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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:49 AM Mar 2015

Studies Show Outdoor Cats Are Popular Prey for Coyotes

American Bird Conservancy (ABC), the leading bird conservation organization in the United States, advises that as coyotes continue to move into and around large cities such as New York, Chicago, Boston, Washington, D.C., Detroit, Los Angeles, and others, owners of cats should think twice before letting their pet roam free outdoors. Studies show that outdoor cats make up 13-45 percent of coyote diets in those environments.

A study just published in the spring edition of The Wildlife Professional, focuses on the urban coyote reality and references sightings of the carnivore in Central Park and Manhattan. While coyote attacks on humans are rare, the study says that when human attacks have occurred, “…there is a correlation between high percentages of anthropogenic food sources – such as dog food, trash, and domestic cats.” It states further that reducing such incidents might require removing all exterior food sources, including cats.

According to one widely-cited scientific study on cat mortality from coyotes, Observations of Coyote-Cat Interactions by Shannon Grubbs of the University of Arizona and Paul Krausman of the University of Montana, coyotes regularly feed on cats. This study was published in the Journal of Wildlife Management, and chronicles researchers tracking coyotes in Tucson, Arizona, where 36 coyote-cat interactions were observed of which 19 resulted in coyotes killing cats.

Other studies have found that approximately 13% of a coyote’s diet consists of cats. However, in the Grubbs-Krausman study, of the 45 instances where coyotes were observed feeding, 42% of the meals were cats. The researchers concluded that any cat outside is vulnerable to coyote attack, and recommended that cat owners keep their cats indoors.

http://www.abcbirds.org/newsandreports/releases/120329.html

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Studies Show Outdoor Cats Are Popular Prey for Coyotes (Original Post) XemaSab Mar 2015 OP
Fox food GusBob Mar 2015 #1
for the safety of cats and other animals, people should raise cats to be indoors CreekDog Mar 2015 #2
That's a sad life for a cat allforone Mar 2015 #15
No, it's not CreekDog Mar 2015 #24
Cats need to hunt , to feel grass under their paws, to chase a bird allforone Mar 2015 #25
Wild cats do, not so for domesticated cats CreekDog Mar 2015 #35
100% agree Politicalboi Mar 2015 #28
The poster doesn't get it and never will allforone Mar 2015 #31
I would never want to own an indoor only cat Politicalboi Mar 2015 #36
Uh, no, it's not a sad life for a cat Warpy Mar 2015 #39
what about snow days, you make cats all have a sad snooper2 Mar 2015 #22
We don't have snow days CreekDog Mar 2015 #23
My studies showed that local coyotes in the Hollywood Hills routinely targeted feral cat colonies underahedgerow Mar 2015 #3
I keep my cats indoors House of Roberts Mar 2015 #4
My wife and I get up at night an accompany our small Papillon pooch outside . . . Journeyman Mar 2015 #5
Keeping pet kitties indoor only is best for all. TDale313 Mar 2015 #6
I had two cats a while back--they went all over the world with me. MADem Mar 2015 #7
I had friends in the suburban hills above San Diego who lost three Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #8
my cats are hostages and have stockholm's and are close to 12 now. + are happy cats. pansypoo53219 Mar 2015 #9
Cougar and coyotes are equal cat fancier in my area newfie11 Mar 2015 #10
I visited my sister in San Diego in the 1970's, and went for a walk Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 #11
I'm not sure a study was needed for this. panader0 Mar 2015 #12
I'll take my chances brooklynite Mar 2015 #13
beware raccoons though geek tragedy Mar 2015 #16
Study showed water is wet allforone Mar 2015 #14
Science often studies things that you notice in the natural environment CreekDog Mar 2015 #37
My dog thinks cats are undeterred Mar 2015 #17
Tis true oldandhappy Mar 2015 #18
Well, duh. hifiguy Mar 2015 #19
since cats are eating like 83 Billion birds every year a lot of them are fat snooper2 Mar 2015 #20
Gosh, I hope Will Pitt doesn't see this KamaAina Mar 2015 #21
Any small house animal or pet in Arizona is ripe to be taken by a coyote or fox. We currently have rladdi Mar 2015 #26
I had 3 cats in Lancaster Ca Politicalboi Mar 2015 #27
Cats are predated by coyotes 1)from dusk to dawn, 2)when the cat is very young, sick, or old, and 3) Gormy Cuss Mar 2015 #30
We were lucky not lose one to a coyote Politicalboi Mar 2015 #38
Coyotes moved into my last neighborhood. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #29
I like coyotes. I don't like them eating our cats. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #32
I have lost a couple of cats to coyotes, but these were feral cats I fed and somewhat tamed Cleita Mar 2015 #33
I love cats, so I don't let one own me. Zorra Mar 2015 #34
I see signs of coyotes on my property daily hack89 Mar 2015 #40

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
2. for the safety of cats and other animals, people should raise cats to be indoors
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:54 AM
Mar 2015

where they will be safer from many dangers.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
24. No, it's not
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:41 PM
Mar 2015

and it's better than the suffering from being eaten by a wild animal, from being injured in a fight or from being attacked, or from being hit by a car.

if you raise them to be solely indoors, they will be happy inside. they are not wild animals, they are domesticated.

