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raccoon

(31,120 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:11 AM Mar 2015

Whippersnappers, did you know that in olden days, we didn't know who'd be the Democratic/Republican

presidential nominee UNTIL THE PARTY'S CONVENTION?

Can you believe it? That says something about our electoral system...but I don't know what it is.





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Whippersnappers, did you know that in olden days, we didn't know who'd be the Democratic/Republican (Original Post) raccoon Mar 2015 OP
Wanna know what happened? We let people vote. brooklynite Mar 2015 #1
You should read up on your history n2doc Mar 2015 #7
Yes, it all started to change after WW2 Renew Deal Mar 2015 #2
It wasn't WWII Atman Mar 2015 #3
That's When National Conventions Used To Be Exciting To Watch..... global1 Mar 2015 #9
Oh, how I remember those days of conventions. old guy Mar 2015 #11
We have a money driven system now madokie Mar 2015 #4
Damn nominees, get off my lawn! NuclearDem Mar 2015 #5
Bush/Clinton dynasties vi5 Mar 2015 #6
Sure, you know what it is. Orsino Mar 2015 #8
As a youngster, I always watched the convention coverage. MineralMan Mar 2015 #10

brooklynite

(94,728 posts)
1. Wanna know what happened? We let people vote.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:14 AM
Mar 2015

Imagine! letting the ordinary unwashed voters have a say in who the Presidential candidates would be, instead of leaving the choice to seasoned political party bosses. What could they have been thinking?

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
7. You should read up on your history
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 09:04 AM
Mar 2015

For most of US history, nominees were set at the conventions, usually by deals with party bosses. Voting by ordinary citizens was not the primary factor.

on edit, here's a link
http://history1800s.about.com/od/presidentialcampaigns/a/politconvent01.htm

For the first 50 years or so, nominees were anointed by members of congress....

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
2. Yes, it all started to change after WW2
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:22 AM
Mar 2015

The Dema kept the legacy of the old system with the super-delegates.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
3. It wasn't WWII
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:34 AM
Mar 2015

I remember getting to stay up late to watch the conventions, when I was just 12 or 13. It was like sports. You had no idea who was going to win until the end. Now you're told who the winner is before the game even starts.

global1

(25,270 posts)
9. That's When National Conventions Used To Be Exciting To Watch.....
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 09:56 AM
Mar 2015

I remember those days well. I used to sit in front of a small DuMont Black and White TV and watch all the proceedings. My parents let me stay of late to watch.

"Mr. Chairman - From the great state of Illinois - Hog Butcher Of The World - Our (X number of votes) go to our favorite son - Adlai Stevenson/"

Those were the days my friend.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. We have a money driven system now
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 08:35 AM
Mar 2015

back then not so much. Oh sure money was still in the equation but most politicians kept it suppressed for fear of breaking laws etc. Today politicians have passed laws that pretty much lets them do any and everything s/he/they want to do lawfully. Right not necessarily the case but lawfully yes. Check out the monetary worth of the garden variety of politicians today and you can see they're in it for the money.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. Sure, you know what it is.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 09:10 AM
Mar 2015

Money now has its own primaries, and is often able to anoint candidates before voters get to participate.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
10. As a youngster, I always watched the convention coverage.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 09:57 AM
Mar 2015

That's where I learned about the walking caucus system, in which I now participate in Minnesota's conventions. It's a fascinating survivor of the past, and extremely interesting if you're at a convention that uses that method.

Today's system is driven by the 24-hour news cycle, which didn't exist back then. We read the newspaper, watched the evening network news, and that was it. Today, we watch "news" channels that are almost 100% commentary, instead of news. Me? I'm still watching the evening news on CBS, along with my local news, and reading the newspaper. I don't watch any cable "news" networks. I try to think for myself, and do whatever research I need on my own.

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