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kpete

(72,005 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:54 PM Mar 2015

"Give Her A Chance": Elizabeth Warren wants America to hear Hillary Clinton out.

Elizabeth Warren wants America to hear Hillary Clinton out.

Appearing on NBC’s “Today” on Tuesday to promote her new book, the Massachusetts senator said that the former Secretary of State deserves an opportunity to demonstrate how she plans to help the middle class if she decides to run for president.

“I think we need to give her a chance to decide if she’s going to run and to lay out what she wants to run on,” Warren said. “I think that’s her opportunity to do that.”

...............

“I’m not running and I’m not going to run,” Warren said. “I’m in Washington and I’ve got this great job and a chance to try and make a difference on things that really matter.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/31/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clinton_n_6977466.html

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"Give Her A Chance": Elizabeth Warren wants America to hear Hillary Clinton out. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2015 OP
Notice she did not use the past tense zappaman Mar 2015 #1
Jeez she said she is not running and to upaloopa Mar 2015 #2
Pretty sure he's being a smart ass... TDale313 Mar 2015 #5
What we need is Doc Brown, a Delorean, and a flux capacitor. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #6
No worries BainsBane Mar 2015 #22
Haha! Wonder why the poster didn't get what you were doing here? I said almost the same thing Cha Mar 2015 #23
We did in 2008...we rejected it...now a lot of us wish HRC would go the F away. n/t Chan790 Mar 2015 #3
nasty. bitter hate instead of looking at what's at stake if this next Pres is a GOP. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #18
We're all entitled to be nasty. Chan790 Mar 2015 #21
Omg. I cannot even read your disgusting hate. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #24
... Chan790 Mar 2015 #25
Sounds like another DUer for Fiorina. leftofcool Mar 2015 #29
"I despise Hillary and I loathe her supporters" Bookmarked for Pathwalker Mar 2015 #39
Once again, I don't know why people say such idiotic things but point them out to me... Chan790 Apr 2015 #40
I no longer care. 840high Mar 2015 #32
Agreed. She should make way for a candidate who isn't damaged goods. [nt] Jester Messiah Mar 2015 #35
Oh, hey, is it any of our business what she plans for the middle class? djean111 Mar 2015 #4
的 think we need to give her a chance to decide if she痴 going to run" KMOD Mar 2015 #7
With that said, It is Clnton who can afford the team it will take misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #8
Oh no! Andy823 Mar 2015 #9
No one is throwing anyone under any bus. I just do not consider than I would djean111 Mar 2015 #12
I agree Andy823 Mar 2015 #17
How Clinton plans to help the middle class tularetom Mar 2015 #10
So much this! hifiguy Mar 2015 #16
...^ that 840high Mar 2015 #33
The assumption is that we have not SamKnause Mar 2015 #11
Grasping at straws for a Warren endorsement? Really now. Fearless Mar 2015 #13
Please run, Senator Warren LittleBlue Mar 2015 #14
"Listen to her." 99Forever Mar 2015 #15
This is the problem with Hillary. Calista241 Mar 2015 #19
She hasn't spoken as to her platform for this campaign. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #27
Her ratings peaked months ago. It's all downhill morningfog Mar 2015 #37
I don't vote based on what a politician says, so I don't need to hear her out. liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #20
Yeah, but good ones make you believe what they say... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #26
I believed it twice. Not any more. 840high Mar 2015 #34
Cue the throwing Warren under the bus in 5...4...3... n/t Adrahil Mar 2015 #28
Not throwing anyone under the bus. I simply disagree with her on this one. liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #30
的知 not running and I知 not going to," Warren said. 的知 in Washington and I致e got this great job Cha Mar 2015 #31
I can think of few people who've had more chances than Hillary Clinton. Marr Mar 2015 #36
Is there something about Hillary Clinton we don't already know? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #38

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. Jeez she said she is not running and to
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 06:59 PM
Mar 2015

listen to what Hillary has to say.
So that means she is running and Hillary is bad with email systems. Got it!

