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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNate Silver: "Get ready for an extremely competitive election."
Finally we can look at what the polls say right now. If youre going to do this, you should take the polls with whole tablespoons full of salt. And its probably best to look at the favorability ratings for each candidate rather than head-to-head polls, since favorability polls allow voters to say they dont know enough about the candidates to have formulated an opinion. (Head-to-head polls taken this far out from the election will tend to favor candidates like Clinton with strong name recognition, by contrast.)
In the chart below, Ive compiled favorability rating averages for each candidate based on polls conducted since Jan. 1.6 The chart plots the candidates in two dimensions: the vertical axis indicates how popular the candidate is (how much the candidates favorable rating exceeds his or her unfavorable rating) while the horizontal axis plots how well-known the candidate is.
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Clintons ratings are down sharply from her tenure as Secretary of State. However, as weve been warning Democrats for a long time, a lot of this was predictable. Clintons numbers have often been about break-even when shes been a highly partisan figure during the early stages of the 2008 campaign, for example and better only when shes been above the fray of day-to-day partisan politics.
Break-even favorability ratings dont look so bad, however, when compared to some of the alternatives. Vice President Bidens are net-negative, for instance. On the Republican side, Walker and Marco Rubio arent all that well-known yet, but their ratings are also about break-even. Chris Christies are terrible (28 percent favorable, 46 percent unfavorable). Jeb Bushs are quite poor too. His unfavorable rating is already as high as Clintons, 45 percent, but his favorable rating is just 31 percent.7
THE WHOLE ARTICLE: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-begins-the-2016-campaign-and-its-a-toss-up/
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It looks like the more well known they are the lower their favorability drops. Perhaps we should make more room for them to talk and ask them a lot of questions. Like how do you feel about people being insured now and not dying because now they can afford medical care? How do you feel about thousands of clinics closing and impacting a woman's ability to get a safe and legal abortion? Ask them how do you feel about disabled people not having a safety net of social services and a guaranteed income so that they are not working beyond their abilities or when they are advised against working because of their health? Or ask them how they feel about jobs going overseas so that corporations can pay slave wages to people in other countries and then ship back goods that are inferior to what used to be produced in the United States. And another question ask them how it is that most blue states outperform most red states by almost all economic and social indicators.
G_j
(40,372 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Best shot at this is get some people into town hall meetings and out in those public meet and greet things like State Fairs. If you get someone with a big enough mouth it might make national news.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)We've got it in the bag.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)He got his money, bought some suits, and became a tool.
cali
(114,904 posts)That has exactly zip to do with his record of predicting elections- which is, quite simply, the best record of any analyst out there.
What you're trying to do couldn't be more obvious- or lamer. Try harder. This is just embarrassing- for YOU.
Yikers. Sad.
Btw, from TPM:
Roger Pielke Jr. said Monday that he left FiveThirtyEight, ending a short-lived but turbulent stint with the site launched by Nate Silver earlier this year.
Pielke, a professor of environmental studies at the University of Colorado, told Discover Magazine that after editors at the site "showed some reluctance" in publishing his work, he told FiveThirtyEight managing editor Mike Wilson that "it was probably best that we part ways."
Pielke's time at FiveThirtyEight got off to a stormy start shortly after the site went live in March. In his first piece for the site, Pielke wrote that the increased cost of natural disasters is not the result of climate change a premise that was heavily criticized.
Pielke wrote a follow-up to that article two days later, and Silver commissioned a rebuttal the following week. But Pielke only wrote three more pieces for the site after that, all of which focused on sports and not climate.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/roger-pielke-jr-fivethirtyeight-climate
Wow. He was there for all of 3 months and Silver publshed a rebuttal.
at your sad little attempt to discredit Silver. To say you FAIL, is a wild understatement. Care to talk about Silver's record of election predictions?
Of course not.
You can't.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Do you take Rasmussen numbers seriously?
cali
(114,904 posts)Are you suggesting that I'm right wing, or that Silver is, or who? Do explain your post.
Rasmussen has what to do with Silver?
YOU calling anyone else right wing?
That's a laugh.
D'oh!
Silver, not you!
And the point is that numbers from right-wing sources are frequently pulled out of someone's a$$.
edit:
That's a laugh.
I consider myself to be kind of middle-of-the-road around here.
cali
(114,904 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)high point for humor today. I suggest we all chip in and buy Nate one of these -
http://www.dealsdirect.com.au/pro-lift-garage-mechanic-car-z-creeper-sliding-rolling-board/ because he will be constantly thrown under/pulled out from under the bus, depending on what he predicts every day.
cali
(114,904 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)We are going to need a bigger bus.
treestar
(82,383 posts)and all the damn polls!
It's too early . STFU!!!!
cali
(114,904 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)It's too early!!!!!!
MrBig
(640 posts)He analyzes data from past elections and uses it to make predictions about future events. Given Clinton just declared her candidacy yesterday, it is a very timely article.
Quite honestly - it's a very well written article with factual support for what he predicts is likely to happen.
I find it humorous yet predictable that when he predicts something that goes against one's personal wishes, people will do anything they can do discredit him.