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Thank the 42 Senators who want to expand Social Security (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2015 OP
Missed the R's, maybe my eyes are failing. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #1
Thank you for posting that. Not one Republican no? Don't their constituents pay into and sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #2
Reich-wingers certainly do pay into Social Security - but try telling them that. forest444 Apr 2015 #12
I have told them a few things. I was pretty astonished to find out that some of them actually sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #13
Ah, yes. The right-winger's hypocrisy: forest444 Apr 2015 #15
A lot of the voters are not actual hypocrites, they have been disinformed. cui bono Apr 2015 #28
Where's Feinstein ??? WillyT Apr 2015 #3
she abstained from voting. YOHABLO Apr 2015 #5
Thanks... WillyT Apr 2015 #7
Why? n/t aggiesal Apr 2015 #10
Dianne Feinstein is missing. Shame on her. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #4
Thank You! Liberalynn Apr 2015 #6
Thanks for posting the names. midnight Apr 2015 #8
Thanks turbinetree Apr 2015 #9
Both of my Senators are on the list. Yeah. I will send them a thanks. nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #11
Except no one said how they wanted to "expand" it. former9thward Apr 2015 #14
Yes they did, exactly that. Statement of purpose on the amendment is as follows: Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #20
LOL former9thward Apr 2015 #22
That doesn't matter. bvar22 Apr 2015 #23
The best answer in the thread.... former9thward Apr 2015 #24
Excellent perspectvie. cui bono Apr 2015 #30
Got a D senator and an R senator in Ohio. One is on there. No surprise which one! pampango Apr 2015 #16
I got two D Senators and have the same result! cui bono Apr 2015 #26
Thank you Senators Warren and Markey. n/t Paper Roses Apr 2015 #17
Includes Third Way members Coons, Shaheen, Manchin and McCaskill brooklynite Apr 2015 #18
And the only two Democrats who voted Nay are Heitkamp and Carper of Third Way... Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #21
yay for ny - LiberalElite Apr 2015 #19
Hm... I don't see my Sen. Feinstein on that list. cui bono Apr 2015 #25
Both of mine did, D-NM, Tom Udall and Martin Heinrich! Thank You! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #27
I want to believe they are turning left and really truly hope they are. The skeptical side of me liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #29
my Senator, blue dog Nelson is on that list! nt steve2470 Apr 2015 #31
Warren and Markey for me~ sheshe2 Apr 2015 #32

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
2. Thank you for posting that. Not one Republican no? Don't their constituents pay into and
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:08 PM
Apr 2015

benefit from this excellent program also?

Maybe we need to change our strategy and start contacting them and their voters regarding issues like this.

Money talks, even at the level of someone who is dependent on SS.

Let them know their party is refusing to give them some extra money, which they EARNED.

Good for all the Dems who support this.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
12. Reich-wingers certainly do pay into Social Security - but try telling them that.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:55 AM
Apr 2015

They'll never know it; but our tea-bag friends are a living testament to the powers of brainwashing.

Qué será.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
13. I have told them a few things. I was pretty astonished to find out that some of them actually
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:34 AM
Apr 2015

didn't KNOW certain things. Eg, one Right Wing female I was talking to on another forum a few years ago who was pretty civil, tried to convince ME that 'Liberals are not informed and I should listen to Glenn Beck about the 'Socialist programs Liberals are so fond of'.

So I asked her if she knew that the Military was one of the largest Social Programs ever and did she mean she would like to eliminate Veterans Benefits. I also asked her if anyone in her family was receiving SS, mother, father, grandparents, and if she didn't think they should taking those benefits.

To make a long story short, she had no idea what Beck was talking about but assumed it was about some OTHER programs Liberals were getting.

To her credit after I explained, she said she did NOT want SS to be eliminated that it was a good program, and yes, members of her family were receiving it. And she almost had apoplexy at the thought of cutting Veterans Benefits. She said 'I didn't realize those were Social programs'.

So I think there is hope for some people who have been 'educated' by the Right Wing noise machine. Eg, that woman would not be happy at all to learn that Republicans are refusing to give her Grandmother a little more of her earned SS benefits.

Ignorance can be cured, stupidity and cultism is another matter.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
15. Ah, yes. The right-winger's hypocrisy:
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 02:05 AM
Apr 2015

Social protections for me; but not for thee.

But you did get through to her; and that's certainly something. Not easy at all.

Thanks for sharing, Sabrina. Have a good night.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
28. A lot of the voters are not actual hypocrites, they have been disinformed.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:52 PM
Apr 2015

If you keep asking them questions and giving them facts rather than calling them names and ridiculing them you might actually get through to them and show them that the Glenn Becks and Sean Hannities of this world are lying to them.

