A red arrow...

[boston bean]

holy shit, a RED Arrow!

[cali]

1. I don't have a problem with her campaign logo

seems fine to me.

[boston bean]

3. phew... I can rest easy! LOL

[cali]

15. sooo glad to help you out, bean old girl.

[boston bean]

33. We gonna have some fun!!!!

[Katashi_itto]

38. Maybe this

[joshcryer]

2. Take back the red!

Red stands for the left in literally every other country than the US. The Democrats were rebranded to "blue" in the 2000 elections, because the MSM wanted to change things up.

[boston bean]

5. Really, didn't know that! But still... a red arrow!

I need to put on my tin foil hat to reflect the rays that logo is putting out!

[joshcryer]

9. It's like 32% blue, 32% white, 36% red.

Oh the horrors.

But yeah, "red" is literally the color of the left in practically every other country.

You'll note some DUers here lamenting "redbaiting" on this forum (just use Google). They may be the same posters lamenting the "red arrow." I can't say for sure as I don't take it that seriously.

[EL34x4]

35. Traditionally, the incumbent party was blue

And in 2000, the Democrats were the incumbent party. For some reason, the colors just remained ever since. Funny, many Repubs hate being the "red" party!

[joshcryer]

36. Campaign paraphernalia is all red white and blue these days anyway.

It's hard to even differentiate.

But that's an interesting thing, DW-NOMINATE / Voteview always makes Democrats red and Republicans blue so I assumed that's how it was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#Origins_of_the_color_scheme

Going by this I think the issue is sort of muddled.

The alternating scheme between incumbents and not seems to have only taken hold for a decade or so with the advent of color television, after that it was arbitrary until 2000 at which point it appears that the current color scheme took hold. Just skimming the Wikipedia article because I was interested in your argument, I don't know the veracity of anything here.

I just know that the left is represented by red pretty much everywhere else but the US.

[EL34x4]

41. Interesting. I stand corrected.

I had read somewhere that blue was used for incumbents. Looks like this was never the case at all.

[KittyWampus]

4. How about a red celtic knot? A red heart. A red middle finger.

Just being silly on Monday morning.

[mother earth]

6. It should be a dollar sign, several in fact. $$$ since we will have two oligarchy candidates, they

may as well BOTH use it.

No doubt I'll be flamed & charcoal broiled, but where's the victory? Again, we have a slow road vs. the fast road to more servitude to the oligarchs. But hey, we've got a gov't subsidized health care, so we thank thee for the crumbs.

Not a word on TPP from Hillary, and it's game on...both sides set to spend billions while main stre et is in decline. Let's all go shopping.

[boston bean]

7. I know the red arrow logo is frightening! LOL

[mother earth]

8. Not at all. What is frightening is the acceptance of no choice, the Oligarchs are pleased. nt

[boston bean]

10. LOL... There will be a primary...

[mother earth]

21. Let's hope so, a coronation is so tacky, but let's face it money is the ruling party. nt

[boston bean]

23. You can't be criticizing something that hasn't happened and be using it as some kind of

bludgeon.

If she has no challengers in the primary... well then I think it would be a fair criticism. But we have to wait just a little bit, don't you think?

[KittyWampus]

12. I'm feeling kind of cynical today (it's MONDAY MORNING PEOPLE) so a red dollar sign

would probably be most appropriate.

And that is meant as a comment on the whole damned system

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. ROFL...I've also read this morning that it's now a "corporate logo."

Evil corporate logo!!!!



It's nutso time on DU.

[KittyWampus]

13. Eat More Hillary And Get Smarter!

[SidDithers]

14. Can you believe this shit on Day 1 of the Hillary candidacy?...

I think I'm gonna have to pull the joker back out.



Sid

[HereSince1628]

16. If nothing was wrong with it, why are the ads on DU no longer showing a red arrow?

Seems that Team Hillary for America has already made a change.

What was that about? Are there multiple designs of her logo being worked out by crowd-sourcing?

[justiceischeap]

17. It's about balance and the way American's read...

from left to right, not right to left.

Simply put, the arrow is pointing to the right, because it points to the text. Nothing nefarious, no hidden meaning or agenda.



Whether the logo is well-designed or not, you can guarantee it has been tested and focus grouped to death because a logo in this environment is not going to be left up to chance.

The company I work for is not doing anything "important" in the grand scheme of life but we're still doing a focus group test with our customer base this week on our new website design (and I'd venture a guess that most people have never heard of us and never will).

[boston bean]

20. I'm not the one needing convincing of just how stupid this red arrow thing is... LOL

[justiceischeap]

22. Oh, I know

but I figured better this thread than the various others. I'm not going to get into "serious" debate over the friggin' logo when her stance on the issues matter so much more.

[boston bean]

25. It's just indicative of how far some will go to criticize and then wonder why like lost babes in the

woods, why anyone would think their criticism wasn't based on something constructive.

[gollygee]

28. Yep

It is obviously not really about the logo. If Warren had an E with a red arrow as part of the E pointing right, it would be proof of how competent she is.

[justiceischeap]

31. I try not to see sexism in everything but I have to wonder if this isn't somehow tied into it

I mean, to me it smacks of "Who designed your dress?"

[boston bean]

34. I don't know..

But it is mostly those who feel that fighting for their income equality is the only thing that matters.. and things like feminism and civil rights are dividing us democrats...

It's a strange world view to me. I see it in the MRA world and from the right... but is surprising to find those thoughts arguments here... and most of those persons who feel it is only their income that is important who are the most vocal against Hillary..

[gollygee]

18. I'm trying to decide

if the outrage over this arrow is the stupidest thing I've ever read on DU or not. There's been other silly stuff from time to time, but I don't know if anything else as ridiculous has gotten this much attention.

[DrDan]

19. a red white and blue logo . . . omg . . . how could she?

is she not aware of the heartache and heartbreak this causes on DU?

and an ARROW, for heaven's sake. An absolute in-your-face blow to NA-relations. AND pointing forward . . . jeez-louise what are they thinking?

How could her campaign NOT preview their thoughts here before an announcement????

[AngryAmish]

24. oh my god, the incredible hate in michigan....

[gollygee]

26. LOL

I drive on it often. I must be a hater.

[boston bean]

27. That arrow is pointing up... what do you think it could mean?

[gollygee]

29. We want inflation to increase

OBVIOUSLY!

[boston bean]

32. or pointing up in support of the 1%... Hell, I can't keep my arrows straight...

woops that one is still pointing right!!!!! dagnabbit!

[AngryAmish]

30. chill8ng

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. Several Red Arrows ...

[brush]

39. I'm sure there was discussion in her campaign on the arrow . . .

whether it was pointing forward or right, and the color of it.

There had to be some mention that some would see the arrow as pointing right and with the red color of it maybe 'dog whistling' to the right, but they went with it anyway because many would see it as just a blue "H" with a forward point red arrow for the crossbar.

Let's wait and see whether they can have it both ways or if this is the first big blunder of the campaign season.

If they have to change it we can chalk it up as a blunder and another unforced error like the personal email server.

[randome]

40. The 'H' stands for 'hairdo' and the arrow means progressive hairdos and pantsuits.

I know because I had this dream last night...
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[djean111]

42. Grocery shopping yesterday. Looking in the freezer section. Atkins Diet logo.

I don't know if I can copy it here, but I googled Atkins logo - and yeah. I don't really care about the logo one way or the other, but Hillary's logo will always remind me of net carbs.

[Bluenorthwest]

43. Logogate prompted me to read some right wing views on Obama's logo.

It's amazing. It's so similar to some DU posts.