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Both my R Senators voted against it.
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)benefit from this excellent program also?
Maybe we need to change our strategy and start contacting them and their voters regarding issues like this.
Money talks, even at the level of someone who is dependent on SS.
Let them know their party is refusing to give them some extra money, which they EARNED.
Good for all the Dems who support this.
forest444
(5,902 posts)They'll never know it; but our tea-bag friends are a living testament to the powers of brainwashing.
Qué será.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)didn't KNOW certain things. Eg, one Right Wing female I was talking to on another forum a few years ago who was pretty civil, tried to convince ME that 'Liberals are not informed and I should listen to Glenn Beck about the 'Socialist programs Liberals are so fond of'.
So I asked her if she knew that the Military was one of the largest Social Programs ever and did she mean she would like to eliminate Veterans Benefits. I also asked her if anyone in her family was receiving SS, mother, father, grandparents, and if she didn't think they should taking those benefits.
To make a long story short, she had no idea what Beck was talking about but assumed it was about some OTHER programs Liberals were getting.
To her credit after I explained, she said she did NOT want SS to be eliminated that it was a good program, and yes, members of her family were receiving it. And she almost had apoplexy at the thought of cutting Veterans Benefits. She said 'I didn't realize those were Social programs'.
So I think there is hope for some people who have been 'educated' by the Right Wing noise machine. Eg, that woman would not be happy at all to learn that Republicans are refusing to give her Grandmother a little more of her earned SS benefits.
Ignorance can be cured, stupidity and cultism is another matter.
forest444
(5,902 posts)Social protections for me; but not for thee.
But you did get through to her; and that's certainly something. Not easy at all.
Thanks for sharing, Sabrina. Have a good night.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)If you keep asking them questions and giving them facts rather than calling them names and ridiculing them you might actually get through to them and show them that the Glenn Becks and Sean Hannities of this world are lying to them.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Did she abstain, or vote against?
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)Gillibrand and Schumer!
midnight
(26,624 posts)turbinetree
(24,720 posts)to Cardin where was the little firebrand Mikulski, she will be missed, but I strongly think we will get another firebrand to fill those shoes----and a progressive woman at that----Donna Edwards ---she got my vote
Now as side note, which needs to be brought forth and here it is :
"March 26, 2015
News Release
Legislation introduced in the House by Rep. John Delaney (D-MD) would create a Social Security Commission designed to fast-track reforms and insulate Members of Congress from the public backlash over harmful benefit cuts that co-sponsor Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) says the commission will consider, including: raising the retirement age, means testing and the Chained CPI.
NCPSSM President/CEO, Max Richtman, expressed the National Committees opposition to the legislation in a letter to Rep. John Delaney
:
We are troubled that H.R. 1578 takes several steps to circumvent a deliberative public process, limiting the participation of Social Security stakeholders and advocates. For example, the Committees of jurisdiction over the Social Security program the Senate Committee on Finance and the House Committee on Ways and Means would have limited input in the development of the Commissions recommendations. Under fast track procedural rules in your bill, the legislation embodying the Commissions recommendations would be considered by Congress on an expedited, take-it-or-leave-it basis. No amendments to the Commissions bill could be offered and it could be passed in both the House and Senate by a simple majority vote. Normally, Section 310(g) of the Budget Act and the Senates Byrd rule require 60 votes in the Senate to approve legislation which changes Social Security.
The National Committee believes limiting the ability of stakeholders to shape the debate would insulate lawmakers from the devastating effect benefit cut proposals would have on retirees, workers with disabilities and survivors.
So if anyone truly thinks that this matter is settled----think U.S. Postal Offices in 2006 when Delay and Hassert did this voice vote to bankrupt this agency and it passed on that procedure , no public input no committee hearings ----nothing , but attack the postal union and its structure , by forcing them to fund there retirement of the employees pension fund to the tune of 5 billion a year for 75 years into the future, even before they hired new individuals to work there in the future---no corporation have had to do this so why the postal union employees---because two reps hold stock in the right to work less stock they belong too and too the right to work for less corporations and its mantra of bigotry as said in Vance Muse words in 1930 in Texas and has expanded it today in such states as Wisconsin and Indiana and other states of bigotry.
This is what Cole and Delaney want to do to our Social Security------and its time to pull a Indiana on them both----this is just another from of bigotry and discrimination to us all, I have been means tested for over 48 years and my generation has been paying for those when it began(1935-1954 and those of us born in the early fifties up until now----double whammy).
These two hypocrites will whine and say there no money in the trust and its being spent that's a lie, and as for it being short by 2035 all they have to do is release the cap on those human being making over 118,000 in salary to continue paying there fair share and repealing the tax from 6.2% to 4.5 % in the paycheck----that solves the trust funding----we don't need bankster or a private hedge fund charging us fees so they can have access to our earned money----nope I trust the agency running the fund now, they have always give out the checks----always----the banks are the ones with two books and they fail when they do
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)former9thward
(32,077 posts)Very odd.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"To establish a deficit-neutral reserve fund relating to expanding social security."
former9thward
(32,077 posts)What does "expanding social security" mean??? Please be specific as to what the Senators who voted for it meant. In numbers.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)The Bill has NO chance of passing.
The Democrats will support any Liberal policy....
provided it has no chance of passing.
That makes for good campaign fodder.
Rotating Villain
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/
I wonder why they didn't do this when they held majorities in both houses, and a filibuster proof majority for a month or so in the Senate.
former9thward
(32,077 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)As usual.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Parties matter.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Have to look into it and see why Feinstein's not on that list.
Paper Roses
(7,475 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)I was told they wanted to destroy SS. Puzzling.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Thus it should not be puzzling, it should be elucidating. A mixed bag, a muddled message.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Both voted for it but then they're Dems. I'll thank them.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)says they will eventually cave just like they have on food stamps and WIC. Maybe, just maybe there are enough baby boomers that the Dems truly are afraid of not being voted for if they agree to cut SS. We shall see.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Yay!