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
5. Pretty sure he's being a smart ass...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:07 PM
Mar 2015

Cause when Warren was sticking to saying "I'm not running" people pointed out that that is not the same as "I'm not going to run" or "I'm not running in 2016" Now she is saying she's not going to run, so sadly that's pretty clear. I'd be supporting her if she did.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
6. What we need is Doc Brown, a Delorean, and a flux capacitor.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:11 PM
Mar 2015

She said she is not running (present) and not going to run (future).

That doesn't mean she can't go back to 2000 and run against Bush and change everything.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
23. Haha! Wonder why the poster didn't get what you were doing here? I said almost the same thing
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:14 PM
Mar 2015

yesterday in an article where she said she WASN'T running..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6439374

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
18. nasty. bitter hate instead of looking at what's at stake if this next Pres is a GOP.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:24 PM
Mar 2015

The real fight is barely beginning.
I have never believed that Clinton, Warren, O'Malley or any potential DEM campaigners will divide each other.
There is such power in there unity & a place of necessary power for each, and as strategy goes the ONLY way to bring that power & individual passion to the American citizens is to first gain the Presidency.

None will have their chance to offer to this Nation what they believe in if we lose the Presidency.

I believe that unity is their strategy.
And going up against what the GOP has in store for this campaign & the voting system the DEMs will have to beat them together, not separate. Far too much is at stake & they all know it.

I have always believed this to be the case for those DEM leaders invested in 2016.

IMO

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
21. We're all entitled to be nasty.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:07 PM
Mar 2015

Hillary Clinton is as odious to me as Lyndon Larouche, another illiberal perpetual candidate that also ran as a Democrat despite vociferously-opposing Democratic values and ideals. A vote for Hillary is a vote for GOP economic values, FTAs and more bellicose US foreign policy. I despise Hillary and I loathe her supporters. Forever.

I will never make peace with the corporatist enemy in our midst.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
24. Omg. I cannot even read your disgusting hate.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:17 PM
Mar 2015

Big IGNORE to your vile slanderous RW hate speak.

You dont get it do you.
You are so stuck on your broken record you cannot see the battle for 2016 and what any DEM is in store for.

Unlike you, I have always seen the unity in the Dems who are putting themselves out front for the Hard Right to be beaten up.
Perhaps consider what this country loses with a divided coalition.
Because I assure you the Dem leaders in this fight already have prepared themselves as a group to fight for the absolute salvation of America.

Your post is way off the mark with such vile speak.
Bye.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
39. "I despise Hillary and I loathe her supporters" Bookmarked for
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:34 PM
Mar 2015

the next time someone posts that there's no such thing as "Hillary Hate" on DU. You have proven them wrong.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
40. Once again, I don't know why people say such idiotic things but point them out to me...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 07:48 AM
Apr 2015

I'm more than happy to tell them directly that I will never cast a ballot for Hillary Clinton. When I lived in NYC, I refused to vote for her when she was running to be my senator. I'm not going to now either. Ever.

Every day I make a point to say that on here at-least once so that there is no question about it. Hillary is the enemy. Priority #1 for me is opposing her candidacy for President. Everything else pales compared to keeping that corporatist quisling out of the White House. I don't vote for Republicans, even ones running as Democrats like the Clintons and their surrogates.

The Democratic party needs to purge the corporatist scum...some sort of excommunication for DLCers, Third Way and Clintonites. The Bible tells us you can't serve both God and Mammon--I don't believe in God, but I know you can't serve both Humanity and Mammon either...and Hillary made her choice. Same as the Bushes, same as the Koches and the Romneys. She is not on our side...she's Kodos to their Kang. She chose Mammon and the blood-money of Wall Street.

I choose progressivism and humanism. There is no room in a forward-looking, benevolent, humanity-focused society for the likes of the Clintons.

Also, glad to be of help in proving that an angry left exists that will never accept a Clinton candidacy.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. Oh, hey, is it any of our business what she plans for the middle class?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:01 PM
Mar 2015

How the fuck would she still be deciding what she will run on? Waiting to see what the polls say she should say?
Hoping she doesn't have to say anything she has no intention of doing? How does one want to be president for so many years not know what she wants to run on?

