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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe most amazing thing about the 150th anniversary of the end of the American Civil War
lack of coverage from the corporate media and their hacks. They remember every other war every fugging year - why isn't this a major event this week?
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121406/civil-war-150th-anniversary-confederacy-defeat-should-be-holiday
It should be a National Holiday and all should re-enact by burning their fugging flag.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)believes that that the wrong side won. The media cowards know that they would have only a few options. They could portray the civil war as it happened, which would upset those invested in the idea that the South were fighting for a noble cause. They could portray it in a "gone with the wind" style, which would naturally be offensive to African Americans and other people with a passing familiarity with history. They can try and do both, which would probably piss off everybody. Or they can duck the issue in a cowardly style.
So what will the media cowards do?
Bryant
malaise
(269,144 posts)And yes they are cowards
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I live in the south and I've regularly heard the argument that the Confederacy was fighting for Freedom against the growing power of the Federal Government. You can throw a monkeywrench in that argument if you ask them "Yes, but the freedom to do what? What specific freedom did they feel that the election of Lincoln would take away?" (They will then do backflips to avoid saying "The Freedom to own other people).
I think allowing the South to believe that the Confederacy was some sort of noble failure or that they were victimized has caused so many problems in this nation that I don't know where to start categorizing them.
But the rotten fruit from that decision is all around us, and part of that is that the media won't talk about the Civil War in an honest and accurate way.
bryant
rurallib
(62,433 posts)so maybe they are just acknowledging that?
eShirl
(18,496 posts)malaise
(269,144 posts)You lost scumbags - get over it.
cali
(114,904 posts)and it should be a holiday. Also a ceremony with the President at the Lincoln Memorial would be great.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Their 'sore loser' mentality has been handed down through the generations and it continues to divide this country.
We absolutely should be celebrating the end of that horrific war.
I understand
Avalux
(35,015 posts)My great-great-great (not sure how many) grandfather and family lived on a farm in Gettysburg, the Trostle Farm.
Unfortunately, their home ended up being ground zero and they had to flee (as the story goes, they left food on the table). The house was used as a hospital; General Sickles lost his leg there.
When the family returned, they found a huge mess and their orchards were destroyed. They petitioned the government for 8k in damages and never got a penny so they sold it, then packed up and moved north. Very sad.
The house and barn (complete with cannonball holes) are still standing and a popular tourist attraction.
Here are original photos of the house and barn after the battle (July 6, 1863):
How the farm looks now:
http://gettysburg.stonesentinels.com/battlefield-farms/trostle-farm/
malaise
(269,144 posts)Fascinating - thanks!
kwassa
(23,340 posts)First Maine Cavalry serving as courier for the Pennsylvania Bucktails fighting a retreating action to delay the Confederate forces. First day of the battle.
at Little Roundtop?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)There was no shelter except rail fences.
60-70% casualties, my great-grandfather was the last man on a horse. These were usually the first targets because it was usually commanding officers on horses. Col. Roy Stone was shot out of his saddle partway through the battle.
This delaying action gave time to other Union units to take the high ground, which eventually won them the battle.
From what I can piece together, they retreated through the town of Gettysburg, and up onto Cemetery Ridge. With such high casualties, they went out of action, but the reformed units were the third line of defense at Pickett's Charge, which meant they didn't fight, probably, but saw everything in the final deciding action of the battle.
edhopper
(33,604 posts)I visited the battlefield and it is amazing how close it could have gone the other way.
It was very much a "for want of a nail..." situation.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)I was surprised Cemetery Ridge was just this little bump in the ground.
Reading Civil War history is really depressing, as many of the battles are decided by really bad leadership that results in massive and stupid death totals. Particularly in the Union army, until they finally got their act together.
The tactics of pre-firearm armies against rifles and canons. Large advances in open fields.
I think re-enactors just sanatize it and try to make the foolhardy noble.
And I can't stand how it is glorified in the South.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)by the myth of the "Lost Cause" and by legal and extra-legal terrorism that took away the recently-granted rights of black Americans, their disenfranchisement and continued subjugation for the next 100 years. The historical results are still with us.
indie9197
(509 posts)My great-great grandfather got his leg blown off below the knee at that battle. He was taken prisoner and spent the rest of the war in a floating prison in New York harbor. He made it back to North Carolina after the war and lived a long life. Am pretty sure he didn't enjoy telling war stories.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)The last, on the end of the war, came out about a week ago. There was a very sobering article about how the gains of the war were undone by Reconstruction.
I'll have a look
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,135 posts)malaise
(269,144 posts)Sweet
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)With words and guns and in law. Disgusting.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Notice how the master of air takes down the ogre, splendid technique.