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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFact or Fiction: Does the Hatch-Wyden-Obama Trade Promotion Authority Bill Protect U.S. Sovereignty
The Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) bill that was released last week contains a fascinating Section 8 on Sovereignty. The section appears intended to make all trade agreements with the U.S. not binding to the extent that they contradict any provision of U.S. law, current or future. If valid, the section would go a long way to calming fears in this country that new trade agreements, like the old ones, could be used by corporations or other countries to force the U.S. to alter domestic regulations. (See, for example, analysis on how the leaked TPP text could enable challenges to intellectual property limitations and exceptions like the U.S. fair use doctrine).
Here, I analyze Section 8s promise using The Washington Posts Fact or Fiction Pinocchio scale. For containing numerous blatantly misleading characterizations of international law, including outright falsehoods concerning the ability of U.S. Congress to determine when international law binds, I give the provision four Pinocchios.
Section 8 of the TPA bill states:
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Lets take these in order. Section (a) is a repetition of the language in every free trade implementation act that has passed congress since NAFTA. In technical detail, it is mostly literally true. International trade agreements, like most international treaties in the U.S., are non-self-executing, meaning that they only become judicially cognizable as U.S. law through domestic legislation implementing their mandates. Section (a) can be seen as articulating that standard. Elsewhere, the bill makes clear that the President has to identify through draft implementing legislation all the changes in US law required by the treaty. Any changes in law required by the treaty that are not adopted by the Congress in that implementing legislation will have no effect on U.S. law.
It is not true, however, that a failure of Congress to implement changes a treaty requires renders those provisions has having no effect whatsoever. The non-implemented provisions will still bind the U.S. under international law. Some other party of the treaty, or a private investor under investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS), could (depending on the enforcement language in the treaty) sue the U.S. for damages or to authorize trade sanctions. That dispute settlement process would bind the U.S. government and have effect even though it would not change U.S. law.
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Sean Flynn, Associate Director of American University Washington College of Law, Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property
cali
(114,904 posts)enough
(13,259 posts)Snip>
Section (c) contains the biggest whopper. There, the bill claims to be able to render findings by dispute settlement panels with no binding effect on the law or the Government of the U.S. The key here is that international law, not U.S. law, decides the extent to which international treaties bind and the scope of remedies available. If a treaty has a dispute resolution process, then the nature of how that process binds an individual country is determined by the treaty, including any reservations made in the treaty itself, not by local trade authorization legislation.
Thus, an international tribunal, following the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties and the scope of customary international law, would ask: (1) Is there a treaty, i.e., did the president sign and Congress ratify? (Yes, yes.), and (2) Does the treaty have a reservation carving out the U.S. from dispute resolution? (No.) Then the dispute resolution process binds. That is it. They dont have to look at the local legislation giving the president negotiating authority because, under international law, the president has the authority to bind the United States even where he exceeds his domestic constitutional authority.
Technically, clauses (a) and (b), and the statement in (c) about settlement panels binding the law of the U.S., can be true only if the concern is cabined to whether international law can directly change a U.S. statute by being self-executing. But the clear intent of the provision is to suggest that the legislation can render trade agreements that conflict with our laws as being without effect, including not binding the U.S. government.
This the statute cannot do. For stating that the legislation can prevent trade agreements from binding the U.S. in areas where the statute can have no such effect, Section 8 of the TPA gets a Four Pinocchio rating from me. Members of Congress and the public concerned about the ability of trade tribunals to find our domestic laws and regulations in violation of vague limits on regulatory authority should find little comfort in the Sovereignty section of the TPA bill.
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I wish everyone here would read this.
btw, that's a great site for analysis by those with expertise.
pampango
(24,692 posts)in an agreement such as the TPP.
If anything good is to come from the TPP, many liberals (not conservatives of course) want high "enforceable standards" on labor rights and the environment. The presence of 'high standards' won't mean much if there is no effective enforcement mechanism.
But the presence of effective enforcement mechanisms requires the existence of a way to force national governments to do something they were not going to do otherwise, in essence limiting their 'national sovereignty'.
cali
(114,904 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)By far the best analysis of the tpa
Scuba
(53,475 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Congress critters and their staff either understand no better than average Americans and/or they are looking to create illusions of protections from ISDS to make it salable.
That's not reassuring.
cali
(114,904 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'm flabbergasted that my own senator supports this. He's been a good senator the last 18 years, but this is a bridge he can not cross without consequences.
cali
(114,904 posts)It is disappointing. Ironically, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually votes against the tpp if the tpa passes and it comes up for a vote.
I agree re the analysis. It's a very good site for analysis of these issues. I've been following it for a while now.
Wyden and Merkley
Since Merkley got elected in 2008, I have felt Oregon has great representation in the Senate. Now I'm beginning to think that is not so true.
cali
(114,904 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)that this new version of the tpa fixes the tpp and future trade agreements
fasttense
(17,301 posts)I don't know which is worse, the round about legalese language of the "agreement" itself or trying to explain the language in the "agreement".
A wise man once told me that if a document is difficult to understand, and needs pages and pages to explain itself, then it is hiding something.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)the daylight strikes the cockroaches and they scatter around mindlessly.
It's a bad deal, period. If it can fall apart with just a glint of daylight, there is no way in hell it needs to be enacted.
cali
(114,904 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)What's telling is you posted this on Wednesday, yet none of the supporters of the trade agreements have chimed in. I wonder why.
cali
(114,904 posts)And read, and it sharply contradicts President Obama's claims.