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derby378

(30,252 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:39 PM Apr 2015

It's in the hands of the jury now, and the suspense is killing me

Will Dzohar Tsarnayev be found guilty, or will the jury instead find him guilty?

Heck, even his own defense is saying he's guilty as sin. This is just a dog and pony show in preparation for the penalty phase.

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It's in the hands of the jury now, and the suspense is killing me (Original Post) derby378 Apr 2015 OP
As far as I am concerned he should get life in prison. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #1
Yep, in a Supermax. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #2
That's a horrible place zipplewrath Apr 2015 #5
That's one reason I oppose the death penalty Ms. Yertle Apr 2015 #8
They're made for each other. n/t TheCowsCameHome Apr 2015 #10
That would be fine with me derby378 Apr 2015 #4
The only surprise here will be if he gets the death penalty or not. Chemisse Apr 2015 #3
I'm opposed to the death penalty. cwydro Apr 2015 #7
Same here pipi_k Apr 2015 #19
Plenty of DUers think life in Supermax is too harsh for this guy. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #6
Yeah. cwydro Apr 2015 #9
I think it's too harsh for anyone. alarimer Apr 2015 #14
I agree Bettie Apr 2015 #17
It's too harsh for anyone, yes. Orsino Apr 2015 #18
He was so young. How could an 18 yr old do this?That is a rhetorical question uppityperson Apr 2015 #11
Unfortunately, it's not that hard to do derby378 Apr 2015 #12
I think teenagers can be very susceptible to manipulation Marrah_G Apr 2015 #13
Very likely. Adrahil Apr 2015 #16
I oppose the death penalty... so life, no release, super max. Adrahil Apr 2015 #15

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. That's a horrible place
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:57 PM
Apr 2015

Death might be better.
It is hard to figure out what to do with young people who make such horrible decisions. Especially ones like this that may not have been doing much of their own thinking. The damage this person has done is almost incalculable. Punishment will be unending until death, which in this case could end up being 60 years or more. One wishes that there was someway to make use of such a person, instead of just making one more "victim" of this horrible crime.

Ms. Yertle

(466 posts)
8. That's one reason I oppose the death penalty
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:07 PM
Apr 2015

It's way too easy on those who commit the most heinous crimes. He deserves to wake up every morning for the next 60 years and spend the entire dayREGRETTING killing four people and maiming countless others.

He is not a victim.

When I was his age, I knew enough not to blow people up. I bet you did, too.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
4. That would be fine with me
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:56 PM
Apr 2015

Chances are he'd get a cell in ADX Florence. 23 hours of solitary every day, and if you're lucky enough to score a cell with a TV, there's not much on, I understand. A very quiet, sterile, and boring place to spend the rest of your life.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
3. The only surprise here will be if he gets the death penalty or not.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:51 PM
Apr 2015

His guilt has already been conceded.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
19. Same here
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:30 AM
Apr 2015

I don't support the DP but I'm not going to feel sorry for him if he gets it. All I have to do is think of that little 8 year old boy (I can't even look at his picture on TV) and I think of my grandson who was around the same age when the bombing happened.

Nope. No pity for the guy.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
14. I think it's too harsh for anyone.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:09 AM
Apr 2015

It is inhumane. In my opinion, we need to look to the Scandinavian countries for true justice and not vengeance, which is all our "justice" system is for.

It is barbaric. Americans are generally barbaric, though, in every sense of the word. From the dehumanizing words we use to refer to criminals, to the way they are paraded through the media and, finally, to the way they are treated once incarcerated. Solitary confinement turns people into animals. The science is clear on this and we should be above this sort of vengeance, even for the worst of the worst.

In addition, there is no way this could ever have been a "fair" trial. And no way the punishment phase will even be fair at all. This trial should have been moved from the outset. It is ridiculous that it wasn't.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
18. It's too harsh for anyone, yes.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:18 AM
Apr 2015

The American penal system offers few humane options, and privatization only makes things worse for inmates.

uppityperson

(115,679 posts)
11. He was so young. How could an 18 yr old do this?That is a rhetorical question
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:07 PM
Apr 2015

it is beyond my comprehension not only how could someone do this, but an 18 yr old. He was a kid. Killing and injuring so many others.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
12. Unfortunately, it's not that hard to do
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:50 AM
Apr 2015

Dzohar may have been egged on by al-Qaeda literature, but in the end, he made a choice. An adult-caliber choice to take the lives of innocent people. And now he's about to face the consequences.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
13. I think teenagers can be very susceptible to manipulation
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:54 AM
Apr 2015

I think had his brother not been in his life and if he had better parents this never would have happened.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
15. I oppose the death penalty... so life, no release, super max.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:13 AM
Apr 2015

But damn, if I ever was tempted to support the death penalty, now would be it.

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