 

allforone

(51 posts)
25. Cats need to hunt , to feel grass under their paws, to chase a bird
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:44 PM
Mar 2015

The saddest thing is seeing a cat looking out a window all day every day.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
36. I would never want to own an indoor only cat
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:19 PM
Mar 2015

If they eve got out, they would be terrified and run away possibly. And to never take a dirt bath would be cruel. LOL! They love the sun, the bugs, the grass, the trees. I don't like to see them kill, and if I can intervene I do. I've saved a lot of lizards throughout the years. They are lucky I'm not afraid of them to pick them up to set them free.

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
39. Uh, no, it's not a sad life for a cat
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:21 PM
Mar 2015

The cat won't care if it's chasing rodents or birds or a toy on a string. As long as the cat is getting exercise and play, the cat is going to be happy. Add a cat tree near a window so the cat can climb and watch what's going on in the world, and you have a happy, well adjusted cat. Throw in a companion cat, and it's kitty nirvana, someone to play and fight with in a safe world with regular meals.

If "natural" was always better, we'd never have come down out of the trees. Remember, the life span of a feral cat who survives kittenhood is 3-5 years. My last cat, an indoor beastie, lived to 21. Average lifespan for indoor-outdoor cats is 7.1 years.

Cats are always on the edge of reverting to feral, never completely tame. If indoor only cats were unhappy with their situations, they'd leave.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
3. My studies showed that local coyotes in the Hollywood Hills routinely targeted feral cat colonies
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:07 AM
Mar 2015

in West Hollywood and Beverly Hills. It was a sort of win-win situation. They helped cull the colonies and keep their populations down, and provided a meal now and then for the coyotes, keeping them off the household & domesticated pets.

I've always pushed the spaye/neuter agenda of course, and for keeping cats indoors, all the time. Cats can be so harmful to neighborhoods and small wildlife... I always felt it wasn't fair that neighbors were forced to encounter cat poop in their gardens when they had no cats, when dog poop laws were always a hot button.

House of Roberts

(5,184 posts)
4. I keep my cats indoors
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:10 AM
Mar 2015

because of raccoons and possums. Not many coyotes in Alabama, but we are seeing a lot more armadillos.

Journeyman

(15,039 posts)
5. My wife and I get up at night an accompany our small Papillon pooch outside . . .
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:21 AM
Mar 2015

Coyotes are quick, efficient hunters, and in our neighborhood they're becoming increasingly brazen. We had a pair of them stroll the streets of our community in the early evening hours last summer, and they regularly claim both cats and dogs for their feed. They can scale a six foot fence with ease and they are not afraid of humans. A woman at a local park, with her little dog on a leash, had it torn from her hands a few months back. It was the late afternoon and there were dozens of people and dogs all around her.

We live in their land. I read awhile back that there are as many coyotes here in Southern California today as there were a century ago -- maybe more. They are incredibly adaptive and high resistant to eradication. One local city opened it up for hired-gun trappers to try their hand at removing them, and after a two week probationary period they succeeded in trapping two coyotes.

Keep your animals in as much as possible. Don't leave food or water out in the back yard for your pets. And keep your trash sealed.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
6. Keeping pet kitties indoor only is best for all.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:56 AM
Mar 2015

Indoor cats live longer, healthier lives. They don't disturb local wildlife or non-cat loving neighbors. As a cat lover, I would recommend it if at all possible.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. I had two cats a while back--they went all over the world with me.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:23 AM
Mar 2015

Expensive as hell to bring them along but they were good company.

They both lived to over 20--the vet was amazed at their fitness in their later years.

They rarely went outside, though one of them used to enjoy slipping out the door to the upper verandah and going up on the roof of my villa in Italy--scared the shit out of me more than once.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. I had friends in the suburban hills above San Diego who lost three
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:28 AM
Mar 2015

felines to the coyotes. Found their mangled remains.

I live in a big city and would NEVER allow a cat outdoors, even to walk along the gutters or on the roof.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
10. Cougar and coyotes are equal cat fancier in my area
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 05:08 AM
Mar 2015

The rural SD Black Hills.
Years ago a family moved in from a big city. They were about 5 miles down the road and we stopped to welcome them.
The husband had convinced his wife to finally let her kitty out, as what could possibly hurt him out here.
The story goes, as she sets kitty down to check out its new freedom and their both standing there watching, a brave cougar streaks past. He picks up kitty in one swoop and was gone.
No divorce followed but I'm sure it was talked about.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
11. I visited my sister in San Diego in the 1970's, and went for a walk
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:20 PM
Mar 2015

in one of the many interesting little canyons around there. I was shocked to find assorted parts and pieces of domestic cats along the trail. I assumed it was coyotes at the time. I guess I was right.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
12. I'm not sure a study was needed for this.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:29 PM
Mar 2015

I live in the country and there are many coyotes, howling every evening and morning. We have lost several cats as dinners for them.
The cats wanted to be outside, the smart ones learned to climb the trees or get up on the upstairs porch. Coyotes are very smart
animals. I have heard them imitate a cat's meow to entice them. They disappear into the mesquites in seconds.

brooklynite

(94,736 posts)
13. I'll take my chances
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:32 PM
Mar 2015

My cats love going into the back yard, and coyotes generally can't afford the bridge tolls.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
37. Science often studies things that you notice in the natural environment
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:19 PM
Mar 2015

Should we not study snow because you've already noticed winter is the cold season?