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
7. 的 think we need to give her a chance to decide if she痴 going to run"
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:12 PM
Mar 2015

Huh? I thought we already decided this. She has to run, we're not even having a primary. We are coronating her.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
8. With that said, It is Clnton who can afford the team it will take
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:12 PM
Mar 2015

..to beat back the ALEC/Rove Hard & Sleazy Right Wing.
She knows everyone of them & what to expect.
They will throw everything out there to stop her.
She has the money& smarts to compete & outsmart them at their game.
She's seen it all before.
With Clinton as the 2016 President, she can give great people like Warren the position of Treasury Sec or S Court Nominee or wherever Warren prefers to fight her passionate battle.
Truth is Warren & other greats that see a path to stopping the GOP from their destructive move to change America thru exclusion, will have their opportunity to do so as a united force against the hard right in this election.
We all lose if we lose the Presidency.

I truly believe that is their strategy in this 2016 campaign and they all know what's at stake.



 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
12. No one is throwing anyone under any bus. I just do not consider than I would
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:26 PM
Mar 2015

vote for or support anyone I do not like merely because another politician tells me to.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
17. I agree
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 08:07 PM
Mar 2015

But I was talking in general, I was not addressing it to anyone in particular. I myself will not be voting for Hillary in the primary, but no matter who wins the nomination, I will be behind them when it comes time to pick between the democratic nominee and any clown that wins the republican nomination. There is a huge, huge difference between what a democrat would do to help this country, and what a republican would do to destroy this country.

I keep seeing all the crappy bills that republican controlled states are passing, and a lll the crappy bills that the U.S. congress is "trying" to pass now that republicans are in control, and it is a perfect example of how bad things would be if they won in 2016.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. How Clinton plans to help the middle class
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:18 PM
Mar 2015


Reminds me of Nixon's secret plan to end the war in Vietnam - if we nominate Clinton, then she will reveal her agenda.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
13. Grasping at straws for a Warren endorsement? Really now.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:27 PM
Mar 2015

The context of her statement was a SIDE STEP to a question of whether she would endorse Hillary or not!

It is a yes or no question and she responds by saying:

“I think we need to give her a chance to decide if she’s going to run and to lay out what she wants to run on,” Warren said. “I think that’s her opportunity to do that.”

I'd also suggest that it was a backhand to the fact that Hillary's points of view on progressive issues never seem to stay the same and wax and wane with polling numbers.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
15. "Listen to her."
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:33 PM
Mar 2015

With all due respect Senator Warren, we've "listened" to campaign "promises" before. Guess what? Once in office, they quite conveniently get magically forgotten. Personally, I consider her history and whom she associates with, far better indicators of what's she's really all about. I'll give support and vote accordingly.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
27. She hasn't spoken as to her platform for this campaign.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:20 PM
Mar 2015

Her ratings say far different than your post.
I will wait to hear what she actually says.
You may make your one note assumptions.
Bye.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
20. I don't vote based on what a politician says, so I don't need to hear her out.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:05 PM
Mar 2015

Politicians will say anything during a campaign.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
30. Not throwing anyone under the bus. I simply disagree with her on this one.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:30 PM
Mar 2015

I am so grateful to Warren for being strong enough and brave enough to stand up to the banks for us.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
31. 的知 not running and I知 not going to," Warren said. 的知 in Washington and I致e got this great job
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:31 PM
Mar 2015
and a chance to try and make a difference on things that really matter.”

Wow.. you can't get any more clear than that. Thank you, Senator Elizabeth Warren

mahalo kpete
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
36. I can think of few people who've had more chances than Hillary Clinton.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:01 PM
Mar 2015

I think I have a very good idea of where she stands.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
38. Is there something about Hillary Clinton we don't already know?
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 10:12 PM
Mar 2015

Is she poised to stun the American Voting Public with some new foreign or domestic policy speech, outlining positions we'll be surprised by?

Or is she the same Hillary Clinton we've always known?

That's an important question, because if the answer is the latter... yawn.

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