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
9. Thanks
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:20 AM
Apr 2015

to Cardin where was the little firebrand Mikulski, she will be missed, but I strongly think we will get another firebrand to fill those shoes----and a progressive woman at that----Donna Edwards ---she got my vote

Now as side note, which needs to be brought forth and here it is :

"March 26, 2015


News Release


Legislation introduced in the House by Rep. John Delaney (D-MD) would create a Social Security Commission designed to fast-track reforms and insulate Members of Congress from the public backlash over harmful benefit cuts that co-sponsor Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) says the commission will consider, including: raising the retirement age, means testing and the Chained CPI.


NCPSSM President/CEO, Max Richtman, expressed the National Committee’s opposition to the legislation in a letter to Rep. John Delaney
:

“We are troubled that H.R. 1578 takes several steps to circumvent a deliberative public process, limiting the participation of Social Security stakeholders and advocates. For example, the Committees of jurisdiction over the Social Security program — the Senate Committee on Finance and the House Committee on Ways and Means — would have limited input in the development of the Commission’s recommendations. Under “fast track” procedural rules in your bill, the legislation embodying the Commission’s recommendations would be considered by Congress on an expedited, “take-it-or-leave-it” basis. No amendments to the Commission’s bill could be offered and it could be passed in both the House and Senate by a simple majority vote. Normally, Section 310(g) of the Budget Act and the Senate’s “Byrd rule” require 60 votes in the Senate to approve legislation which changes Social Security.


The National Committee believes limiting the ability of stakeholders to shape the debate would insulate lawmakers from the devastating effect benefit cut proposals would have on retirees, workers with disabilities and survivors.”


So if anyone truly thinks that this matter is settled----think U.S. Postal Offices in 2006 when Delay and Hassert did this voice vote to bankrupt this agency and it passed on that procedure , no public input no committee hearings ----nothing , but attack the postal union and its structure , by forcing them to fund there retirement of the employees pension fund to the tune of 5 billion a year for 75 years into the future, even before they hired new individuals to work there in the future---no corporation have had to do this so why the postal union employees---because two reps hold stock in the right to work less stock they belong too and too the right to work for less corporations and its mantra of bigotry as said in Vance Muse words in 1930 in Texas and has expanded it today in such states as Wisconsin and Indiana and other states of bigotry.
This is what Cole and Delaney want to do to our Social Security------and its time to pull a Indiana on them both----this is just another from of bigotry and discrimination to us all, I have been means tested for over 48 years and my generation has been paying for those when it began(1935-1954 and those of us born in the early fifties up until now----double whammy).
These two hypocrites will whine and say there no money in the trust and its being spent that's a lie, and as for it being short by 2035 all they have to do is release the cap on those human being making over 118,000 in salary to continue paying there fair share and repealing the tax from 6.2% to 4.5 % in the paycheck----that solves the trust funding----we don't need bankster or a private hedge fund charging us fees so they can have access to our earned money----nope I trust the agency running the fund now, they have always give out the checks----always----the banks are the ones with two books and they fail when they do

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. Yes they did, exactly that. Statement of purpose on the amendment is as follows:
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:23 AM
Apr 2015

"To establish a deficit-neutral reserve fund relating to expanding social security."

former9thward

(32,077 posts)
22. LOL
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 11:59 AM
Apr 2015

What does "expanding social security" mean??? Please be specific as to what the Senators who voted for it meant. In numbers.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. That doesn't matter.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:06 PM
Apr 2015

The Bill has NO chance of passing.
The Democrats will support any Liberal policy....
provided it has no chance of passing.
That makes for good campaign fodder.

Rotating Villain
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/


I wonder why they didn't do this when they held majorities in both houses, and a filibuster proof majority for a month or so in the Senate.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
26. I got two D Senators and have the same result!
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:46 PM
Apr 2015

Have to look into it and see why Feinstein's not on that list.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
18. Includes Third Way members Coons, Shaheen, Manchin and McCaskill
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 07:55 AM
Apr 2015

I was told they wanted to destroy SS. Puzzling.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. And the only two Democrats who voted Nay are Heitkamp and Carper of Third Way...
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:28 AM
Apr 2015

Thus it should not be puzzling, it should be elucidating. A mixed bag, a muddled message.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
29. I want to believe they are turning left and really truly hope they are. The skeptical side of me
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:52 PM
Apr 2015

says they will eventually cave just like they have on food stamps and WIC. Maybe, just maybe there are enough baby boomers that the Dems truly are afraid of not being voted for if they agree to cut SS. We shall see.

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