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
17. My dog thinks cats are
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:38 PM
Mar 2015

fancy indoor squirrels. He's half malamute, and I wouldn't trust him off leash around a cat, ever.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
18. Tis true
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:41 PM
Mar 2015

Not a scientific study, but I live in a mobile home park that backs up to an empty track of land and the coyotes walk on the back wall checking for cats and small dogs. One neighbor walks her dog carrying a baseball bat and she has used it! I see this as a common sense thing -- no need for a study!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
19. Well, duh.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:25 PM
Mar 2015

A good friend of mine lives up in the high desert outside of Prescott AZ. He never ever lets his cats out for this very reason. Coyotes look at domestic cats as a snack and nothing else.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
20. since cats are eating like 83 Billion birds every year a lot of them are fat
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:28 PM
Mar 2015

Fat cats not as fast, Coyote be happy belly

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
21. Gosh, I hope Will Pitt doesn't see this
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:29 PM
Mar 2015

He believes that it was a coyote who got his cat buddy Boomer last fall. To my knowledge, he has not acquired another cat, although it is spring.

And I hope the coyotes do not make it to Oakland! The two meow people I sat for in January spend much of their time outdoors.

rladdi

(581 posts)
26. Any small house animal or pet in Arizona is ripe to be taken by a coyote or fox. We currently have
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:48 PM
Mar 2015

4 cats and 2 small dogs missing in the neighborhood. In the early morning you can see them trotting down the sidewalk beside the road.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
27. I had 3 cats in Lancaster Ca
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:51 PM
Mar 2015

With Coyote droppings in our yard, and when we moved we still had 3 cats. Had a cat when I lived in Coarsegold Ca while Coyotes were howling across the street at night. The cat would come in at night, but still be out when dark. The cat still lives there with relatives. Cats are still more likely to get killed by a car than a Coyote. One of my brothers cats got killed by a car on a dirt road. Not one cat lost due to Coyotes.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
30. Cats are predated by coyotes 1)from dusk to dawn, 2)when the cat is very young, sick, or old, and 3)
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:02 PM
Mar 2015

when coyotes are hungry enough to stalk them in broad daylight in areas where coyotes normally wouldn't roam.

IOW, there's ways to mitigate risk but there's no guarantee that an outdoor cat or small dog won't be predated by coyotes.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
38. We were lucky not lose one to a coyote
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:27 PM
Mar 2015

But I would rather see them killed by a coyote than a car. At least a coyote kill will feed a coyote or it's young rather than rot on the side of the road. That may sound cruel, but getting hit by a car doesn't mean sudden death either. At least the coyote is part of the circle of life.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
29. Coyotes moved into my last neighborhood.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:58 PM
Mar 2015

They didn't leave until all raccoons, rabbits, and cats were dead. The silence of the night would end once they cornered an animal. Brutal kills.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
32. I like coyotes. I don't like them eating our cats.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:09 PM
Mar 2015

We have a lot of coyotes around here. When we moved here we had 4 cats. After we lost one, presumably to the coyotes, they became indoor cats. Time and old-age have reduced our flock to one fat&happy indoor cat. The coyotes still serenade us almost every night.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
33. I have lost a couple of cats to coyotes, but these were feral cats I fed and somewhat tamed
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:09 PM
Mar 2015

but that I couldn't bring in at night all the time. However, I have raised other cats to ripe old age, including the one I have now who just turned fourteen with one rule. They come in before sundown and don't go out until after sunrise. Coyotes usually lay low during the day because they don't like the cars and other motor noises humans make while going about their business it seems.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
34. I love cats, so I don't let one own me.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:10 PM
Mar 2015

I could never lock any being up in a box for an extended period of time, and if a cat owned me, I would have no choice but to let them roam free, but then they would kill a lot of birds, and eventually get eaten by a coyote, owl, etc.

Dogs find it much easier to train me on how to teach them how to exist with minimal danger from the human world, enabling them to stay outdoors unfettered.

And smart coyotes generally don't mess with full grown Lab/Shepherds.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
40. I see signs of coyotes on my property daily
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:33 PM
Mar 2015

There is a big pack living in the woods behind my house. Not only are my cats in door cats but we don't even let the dog out unless she is on a leash. Much too dangerous.

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