm already dead. If that does NOT sound like an equitable solution to you, then let me vote. Your choice."

Like my dad used to quote to us as kids:

One bright day in the middle of the night
Two dead boys got up to fight
Back to back they faced each other
Drew their knives and shot each other
A deaf policeman heard the noise
And came to kill the two dead boys.

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
15. make it a crime to prevent american citizen from voting
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 03:02 AM
Mar 2015

If the state has ballot measures, put it on a the ballot to make it a crime to prevent an american citizen from voting. We can say while we don't want non citizens from voting those laws should not prevent an american citizen from voting. Anyone supporting laws to prevent non citizens from voting and making it a crime should be asked why shouldn't it be a crime to prevent an american citizen from voting?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. Other countries are mystified by our need to "register" to vote.....
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 03:29 AM
Mar 2015

Just show them this and it all becomes clear:

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
20. voters shouldn't have to prove they are citizens
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 03:47 PM
Mar 2015

voters shouldn't have to prove they are citizens. It is the state that has to prove they are not citizens and make it a crime punishable by fine and prison if they stop an american citizen from prison. It is a violation of our civil right to vote!

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
21. So basically it would be a crime to prevent anyone from voting,
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 04:30 PM
Mar 2015

since there's no way the people at the polls could determine whether the person is a citizen or not. I'm not trying to give you shit, I'm just trying to figure out how this proposal would work.

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
22. It has worked for 200 years
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:34 AM
Mar 2015

You go in tell them who you are they look for your name and sign in and vote. I did this for the first 40 years of my voting. The penalties for illegal in person voting are severe it is not worth it.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
23. The way the first post was worded
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:15 AM
Mar 2015

It would sound like any poll worker that presented any obstacles to voting (like if the person hadn't registered to vote, or wasn't registered in that precinct, district or even state) would be committing a crime if the didn't let that person vote anyway.

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