I want to thank the grown ups both here and there

[madokie]

for trying to work this out to the betterment of everyone involved.

disclaimer: If I was Iran I'd be trying to get the bomb as fast as I could just because of the hatred shown to them by israel and the threat they pose.

[RKP5637]

1. Grown ups can broker solutions. Immaturity abounds, those that see war as the first

solution were whiny brats when young throwing tantrums, never growing out of it and also see big profits in war and tensions, and the MIC makes out like bandits. Most republicans walk around like blunderbusses with their heads ready to pop at anytime AKA whiny children looking for $$$$$'s in war and tensions.

[GP6971]

2. My money is on the

47 trying sabotage the deal. Immature with the letter and they'll be immature in their response to the deal.

[still_one]

8. Doesn't matter, this is an international agreement. Obama doesn't need Congress to sign the

agreement

Yes, after his term is over the next president can reverse it, but by that time if the deal holds up it would be the US against the world.

Another reason why we need a Democrat in the WH in 2016, and a Democratic Senate. Then it could result in a treaty

[madokie]

3. Grown ups look for solutions

All I know for sure is, if a person is going to be voting on going to war and haven't been to war themselves then they should be hung out to dry. War sucks, there are no victors, only losers

[RKP5637]

19. K&R! n/t

[seveneyes]

4. Grown Ups have seen and heard Iran express desire to wipe Israel off the map

Haters gonna hate.

[madokie]

5. You live in the same region as Israel and tell me

They are good neighbors. It can't be said with a straight face thats for sure.

[seveneyes]

9. Where did the first blood come from?

As educational as it might be for all involved, we may as well agree to have our own, differing opinions on such matters. Respectfully,

[jimlup]

13. That particular meme has long been discredited

actually. At best it was a poor translation of a statement that was taken out of context for propaganda purposes.

Wiping another Country off the Map: Israel does it to Palestine
| Aug. 1, 2014 |

By Juan Cole
Back when the warmongers had hopes of ginning up a war between the United States and Iran during the Bush administration, one of their propaganda talking points was the Iran had “threatened to wipe Israel off the map.”
When we look at Gaza’s before and after pictures (below) it becomes clear that the charge is more appropriate to Israel itself.
The late Christopher Hitchens, who went off the deep end at the end of his life, joining with the Neoconservatives in hoping for Iran to be so targeted, was furious with me for questioning this underpinning of the war effort.
I pointed out that there is no such idiom in Persian and that the phrase was a quotation from Imam Khomeini in the 1980s, quoted by then president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. What Khomeini had said was “This Occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.” Ahmadinejad said he hoped the Zionist enterprise would collapse just as had the rule of the shah in Iran or that of the Soviet Union. Iran’s then president (who is not head of the armed forces) had no authority to order tanks to roll on Israel. There were several countries in between, so Iran cannot attack Israel militarily even if it wanted to. Israeli fighter jets would make mince meat of a conventional Iranian invasion, and anyway Israel has several hundred atomic bombs, which are rather a deterrent.

http://www.juancole.com/2014/08/another-country-palestine.html

[seveneyes]

15. And "Death to America" was a call to peace

Revisions are best left for dealing with malfunctioning software. And I'm sure Iran's denial of the Holocaust is just as redeemable.

[jimlup]

16. That's a strawman argument and you know it

[seveneyes]

17. strawmen arguments are used quite often in software design and debug

The human mind is soft. We must harden it to all challenges.

[malaise]

22. Strange it looks like Palestine will be off the map

Who's responsible for that again?

Some of us take words seriously - "...from the Tigress to the Euphrates..."
Whose plan is that again?

[still_one]

6. First of all the deal is a good thing. However, perhaps your disclaimer doesn't quite remember what

Iran under Achmaendinjan(sic) threatened Israel with annialation

I suspect there are saner people on both sides

[840high]

10. I remember.

[Cha]

7. 2004: Keynote speaker & Presidential nominee 2015: President & Sec of State on historic breakthrough

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2004: Keynote speaker & Presidential nominee
2015: Pres & Sec of State, on brink of historic breakthrough

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http://theobamadiary.com/2015/04/02/progress-11/

The Grownups! mahalo madokie

[Vattel]

11. I think the leaders of Iran have shown plenty of hatred towards Israel.

They have stated that they want Israel annihilated, for example, and they have supported terrorism against Israel.

[840high]

12. Yes.

[still_one]

14. That is why the OP loses its effectiveness, and by first saying the grownups are in charge, and them

An immature disclaimer

[randome]

20. And Israel has said there will never be a 2-state solution.

Sure, Bibi 'took it back' to use an equally childish phrase as his initial one. But Israel's actions back up that viewpoint. The only difference between Iran and Israel is that Israel -usually- keeps its mouth shut. The effect is the same -apartheid and land grabs.
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[Cha]

18. Tweet pic.. someone else likes to thank the adults in Charge, too, madokie..

J @simplyj_6
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"@johnvmoore: I'm so glad the adults are in charge. pic.twitter.com/UEXMXwU3VZ"
5:39 PM - 2 Apr 2015 6 Retweets 7 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/04/02/are-you-ready-for-more-mom-dancing-yes/

[malaise]

21. K & R